California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
09-20-2006, 11:32 PM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
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"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>> the
>> American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
> manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
> though!?
>
> J.
>
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>> the
>> American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
> manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
> though!?
>
> J.
>
09-20-2006, 11:32 PM
#52
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
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"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>> the
>> American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
> manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
> though!?
>
> J.
>
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>> the
>> American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
> manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
> though!?
>
> J.
>
09-21-2006, 03:13 AM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew about
their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I bet he's running for governor.
>
> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>
> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
> standards set by the state.
>
> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
> I bet he's running for governor.
>
> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>
> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
> standards set by the state.
>
> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
09-21-2006, 03:13 AM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew about
their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
> I bet he's running for governor.
>
> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>
> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
> standards set by the state.
>
> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
> I bet he's running for governor.
>
> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>
> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
> standards set by the state.
>
> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
09-21-2006, 03:13 AM
#55
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew about
their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
> I bet he's running for governor.
>
> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>
> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
> standards set by the state.
>
> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
> I bet he's running for governor.
>
> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>
> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
> standards set by the state.
>
> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
09-21-2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
> >
> > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
> > the
> > American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
though!?
That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
> >
> > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
> > the
> > American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
though!?
That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
09-21-2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
> >
> > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
> > the
> > American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
though!?
That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
> >
> > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
> > the
> > American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
though!?
That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
09-21-2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
> >
> > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
> > the
> > American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
though!?
That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
> >
> > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
> > the
> > American legal system !
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
though!?
That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
09-21-2006, 06:59 AM
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Dave, you're making the dangerous assumption that the American civil legal
system works for the good of the people, it actually works for the good of
the dollars.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew
> about
> their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do
> it.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
>> I bet he's running for governor.
>>
>> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>>
>> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
>> standards set by the state.
>>
>> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>
>
system works for the good of the people, it actually works for the good of
the dollars.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew
> about
> their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do
> it.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
>> I bet he's running for governor.
>>
>> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>>
>> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
>> standards set by the state.
>>
>> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>
>
09-21-2006, 06:59 AM
#60
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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Dave, you're making the dangerous assumption that the American civil legal
system works for the good of the people, it actually works for the good of
the dollars.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew
> about
> their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do
> it.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
>> I bet he's running for governor.
>>
>> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>>
>> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
>> standards set by the state.
>>
>> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>
>
system works for the good of the people, it actually works for the good of
the dollars.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew
> about
> their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do
> it.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com...
>> I bet he's running for governor.
>>
>> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.
>>
>> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
>> standards set by the state.
>>
>> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>
>