Mike Romain

That sounds about right too Earle...

If the computer don't tell them, they are lost these days...

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
> computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> average mechanic having anything like a scan tool. "Duh, the scan tool
> doesn't say anything, so let's try replacing the CPS. Hmm, that didn't do
> anything, how about the TPS? Maybe this guy needs a set of plugs or
> wires..."
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F610819.79F89D34@sympatico.ca...
> > Mechanics are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the average
> > person having a scan tool!!!
> > ;-)
> >
> > Likely the catalyst won't be ready until it gets 'really' hot, just a
> > guess.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a '97 grand cherokee, inline 6.
> > >
> > > I recently got a actron scan tool! (Yippee! I think...) While
> checking
> > > for stored codes, I found that when listing the IM monitors, the
> Catalyst
> > > monitor comes back as 'not ready.' The others are either 'ready' or
> 'not
> > > applicable.' Unfortunately, the handbook gives very little info about
> the
> > > monitors. From the sound of it, I would guess this to be related to
> > > monitoring the O2 sensors, but I have had no error codes in the computer
> > > that would indicate a problem with them. (Or could it be no error codes
> > > because it is not monitoring them?) I have allowed the engine to reach
> full
> > > operating temperature, and driven it for about 10 to 15 minutes, and
> still
> > > get the 'not ready.'
> > > Any ideas, or has anyone had this problem before?
> > > thanks...
> > >
> > > cal

Joe

"People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
average mechanic having anything like a scan tool."

Those same people "are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
average" person having a computer at home.

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bjr26u$md9ci$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
> computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> average mechanic having anything like a scan tool. "Duh, the scan tool
> doesn't say anything, so let's try replacing the CPS. Hmm, that didn't do
> anything, how about the TPS? Maybe this guy needs a set of plugs or
> wires..."
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F610819.79F89D34@sympatico.ca...
> > Mechanics are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the average
> > person having a scan tool!!!
> > ;-)
> >
> > Likely the catalyst won't be ready until it gets 'really' hot, just a
> > guess.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a '97 grand cherokee, inline 6.
> > >
> > > I recently got a actron scan tool! (Yippee! I think...) While
> checking
> > > for stored codes, I found that when listing the IM monitors, the
> Catalyst
> > > monitor comes back as 'not ready.' The others are either 'ready' or
> 'not
> > > applicable.' Unfortunately, the handbook gives very little info about
> the
> > > monitors. From the sound of it, I would guess this to be related to
> > > monitoring the O2 sensors, but I have had no error codes in the
computer
> > > that would indicate a problem with them. (Or could it be no error
codes
> > > because it is not monitoring them?) I have allowed the engine to
reach
> full
> > > operating temperature, and driven it for about 10 to 15 minutes, and
> still
> > > get the 'not ready.'
> > > Any ideas, or has anyone had this problem before?
> > > thanks...
> > >
> > > cal
>
>

Joe

"People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
average mechanic having anything like a scan tool."

Those same people "are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
average" person having a computer at home.

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bjr26u$md9ci$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
> computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> average mechanic having anything like a scan tool. "Duh, the scan tool
> doesn't say anything, so let's try replacing the CPS. Hmm, that didn't do
> anything, how about the TPS? Maybe this guy needs a set of plugs or
> wires..."
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F610819.79F89D34@sympatico.ca...
> > Mechanics are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the average
> > person having a scan tool!!!
> > ;-)
> >
> > Likely the catalyst won't be ready until it gets 'really' hot, just a
> > guess.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Cal wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a '97 grand cherokee, inline 6.
> > >
> > > I recently got a actron scan tool! (Yippee! I think...) While
> checking
> > > for stored codes, I found that when listing the IM monitors, the
> Catalyst
> > > monitor comes back as 'not ready.' The others are either 'ready' or
> 'not
> > > applicable.' Unfortunately, the handbook gives very little info about
> the
> > > monitors. From the sound of it, I would guess this to be related to
> > > monitoring the O2 sensors, but I have had no error codes in the
computer
> > > that would indicate a problem with them. (Or could it be no error
codes
> > > because it is not monitoring them?) I have allowed the engine to
reach
> full
> > > operating temperature, and driven it for about 10 to 15 minutes, and
> still
> > > get the 'not ready.'
> > > Any ideas, or has anyone had this problem before?
> > > thanks...
> > >
> > > cal
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> Those same people "are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> average" person having a computer at home.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Joe wrote:
>
> Those same people "are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> average" person having a computer at home.

Dave Milne

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it :-)

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:qma8b.1304$o71.90@news2.central.***.net...
: The Catalyst monitor is otherwise known as a down-stream O2 sensor.
: If you only have one O2 sensor what do you think the response would be?
:
: McCoy: "I think it's dead Jim."
:
: --
: DougW

Dave Milne

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it :-)

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:qma8b.1304$o71.90@news2.central.***.net...
: The Catalyst monitor is otherwise known as a down-stream O2 sensor.
: If you only have one O2 sensor what do you think the response would be?
:
: McCoy: "I think it's dead Jim."
:
: --
: DougW

Will Honea

That's painfully obvious. It's been a long time since I found a
dealer who had anything but "Service Technicians" - not a mechanic in
sight!

