Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

Yes, they will replace it.

On 14 Jan 2007 16:33:37 -0800, "bspear78" <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
>was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
>will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
>under the recall notice??

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bspear78 writes:

> I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
> was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
> will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
> under the recall notice??

They should, but they typically won't.

If you mean the recall that followed an EPA lawsuit, which extended the
warranty to 120K/12 years, the local dealer wouldn't honor it for my
1997 TJ when the catalytic converter failed just like the EPA said.
The dealer can easily look up your VIN on the Daimler-Chrysler Web site
and can tell you the recall history and pending recalls on your vehicle.

In my case the recall didn't get recorded on the corporate records and
Web site (even though I had the recalled defect), and that was that as
far as the dealers are concerned.

In reading the EPA settlement, it sounds like it only covered an absurd
portion of the TJs having the problem, such as the 2.5L engine but not the
4.0L engine. My impression was that DC had swindled the EPA (and us) out
of DC taking responsibility for many (if not most) actual cases.

But with some careful shopping, you're not out a huge amount of money:

The Magnaflow 23227 kit consists of the converter and the upstream pipe
that mates to the manifold. Both stainless. All for $93 shipped on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170055751402

The installation is a bit of a chore with the skid plate and all, but
if you're not a do-it-yourselfer, your labor bill should come in between
$100 to $200.

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bspear78 writes:

> I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
> was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
> will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
> under the recall notice??

They should, but they typically won't.

If you mean the recall that followed an EPA lawsuit, which extended the
warranty to 120K/12 years, the local dealer wouldn't honor it for my
1997 TJ when the catalytic converter failed just like the EPA said.
The dealer can easily look up your VIN on the Daimler-Chrysler Web site
and can tell you the recall history and pending recalls on your vehicle.

In my case the recall didn't get recorded on the corporate records and
Web site (even though I had the recalled defect), and that was that as
far as the dealers are concerned.

In reading the EPA settlement, it sounds like it only covered an absurd
portion of the TJs having the problem, such as the 2.5L engine but not the
4.0L engine. My impression was that DC had swindled the EPA (and us) out
of DC taking responsibility for many (if not most) actual cases.

But with some careful shopping, you're not out a huge amount of money:

The Magnaflow 23227 kit consists of the converter and the upstream pipe
that mates to the manifold. Both stainless. All for $93 shipped on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170055751402

The installation is a bit of a chore with the skid plate and all, but
if you're not a do-it-yourselfer, your labor bill should come in between
$100 to $200.

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bspear78 writes:

> I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
> was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
> will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
> under the recall notice??

They should, but they typically won't.

If you mean the recall that followed an EPA lawsuit, which extended the
warranty to 120K/12 years, the local dealer wouldn't honor it for my
1997 TJ when the catalytic converter failed just like the EPA said.
The dealer can easily look up your VIN on the Daimler-Chrysler Web site
and can tell you the recall history and pending recalls on your vehicle.

In my case the recall didn't get recorded on the corporate records and
Web site (even though I had the recalled defect), and that was that as
far as the dealers are concerned.

In reading the EPA settlement, it sounds like it only covered an absurd
portion of the TJs having the problem, such as the 2.5L engine but not the
4.0L engine. My impression was that DC had swindled the EPA (and us) out
of DC taking responsibility for many (if not most) actual cases.

But with some careful shopping, you're not out a huge amount of money:

The Magnaflow 23227 kit consists of the converter and the upstream pipe
that mates to the manifold. Both stainless. All for $93 shipped on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170055751402

The installation is a bit of a chore with the skid plate and all, but
if you're not a do-it-yourselfer, your labor bill should come in between
$100 to $200.

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bspear78 writes:

> I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
> was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
> will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
> under the recall notice??

They should, but they typically won't.

If you mean the recall that followed an EPA lawsuit, which extended the
warranty to 120K/12 years, the local dealer wouldn't honor it for my
1997 TJ when the catalytic converter failed just like the EPA said.
The dealer can easily look up your VIN on the Daimler-Chrysler Web site
and can tell you the recall history and pending recalls on your vehicle.

