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Can't loose that ping
Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs,
even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I didn't want to be forced into it. booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a
sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs, > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > didn't want to be forced into it. > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a
sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs, > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > didn't want to be forced into it. > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a
sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs, > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > didn't want to be forced into it. > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover.
I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something I didn't really want to do but no way around it. bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs, > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover.
I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something I didn't really want to do but no way around it. bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs, > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover.
I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something I didn't really want to do but no way around it. bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark plugs, > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys all > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next step > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
there's a complete writeup on it here:
http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bmceq1$l4nau$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > plugs, > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > all > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > step > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > booo hsssss > > |
Re: Can't loose that ping
there's a complete writeup on it here:
http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bmceq1$l4nau$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > plugs, > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > all > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > step > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > booo hsssss > > |
Re: Can't loose that ping
there's a complete writeup on it here:
http://monsterslayer.com/jeep/40Head/40Head.htm "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message news:bmceq1$l4nau$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de... > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > plugs, > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > all > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > step > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > booo hsssss > > |
Re: Can't loose that ping
With that long leg, you may still have too much compression. Buy
the programing tool. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
With that long leg, you may still have too much compression. Buy
the programing tool. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
With that long leg, you may still have too much compression. Buy
the programing tool. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
What is your compression?
Is your distributor maybe worn so it advances too far or too easy? Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for reference. Maybe someone knows for sure what the top end for advance is for sure? If it tops too fast you can get a ping. Vacuum leak? Maybe try a spray of carb cleaner along the manifold gasket and TB base plate to see if the idle bumps. Same for vacuum lines. What happens if you pump the brake pedal fast a few times? Something simple is likely to pop up I am thinking. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > plugs, > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > all > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > step > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
What is your compression?
Is your distributor maybe worn so it advances too far or too easy? Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for reference. Maybe someone knows for sure what the top end for advance is for sure? If it tops too fast you can get a ping. Vacuum leak? Maybe try a spray of carb cleaner along the manifold gasket and TB base plate to see if the idle bumps. Same for vacuum lines. What happens if you pump the brake pedal fast a few times? Something simple is likely to pop up I am thinking. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > plugs, > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > all > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > step > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
What is your compression?
Is your distributor maybe worn so it advances too far or too easy? Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for reference. Maybe someone knows for sure what the top end for advance is for sure? If it tops too fast you can get a ping. Vacuum leak? Maybe try a spray of carb cleaner along the manifold gasket and TB base plate to see if the idle bumps. Same for vacuum lines. What happens if you pump the brake pedal fast a few times? Something simple is likely to pop up I am thinking. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > bill > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > plugs, > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > all > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > step > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
What programming tool are you speaking about?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89C41F.592846E4@cox.net... > With that long leg, you may still have too much compression. Buy > the programing tool. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
What programming tool are you speaking about?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89C41F.592846E4@cox.net... > With that long leg, you may still have too much compression. Buy > the programing tool. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
What programming tool are you speaking about?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89C41F.592846E4@cox.net... > With that long leg, you may still have too much compression. Buy > the programing tool. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Hi Mike,