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:34:50 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> That sounds about right too Earle...
>
> If the computer don't tell them, they are lost these days...
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
> > computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> > average mechanic having anything like a scan tool. "Duh, the scan tool
> > doesn't say anything, so let's try replacing the CPS. Hmm, that didn't do
> > anything, how about the TPS? Maybe this guy needs a set of plugs or
> > wires..."
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F610819.79F89D34@sympatico.ca...
> > > Mechanics are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the average
> > > person having a scan tool!!!
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Likely the catalyst won't be ready until it gets 'really' hot, just a
> > > guess.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Cal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a '97 grand cherokee, inline 6.
> > > >
> > > > I recently got a actron scan tool! (Yippee! I think...) While
> > checking
> > > > for stored codes, I found that when listing the IM monitors, the
> > Catalyst
> > > > monitor comes back as 'not ready.' The others are either 'ready' or
> > 'not
> > > > applicable.' Unfortunately, the handbook gives very little info about
> > the
> > > > monitors. From the sound of it, I would guess this to be related to
> > > > monitoring the O2 sensors, but I have had no error codes in the computer
> > > > that would indicate a problem with them. (Or could it be no error codes
> > > > because it is not monitoring them?) I have allowed the engine to reach
> > full
> > > > operating temperature, and driven it for about 10 to 15 minutes, and
> > still
> > > > get the 'not ready.'
> > > > Any ideas, or has anyone had this problem before?
> > > > thanks...
> > > >
> > > > cal


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea

That's painfully obvious. It's been a long time since I found a
dealer who had anything but "Service Technicians" - not a mechanic in
sight!

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:34:50 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> That sounds about right too Earle...
>
> If the computer don't tell them, they are lost these days...
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in the
> > computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> > average mechanic having anything like a scan tool. "Duh, the scan tool
> > doesn't say anything, so let's try replacing the CPS. Hmm, that didn't do
> > anything, how about the TPS? Maybe this guy needs a set of plugs or
> > wires..."
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F610819.79F89D34@sympatico.ca...
> > > Mechanics are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the average
> > > person having a scan tool!!!
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Likely the catalyst won't be ready until it gets 'really' hot, just a
> > > guess.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Cal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a '97 grand cherokee, inline 6.
> > > >
> > > > I recently got a actron scan tool! (Yippee! I think...) While
> > checking
> > > > for stored codes, I found that when listing the IM monitors, the
> > Catalyst
> > > > monitor comes back as 'not ready.' The others are either 'ready' or
> > 'not
> > > > applicable.' Unfortunately, the handbook gives very little info about
> > the
> > > > monitors. From the sound of it, I would guess this to be related to
> > > > monitoring the O2 sensors, but I have had no error codes in the computer
> > > > that would indicate a problem with them. (Or could it be no error codes
> > > > because it is not monitoring them?) I have allowed the engine to reach
> > full
> > > > operating temperature, and driven it for about 10 to 15 minutes, and
> > still
> > > > get the 'not ready.'
> > > > Any ideas, or has anyone had this problem before?
> > > > thanks...
> > > >
> > > > cal


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Mike Romain

We used to have a 'really' good 'mechanic' up at my local Canadian Tire.

Man if a CJ or YJ with a 258 failed emissions, he would suggest
something and he was spot on 'every' freaking time! And we were
bringing ones in that had the 'Nutter' done or no computer running
things...

The dude was too damn good, some garage stole him away! Canadian Tire
won't tell me where he went! Grrr...

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> and mechanics used to be called engineers, a word which came from old French
> from ancient Greek meaning someone who is knowledgeable and skilful.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-jnE9Zpg085HR@anon.none.net...
> : That's painfully obvious. It's been a long time since I found a
> : dealer who had anything but "Service Technicians" - not a mechanic in
> : sight!
> :
> : On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:34:50 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> : wrote:
> :
> : > That sounds about right too Earle...
> : >
> : > If the computer don't tell them, they are lost these days...
> : >
> : > Mike
> : >
> : > Earle Horton wrote:
> : > >
> : > > People who have been to school for electrical engineering or worked in
> the
> : > > computer industry are laughing themselves silly with the thought of
> the
> : > > average mechanic having anything like a scan tool. "Duh, the scan
> tool
> : > > doesn't say anything, so let's try replacing the CPS. Hmm, that
> didn't do
> : > > anything, how about the TPS? Maybe this guy needs a set of plugs or
> : > > wires..."
> : > >
> : > > Earle
> : > >
> : > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> : > > news:3F610819.79F89D34@sympatico.ca...
> : > > > Mechanics are laughing themselves silly with the thought of the
> average
> : > > > person having a scan tool!!!
> : > > > ;-)
> : > > >
> : > > > Likely the catalyst won't be ready until it gets 'really' hot, just
> a
> : > > > guess.
> : > > >
> : > > > Mike
> : > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> : > > >
> : > > > Cal wrote:
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I have a '97 grand cherokee, inline 6.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I recently got a actron scan tool! (Yippee! I think...) While
> : > > checking
> : > > > > for stored codes, I found that when listing the IM monitors, the
> : > > Catalyst
> : > > > > monitor comes back as 'not ready.' The others are either 'ready'
> or
> : > > 'not
> : > > > > applicable.' Unfortunately, the handbook gives very little info
> about
> : > > the
> : > > > > monitors. From the sound of it, I would guess this to be related
> to
> : > > > > monitoring the O2 sensors, but I have had no error codes in the
> computer
> : > > > > that would indicate a problem with them. (Or could it be no error
> codes
> : > > > > because it is not monitoring them?) I have allowed the engine to
> reach
> : > > full
> : > > > > operating temperature, and driven it for about 10 to 15 minutes,
> and
> : > > still
> : > > > > get the 'not ready.'
> : > > > > Any ideas, or has anyone had this problem before?
> : > > > > thanks...
> : > > > >
> : > > > > cal
> :
> :
> : --
> : Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>