Buying a Liberty CRD
05-24-2004, 02:46 PM
#61
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
If the Geo Metro passed the test than it is cleaner than any
diesel, period! The Diesel is too dirty to pass the tests required for
the gasoline engine, by a factor of more than two. I've driven diesels
over a million miles, they have their place, but lets not pollute the
world just because you want one in a passenger car.
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http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg
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Geez, just read the link I gave you, what California proposes to
clean them to, for this year, but has postpone it 2006, realizing
there's no f**kin' way they'll comply.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> LOL! It passes emissions, but the Jetta is still "too dirty" for the
> People's Republic of Bill.
>
> BTW, what's your definition of "too dirty"? For example, all of those
> POS Geo Metros that are collecting rust in junkyards across the
> country, are they "clean" vehicles in your eyes?
diesel, period! The Diesel is too dirty to pass the tests required for
the gasoline engine, by a factor of more than two. I've driven diesels
over a million miles, they have their place, but lets not pollute the
world just because you want one in a passenger car.
http://www.----------.com/rextrans.jpg
http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg
http://www.----------.com/white.jpg
Geez, just read the link I gave you, what California proposes to
clean them to, for this year, but has postpone it 2006, realizing
there's no f**kin' way they'll comply.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> LOL! It passes emissions, but the Jetta is still "too dirty" for the
> People's Republic of Bill.
>
> BTW, what's your definition of "too dirty"? For example, all of those
> POS Geo Metros that are collecting rust in junkyards across the
> country, are they "clean" vehicles in your eyes?
05-24-2004, 02:51 PM
#62
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 02:51 PM
#63
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 02:51 PM
#64
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 02:51 PM
#65
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
building, imagine what's in your lungs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
AK wrote:
>
> I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon - though
> our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 03:36 PM
#66
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
but go back to the days when we cooked over open fires....do you think your
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 03:36 PM
#67
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
but go back to the days when we cooked over open fires....do you think your
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 03:36 PM
#68
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
but go back to the days when we cooked over open fires....do you think your
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 03:36 PM
#69
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
but go back to the days when we cooked over open fires....do you think your
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
lungs were virgin clean then?
Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
THAT's scary!
Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
power over a certain amount of time.
I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
given phone call, how long are you on it".
I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
haha
what a rant eh!
Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40B2444E.84D0A60B@***.net...
> But you're paying for it big time, just look at your soot covered
> building, imagine what's in your lungs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> AK wrote:
> >
> > I love my 2.8 Liberty (Cherokee) CRD, they have been around a couple of
> > years here. when you pay as much for fuel as we do ($6.50 a gallon -
though
> > our gallons are 20% bigger) you will be glad of the better fuel economy
05-24-2004, 04:19 PM
#70
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Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
Coal is made up of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, so it burns
just find underground without additional oxygen. Nitrous! :-) That was
one of the hardest things for me to understand as a kid, that a rock
like gypsum (CaSO4·H2O) had water in it and that cement was a chemical
reaction.
Radiation, good. let me have a pill to crack some hydrogen from my
salt water fuel tank. Until then don't bother me with these tax
subsidized hybrid golf carts that'll never be cost efficient, as long as
we have gas.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
SB wrote:
>
> but go back to the days when we cooked over open fires....do you think your
> lungs were virgin clean then?
>
> Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
> pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
> THAT's scary!
>
> Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
> You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
> whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
> all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
> workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
> power over a certain amount of time.
>
> I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
> in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
> engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
> given phone call, how long are you on it".
> I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
> then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
> are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
> haha
> what a rant eh!
> Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
> food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
> emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
>
> my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
> they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
> wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!
just find underground without additional oxygen. Nitrous! :-) That was
one of the hardest things for me to understand as a kid, that a rock
like gypsum (CaSO4·H2O) had water in it and that cement was a chemical
reaction.
Radiation, good. let me have a pill to crack some hydrogen from my
salt water fuel tank. Until then don't bother me with these tax
subsidized hybrid golf carts that'll never be cost efficient, as long as
we have gas.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
SB wrote:
>
> but go back to the days when we cooked over open fires....do you think your
> lungs were virgin clean then?
>
> Just had a mental argument with myself there....wasn't there a place in
> pensylvania that the coal was burning under the ground or something? now
> THAT's scary!
>
> Ok...back to my regularly scheduled rant....
> You know those RF emissions test they did on cell phones on 20/20 or
> whatever show? Know how they all passed....it's funny to note, that they
> all passed a peak emissions test. But the way the safety boards rate it for
> workers/people is 'exposure' limits. So it's being exposed to a certain
> power over a certain amount of time.
>
> I work on radars. We were installing one near a town and the folks were up
> in arms cuz of the RADIATION worries (wrong radiation...but that's ok). Our
> engineer went and asked them all, "do you have a cell phone"...."in any
> given phone call, how long are you on it".
> I guess, on the old analog phones, if you were on it for 10 minutes or so,
> then you were over the exposure limits. Of course now that digital phones
> are out there, then you can slow boil your eyes instead of the fast fry!
> haha
> what a rant eh!
> Anyhow, I guess what I'm getting at..... with all the smog, pollution,
> food additives, etc.... out there that can cause us harm; don't forget rf
> emissions too. A LOT more people are needing eye glasses these days!
>
> my head hurts now.....might be the lack of good air to breath....or the crap
> they stuffed in to my big mac.....or the rf emissions (ALIENS!! RUN!)....oh
> wait, I've been thinking again...ok, 'nuf said!