So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression wouldn't make it ping would it? How do you determine if the distributor is worn? It looked good physically when I put it in. What does it mean by the term "advance"? What's the opposite of advance? What is the negative effect of pumping the brake pedel fast? What should be the desired effect when pumping the brake pedel fast? > Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe > check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through > the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for > reference. I'm not clear on this. Is this checked with a timing light? Thanks, Bill "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F89C5E6.BD58CE20@sympatico.ca... > What is your compression? > > Is your distributor maybe worn so it advances too far or too easy? > > Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe > check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through > the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for > reference. > > Maybe someone knows for sure what the top end for advance is for sure? > If it tops too fast you can get a ping. > > Vacuum leak? Maybe try a spray of carb cleaner along the manifold > gasket and TB base plate to see if the idle bumps. Same for vacuum > lines. > > What happens if you pump the brake pedal fast a few times? > > Something simple is likely to pop up I am thinking. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > > > bill > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > > plugs, > > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > > all > > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > > step > > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Hi Mike,
So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression wouldn't make it ping would it? How do you determine if the distributor is worn? It looked good physically when I put it in. What does it mean by the term "advance"? What's the opposite of advance? What is the negative effect of pumping the brake pedel fast? What should be the desired effect when pumping the brake pedel fast? > Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe > check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through > the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for > reference. I'm not clear on this. Is this checked with a timing light? Thanks, Bill "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F89C5E6.BD58CE20@sympatico.ca... > What is your compression? > > Is your distributor maybe worn so it advances too far or too easy? > > Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe > check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through > the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for > reference. > > Maybe someone knows for sure what the top end for advance is for sure? > If it tops too fast you can get a ping. > > Vacuum leak? Maybe try a spray of carb cleaner along the manifold > gasket and TB base plate to see if the idle bumps. Same for vacuum > lines. > > What happens if you pump the brake pedal fast a few times? > > Something simple is likely to pop up I am thinking. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > > > bill > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > > plugs, > > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > > all > > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > > step > > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Hi Mike,
So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression wouldn't make it ping would it? How do you determine if the distributor is worn? It looked good physically when I put it in. What does it mean by the term "advance"? What's the opposite of advance? What is the negative effect of pumping the brake pedel fast? What should be the desired effect when pumping the brake pedel fast? > Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe > check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through > the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for > reference. I'm not clear on this. Is this checked with a timing light? Thanks, Bill "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F89C5E6.BD58CE20@sympatico.ca... > What is your compression? > > Is your distributor maybe worn so it advances too far or too easy? > > Someone told me that the advance should top out at 2300 rpm. Maybe > check that on yours by marking the slot white so you can see it through > the fan blades or mark a spot in a measured static advance for > reference. > > Maybe someone knows for sure what the top end for advance is for sure? > If it tops too fast you can get a ping. > > Vacuum leak? Maybe try a spray of carb cleaner along the manifold > gasket and TB base plate to see if the idle bumps. Same for vacuum > lines. > > What happens if you pump the brake pedal fast a few times? > > Something simple is likely to pop up I am thinking. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > yeah, I have to get a 4.0L manifold. I have the head and the valve cover. > > I need the manifold and a kit for the head bolts (7/16 to 1/2 inch). > > > > shouldn't be too much more in parts. mostly labor at this point. something > > I didn't really want to do but no way around it. > > > > bill > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:3F89B926.EED5AABD@cox.net... > > > But, your manifold won't fit the 4.0 litre head. Maybe, put a > > > sandwich gasket in and loose a compression. > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > > > > > Well I've tried retarding the timing, upping the octane, cooler spark > > plugs, > > > > even (at the suggestion of JeepsRUs) tried one of those tornado thingys > > all > > > > which didn't work. Still have pinging. Luckily, JeepsRUs refunded the > > > > 57.00 for the tornado thing when it didn't work. So I guess the next > > step > > > > is to put the 4.0L head on the bugger. This I had planned anyway but I > > > > didn't want to be forced into it. > > > > > > > > booo hsssss |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Hi Bill,
The auto computer programer is virtually a must for every Hot Rodder with a electronic injection. In your case it would be the DRB-II, written about at: http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/hesco.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > What programming tool are you speaking about? |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Hi Bill,
The auto computer programer is virtually a must for every Hot Rodder with a electronic injection. In your case it would be the DRB-II, written about at: http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/hesco.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > What programming tool are you speaking about? |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Hi Bill,
The auto computer programer is virtually a must for every Hot Rodder with a electronic injection. In your case it would be the DRB-II, written about at: http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/hesco.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > What programming tool are you speaking about? |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Vice versa.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression > wouldn't make it ping would it? ><snip> |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Vice versa.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression > wouldn't make it ping would it? ><snip> |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Vice versa.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression > wouldn't make it ping would it? ><snip> |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Too low compression would make it ping?
I thought ping was caused by gas igniting before the spark got to it due to compression. That's why high compression engines use higher octane. Is this right? Why would low compression make it ping? thanks, bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89CE4D.A56EC3D3@cox.net... > Vice versa. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression > > wouldn't make it ping would it? > ><snip> |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Too low compression would make it ping?
