A/C problem
#31
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Re: A/C problem
Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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tim bur wrote:
>
> really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> ten years now
you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
tim bur wrote:
>
> really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> ten years now
#32
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Re: A/C problem
Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
tim bur wrote:
>
> really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> ten years now
you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
tim bur wrote:
>
> really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> ten years now
#33
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Re: A/C problem
Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
tim bur wrote:
>
> really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> ten years now
you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
tim bur wrote:
>
> really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> ten years now
#34
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Re: A/C problem
hey doug, just a correction for you on the two lines going to the cab. only
one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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#35
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Re: A/C problem
hey doug, just a correction for you on the two lines going to the cab. only
one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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#36
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Re: A/C problem
hey doug, just a correction for you on the two lines going to the cab. only
one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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#37
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Re: A/C problem
hey doug, just a correction for you on the two lines going to the cab. only
one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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one should be cold. The smaller one should be warm, and the larger one going
to the compressor should be cold. If they are both cold, then there is a
serious problem. The system would be under charged as the refrigerant would
be flashing through the liquid line going into the cab making that line cold.
It should have a solid column of liquid refrigerant, and thus be warm. It
doesn't get cold until it reaches the metering device, and the refrigerant
flashes to vapor. Now, the smaller line should be cooler than the line
coming out of the compressor (discharge) line, but it should not be cool or
cold.
DougW wrote:
>MPClark did pass the time by typing:
>> I have a 97 Jeep Cherokee. Now that it's the summer I want to use my air
>> conditioning. However, when I turn on the A/C, no cold air is put out
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> relay of somesort that controls the clutch, maybe it is stuck it the
>> defrost position? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Without actually looking myself it sounds like your slightly low
>on refrigerant. That's normal for a system as old as yours. My 93 ZJ
>required a kick in the **** (3oz) back in 2000 or so and actually
>might need a checkup, hasn't gotten that hot yet.
>
>There are two sensors in the AC system. A low pressure and a high
>pressure. the low one is located on the accumulator bottle, the
>high one on the ac pump output.
>
>Be careful about how you measure pressure, a correct reading depends on
>outside temperature also. My guess is your at the very low edge of
>the scale. Also remember to correctly get the pressure you need
>to have the compressor running. That's done by jumpering the harness
>to the low level switch and settign the AC on max/recirc. Both the hoses
>going into the cab should be cold to the touch. If one is cold and the
>other warm then your low (or very overfilled). Always trust the pressure
>gauge.
>
>If your not familiar with servicing AC systems it might be best to let
>a local shop do the work. Around here it's about 90$ for an AC system
>service.
>
>For those that quote laws.. here is the EPA read
>http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/609/recharge.html
>The legality depends on the state (or country) you live in.
>
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#38
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Re: A/C problem
sorry to bust your bubble but nothing there clean and dry metal
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
> you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> > ten years now
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
> you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> > ten years now
#39
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Re: A/C problem
sorry to bust your bubble but nothing there clean and dry metal
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
> you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> > ten years now
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
> you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> > ten years now
#40
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Re: A/C problem
sorry to bust your bubble but nothing there clean and dry metal
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
> you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> > ten years now
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> Then someone has added to it. look at the O-ring connections and
> you see the telltale signs of refrigerant oil.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> tim bur wrote:
> >
> > really !!! my 95 grand marquioes has a working never been touched ac system going on
> > ten years now