Will Honea Wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com wrote:
> -
>
> I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about m
> clutch
> - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for m
> to
> change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned t
> drive
> it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuil
> kit.
> Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!-
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
> --
> Will Honea
Thanks Jeff and Will for the answers, and for the heads up abou
mis-matches ... so off to the FLAPS I go .......


--
CherokeeGirl

 

Will Honea Wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com wrote:
> -
>
> I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about m
> clutch
> - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for m
> to
> change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned t
> drive
> it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuil
> kit.
> Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!-
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
> --
> Will Honea
Thanks Jeff and Will for the answers, and for the heads up abou
mis-matches ... so off to the FLAPS I go .......


--
CherokeeGirl

 

Will Honea Wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com wrote:
> -
>
> I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about m
> clutch
> - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for m
> to
> change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned t
> drive
> it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuil
> kit.
> Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!-
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
> --
> Will Honea
Thanks Jeff and Will for the answers, and for the heads up abou
mis-matches ... so off to the FLAPS I go .......


--
CherokeeGirl

 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> <CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about my clutch
> > - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> > Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for me to
> > change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned to drive
> > it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> > cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> > cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> > is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> > Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuild kit.
> > Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> > Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replaced at
the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, and tubing
for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get any contamination
from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately. This is
not entirely a good thing.

Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if you are
broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone it just
enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
classified as a "bush repair".

Earle

 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> <CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about my clutch
> > - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> > Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for me to
> > change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned to drive
> > it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> > cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> > cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> > is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> > Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuild kit.
> > Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> > Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replaced at
the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, and tubing
for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get any contamination
from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately. This is
not entirely a good thing.

Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if you are
broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone it just
enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
classified as a "bush repair".

Earle

 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> <CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about my clutch
> > - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> > Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for me to
> > change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned to drive
> > it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> > cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> > cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> > is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> > Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuild kit.
> > Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> > Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replaced at
the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, and tubing
for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get any contamination
from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately. This is
not entirely a good thing.

Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if you are
broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone it just
enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
classified as a "bush repair".

Earle

 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> <CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about my clutch
> > - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '91 XJ.
> > Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for me to
> > change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned to drive
> > it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> > cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> > cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinking pressure
> > is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> > Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuild kit.
> > Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> > Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and match it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed to work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have no idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up the whole
> system in a hurry.
>
A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replaced at
the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, and tubing
for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get any contamination
from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately. This is
not entirely a good thing.

Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if you are
broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone it just
enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
classified as a "bush repair".

Earle

 

Earle Horton Wrote:
> "Will Honea" whonea@yahoo.com wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...-
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com wrote:
> -
>
> I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about m
> clutch
> - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '9
> XJ.
> Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for m
> to
> change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned t
> drive
> it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinkin
> pressure
> is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuil
> kit.
> Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!-
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and matc
> it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed t
> work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have n
> idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up th
> whole
> system in a hurry.
> -
> A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replace
> at
> the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, an
> tubing
> for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get an
> contamination
> from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
> complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately.
> This is
> not entirely a good thing.
>
> Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
> performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if yo
> are
> broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone i
> just
> enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
> classified as a "bush repair".
>
> Earle

Yes, I can see the logic in replacing everything at the same time.
And, yes, I can see the objection to spending that much extra $ for th
master cylinder included, but as it turns out, I'm spending the mone
anyway and had some probably avoidable head ache in the meantime. A
the saying goes, live and learn - die and forget it all. But should i
happen again, I'll go with the "and learn" part and just do the whol
thing right the 1st time.
I ordered a master cylinder. Hope to get it changed out this weekend


--
CherokeeGirl

 

Earle Horton Wrote:
> "Will Honea" whonea@yahoo.com wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...-
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com wrote:
> -
>
> I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about m
> clutch
> - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '9
> XJ.
> Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for m
> to
> change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned t
> drive
> it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinkin
> pressure
> is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuil
> kit.
> Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!-
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and matc
> it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed t
> work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have n
> idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up th
> whole
> system in a hurry.
> -
> A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replace
> at
> the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, an
> tubing
> for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get an
> contamination
> from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
> complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately.
> This is
> not entirely a good thing.
>
> Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
> performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if yo
> are
> broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone i
> just
> enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
> classified as a "bush repair".
>
> Earle

Yes, I can see the logic in replacing everything at the same time.
And, yes, I can see the objection to spending that much extra $ for th
master cylinder included, but as it turns out, I'm spending the mone
anyway and had some probably avoidable head ache in the meantime. A
the saying goes, live and learn - die and forget it all. But should i
happen again, I'll go with the "and learn" part and just do the whol
thing right the 1st time.
I ordered a master cylinder. Hope to get it changed out this weekend


--
CherokeeGirl

 

Earle Horton Wrote:
> "Will Honea" whonea@yahoo.com wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-WNfp6cWU88ov@anon.none.net...-
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:53:19 UTC CherokeeGirl
> CherokeeGirl.2bm91i@news.autobanter.com wrote:
> -
>
> I'm new to this forum, found it while searching for info about m
> clutch
> - trying to troubleshoot what's going on with it. I've got a '9
> XJ.
> Clutch doesn't always feel positive, doesn't always disengage for m
> to
> change gears. The problem is very intermittent. I've learned t
> drive
> it by double clutching when necessary. We replaced the clutch slave
> cylinder, pressure plate last year. (Yes, it's that internal slave
> cylinder) Been working fine until just lately. I'm thinkin
> pressure
> is maybe leaking back into the master cylinder.
> Will Honea posted on this forum last Mar. that he found a rebuil
> kit.
> Where can I find a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.
> Any point in the right direction will be appreciated!-
>
> A local supplier claimed to have the rebuild kit but this was a
> supplier who supplied seals and hydraulic parts to the trade shops so
> when mine got hosed by debris from a failing slave I just went and
> bought one from the above referenced local store. Not really cheap
> and watch what you get - I saw at least two different mounting
> patterns and a couple of different pushrod lengths not to mention the
> style of the connector for the line. Take the old one in and matc
> it
> up carefully. I played around after getting the new master by
> carefully taking the old one apart and cleaning it well with brake
> fluid. It had a wad of sludge that had accumulated and seemed t
> work
> just fine after cleaning that out and re-assembling but I have n
> idea
> how long it would have lasted. A failing slave will gunk up th
> whole
> system in a hurry.
> -
> A failing master too. This is why they are recommended to be replace
> at
> the same time. It used to be, that you bought the master, slave, an
> tubing
> for these Jeeps as an assembled set. Then, you didn't get an
> contamination
> from your old worn out parts into your shiny new parts. Then, people
> complained about the expense, and now you can buy them separately.
> This is
> not entirely a good thing.
>
> Sometimes, if there isn't an obvious serious leak, you can restore
> performance by completely flushing the hydraulic system. Or, if yo
> are
> broke and/or parts are not available, take the master apart, hone i
> just
> enough to get the gunk out, and put it back together. This would be
> classified as a "bush repair".
>
> Earle

Yes, I can see the logic in replacing everything at the same time.
And, yes, I can see the objection to spending that much extra $ for th
master cylinder included, but as it turns out, I'm spending the mone
anyway and had some probably avoidable head ache in the meantime. A
the saying goes, live and learn - die and forget it all. But should i
happen again, I'll go with the "and learn" part and just do the whol
thing right the 1st time.
I ordered a master cylinder. Hope to get it changed out this weekend


--
CherokeeGirl