In my case the recall didn't get recorded on the corporate records and
Web site (even though I had the recalled defect), and that was that as
far as the dealers are concerned.

In reading the EPA settlement, it sounds like it only covered an absurd
portion of the TJs having the problem, such as the 2.5L engine but not the
4.0L engine. My impression was that DC had swindled the EPA (and us) out
of DC taking responsibility for many (if not most) actual cases.

But with some careful shopping, you're not out a huge amount of money:

The Magnaflow 23227 kit consists of the converter and the upstream pipe
that mates to the manifold. Both stainless. All for $93 shipped on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=170055751402

The installation is a bit of a chore with the skid plate and all, but
if you're not a do-it-yourselfer, your labor bill should come in between
$100 to $200.

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:34:25 -0500, Jeffrey DeWitt
> <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I got a recall notice for my 96 Cherokee, they wanted to flash the
>>computer and would replace the cat if it was rattling. The problem was
>>that the computer wouldn't pick up a failing cat.
>>
>>Well my cat DID rattle, but it stopped about 200,000 miles ago, and I
>>figured the stuff had fallen out of it, but the check engine light never
>>came on.
>>
>>OK, so I probably have a bad cat and the computer didn't know it. If
>>I'd taken it into the dealer they would have "fixed" the computer but
>>would not have replaced the cat because it didn't rattle. So I would
>>have driven in the dealership in a good, healthy Jeep and driven out
>>with the check engine light on.
>>
>>Needless to say I did not take it in!
>
>
> Well that was pretty smart.
>
> Had you read the recall, you would know that the warranty on the cat
> would be extended to 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the
> recall was performed.

I DID read the recall, and talked to the service managers at two
different dealerships. If the cat was rattling WHEN THE JEEP WAS
BROUGHT IN they would replace it, if it doesn't rattle they wouldn't
replace it. Doesn't matter if it worked or not, the only question was
if it rattled.

>
>
>>I hope you didn't get caught in that, if you did you probably need a new
>>cat, if they really did plug the downstream O2 sensor back in.
>
>
> Yeah, you sure wouldn't want to get caught in getting a free cat
> converter...

If they would have replaced the cat for no charge I would have brought
the Jeep in, no telling what they would have wanted to charge me to get
my Jeep back working no better than it already was.

Jeff DeWitt
>
>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>bspear78 wrote:
>>
>>>I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
>>>was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
>>>will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
>>>under the recall notice??
>>>

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:34:25 -0500, Jeffrey DeWitt
> <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I got a recall notice for my 96 Cherokee, they wanted to flash the
>>computer and would replace the cat if it was rattling. The problem was
>>that the computer wouldn't pick up a failing cat.
>>
>>Well my cat DID rattle, but it stopped about 200,000 miles ago, and I
>>figured the stuff had fallen out of it, but the check engine light never
>>came on.
>>
>>OK, so I probably have a bad cat and the computer didn't know it. If
>>I'd taken it into the dealer they would have "fixed" the computer but
>>would not have replaced the cat because it didn't rattle. So I would
>>have driven in the dealership in a good, healthy Jeep and driven out
>>with the check engine light on.
>>
>>Needless to say I did not take it in!
>
>
> Well that was pretty smart.
>
> Had you read the recall, you would know that the warranty on the cat
> would be extended to 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the
> recall was performed.

I DID read the recall, and talked to the service managers at two
different dealerships. If the cat was rattling WHEN THE JEEP WAS
BROUGHT IN they would replace it, if it doesn't rattle they wouldn't
replace it. Doesn't matter if it worked or not, the only question was
if it rattled.

>
>
>>I hope you didn't get caught in that, if you did you probably need a new
>>cat, if they really did plug the downstream O2 sensor back in.
>
>
> Yeah, you sure wouldn't want to get caught in getting a free cat
> converter...