I thought ping was caused by gas igniting before the spark got to it due to compression. That's why high compression engines use higher octane. Is this right? Why would low compression make it ping? thanks, bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89CE4D.A56EC3D3@cox.net... > Vice versa. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression > > wouldn't make it ping would it? > ><snip> |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Too low compression would make it ping?
I thought ping was caused by gas igniting before the spark got to it due to compression. That's why high compression engines use higher octane. Is this right? Why would low compression make it ping? thanks, bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89CE4D.A56EC3D3@cox.net... > Vice versa. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > So if compression was an issue it would be too high? Too low of compression > > wouldn't make it ping would it? > ><snip> |
Re: Can't loose that ping
yeah, I looked for those but seem to be difficult to find and somewhat
expensive: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=43989&item =2436159222 I haven't found a single unit yet. bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89CCEC.E828DA7B@cox.net... > Hi Bill, > The auto computer programer is virtually a must for every Hot > Rodder with a electronic injection. In your case it would be the DRB-II, > written about at: http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/hesco.html > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > What programming tool are you speaking about? |
Re: Can't loose that ping
yeah, I looked for those but seem to be difficult to find and somewhat
expensive: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=43989&item =2436159222 I haven't found a single unit yet. bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89CCEC.E828DA7B@cox.net... > Hi Bill, > The auto computer programer is virtually a must for every Hot > Rodder with a electronic injection. In your case it would be the DRB-II, > written about at: http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/hesco.html > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > What programming tool are you speaking about? |
Re: Can't loose that ping
yeah, I looked for those but seem to be difficult to find and somewhat
expensive: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=43989&item =2436159222 I haven't found a single unit yet. bill "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F89CCEC.E828DA7B@cox.net... > Hi Bill, > The auto computer programer is virtually a must for every Hot > Rodder with a electronic injection. In your case it would be the DRB-II, > written about at: http://www.visi.com/~bsimon/jeep/hesco.html > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > William Oliveri wrote: > > > > What programming tool are you speaking about? |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Then you must pay a mechanic to do it, cause it ain't going happen
otherwise. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I looked for those but seem to be difficult to find and somewhat > expensive: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=43989&item > =2436159222 > > I haven't found a single unit yet. > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Then you must pay a mechanic to do it, cause it ain't going happen
otherwise. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I looked for those but seem to be difficult to find and somewhat > expensive: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=43989&item > =2436159222 > > I haven't found a single unit yet. > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Then you must pay a mechanic to do it, cause it ain't going happen
otherwise. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > yeah, I looked for those but seem to be difficult to find and somewhat > expensive: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=43989&item > =2436159222 > > I haven't found a single unit yet. > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Sorry, your "Too low of compression wouldn't make it ping would
it?" confused me. Too high a compression, may cause pre detonation, but you know you didn't have that problem before the conversion, so your problem I believe is spark knock, caused by being too far advanced for fuel configuration. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Too low compression would make it ping? > I thought ping was caused by gas igniting before the spark got to it due to > compression. That's why high compression engines use higher octane. Is > this right? Why would low compression make it ping? > > thanks, > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Sorry, your "Too low of compression wouldn't make it ping would
it?" confused me. Too high a compression, may cause pre detonation, but you know you didn't have that problem before the conversion, so your problem I believe is spark knock, caused by being too far advanced for fuel configuration. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Too low compression would make it ping? > I thought ping was caused by gas igniting before the spark got to it due to > compression. That's why high compression engines use higher octane. Is > this right? Why would low compression make it ping? > > thanks, > > bill |
Re: Can't loose that ping
Sorry, your "Too low of compression wouldn't make it ping would
it?" confused me. Too high a compression, may cause pre detonation, but you know you didn't have that problem before the conversion, so your problem I believe is spark knock, caused by being too far advanced for fuel configuration. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ William Oliveri wrote: > > Too low compression would make it ping? > I thought ping was caused by gas igniting before the spark got to it due to > compression. That's why high compression engines use higher octane. Is > this right? Why would low compression make it ping? > > thanks, > > bill |
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