If they would have replaced the cat for no charge I would have brought
the Jeep in, no telling what they would have wanted to charge me to get
my Jeep back working no better than it already was.

Jeff DeWitt
>
>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>bspear78 wrote:
>>
>>>I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
>>>was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
>>>will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
>>>under the recall notice??
>>>

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:34:25 -0500, Jeffrey DeWitt
> <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I got a recall notice for my 96 Cherokee, they wanted to flash the
>>computer and would replace the cat if it was rattling. The problem was
>>that the computer wouldn't pick up a failing cat.
>>
>>Well my cat DID rattle, but it stopped about 200,000 miles ago, and I
>>figured the stuff had fallen out of it, but the check engine light never
>>came on.
>>
>>OK, so I probably have a bad cat and the computer didn't know it. If
>>I'd taken it into the dealer they would have "fixed" the computer but
>>would not have replaced the cat because it didn't rattle. So I would
>>have driven in the dealership in a good, healthy Jeep and driven out
>>with the check engine light on.
>>
>>Needless to say I did not take it in!
>
>
> Well that was pretty smart.
>
> Had you read the recall, you would know that the warranty on the cat
> would be extended to 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the
> recall was performed.

I DID read the recall, and talked to the service managers at two
different dealerships. If the cat was rattling WHEN THE JEEP WAS
BROUGHT IN they would replace it, if it doesn't rattle they wouldn't
replace it. Doesn't matter if it worked or not, the only question was
if it rattled.

>
>
>>I hope you didn't get caught in that, if you did you probably need a new
>>cat, if they really did plug the downstream O2 sensor back in.
>
>
> Yeah, you sure wouldn't want to get caught in getting a free cat
> converter...

If they would have replaced the cat for no charge I would have brought
the Jeep in, no telling what they would have wanted to charge me to get
my Jeep back working no better than it already was.

Jeff DeWitt
>
>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>bspear78 wrote:
>>
>>>I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
>>>was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
>>>will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
>>>under the recall notice??
>>>

Re: catalytic converter recall otice 1997 jeep wrangler
 

bllsht wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:34:25 -0500, Jeffrey DeWitt
> <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I got a recall notice for my 96 Cherokee, they wanted to flash the
>>computer and would replace the cat if it was rattling. The problem was
>>that the computer wouldn't pick up a failing cat.
>>
>>Well my cat DID rattle, but it stopped about 200,000 miles ago, and I
>>figured the stuff had fallen out of it, but the check engine light never
>>came on.
>>
>>OK, so I probably have a bad cat and the computer didn't know it. If
>>I'd taken it into the dealer they would have "fixed" the computer but
>>would not have replaced the cat because it didn't rattle. So I would
>>have driven in the dealership in a good, healthy Jeep and driven out
>>with the check engine light on.
>>
>>Needless to say I did not take it in!
>
>
> Well that was pretty smart.
>
> Had you read the recall, you would know that the warranty on the cat
> would be extended to 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the
> recall was performed.

I DID read the recall, and talked to the service managers at two
different dealerships. If the cat was rattling WHEN THE JEEP WAS
BROUGHT IN they would replace it, if it doesn't rattle they wouldn't
replace it. Doesn't matter if it worked or not, the only question was
if it rattled.

>
>
>>I hope you didn't get caught in that, if you did you probably need a new
>>cat, if they really did plug the downstream O2 sensor back in.
>
>
> Yeah, you sure wouldn't want to get caught in getting a free cat
> converter...

If they would have replaced the cat for no charge I would have brought
the Jeep in, no telling what they would have wanted to charge me to get
my Jeep back working no better than it already was.

Jeff DeWitt
>
>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>bspear78 wrote:
>>
>>>I brought my 97 wrangler TJ for a cat recall notice the dealer said it
>>>was ok, but now I am gettin a check engine light indicating a bad cat.
>>>will the dealer replace my cat. converter for me?? do they have to
>>>under the recall notice??
>>>