Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Hello,

I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).

The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.

What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
from outside CA.

Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing out
of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of weeks.
If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on out
of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.

here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm

good luck-
Chuck


"Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing out
of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of weeks.
If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on out
of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.

here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm

good luck-
Chuck


"Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing out
of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of weeks.
If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on out
of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.

here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm

good luck-
Chuck


"Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing out
of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of weeks.
If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on out
of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.

here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm

good luck-
Chuck


"Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.

Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

"Chuck Bremer" <cbremer@nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CV_rc.6961$be.535@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing
out
> of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
> state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
> emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
> 7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
> title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
> where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
> you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
> there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
> registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of
weeks.
> If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
> pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on
out
> of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.
>
> here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm
>
> good luck-
> Chuck
>
>
> "Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> > when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> > been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
> >
> > The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> > However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> > I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
> >
> > What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> > drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> > prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> > bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> > from outside CA.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice.
>
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.

Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

"Chuck Bremer" <cbremer@nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CV_rc.6961$be.535@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing
out
> of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
> state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
> emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
> 7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
> title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
> where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
> you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
> there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
> registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of
weeks.
> If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
> pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on
out
> of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.
>
> here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm
>
> good luck-
> Chuck
>
>
> "Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> > when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> > been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
> >
> > The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> > However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> > I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
> >
> > What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> > drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> > prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> > bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> > from outside CA.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice.
>
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.

Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

"Chuck Bremer" <cbremer@nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CV_rc.6961$be.535@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing
out
> of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
> state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
> emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
> 7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
> title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
> where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
> you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
> there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
> registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of
weeks.
> If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
> pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on
out
> of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.
>
> here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm
>
> good luck-
> Chuck
>
>
> "Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> > when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> > been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
> >
> > The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> > However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> > I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
> >
> > What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> > drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> > prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> > bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> > from outside CA.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice.
>
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.

Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

"Chuck Bremer" <cbremer@nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CV_rc.6961$be.535@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> Check with the DMV www.dmv.ca.gov- they have some good info on bringing
out
> of state vehicles into CA. IIRC, you cannot buy a new vehicle from out of
> state and bring it in, unless it was manufactured to meet California
> emissions standards... if it's a 49-state vehicle, it must have at least
> 7,500 miles on the clock. Once you find a vehicle (and have its current
> title, which has been signed over to you), take it to a DMV or CHP office,
> where they will verify the VIN. You then send in some paperwork (or since
> you're already at the DMV office, you can take care of it while you're
> there). Pay your fees, and you're on your way with new plates and
> registration, and your new title will come in the mail in a couple of
weeks.
> If you were to bring in a gasoline powered vehicle, you would also have to
> pass a Smog Check. There used to be a $300 'smog impact fee' charged on
out
> of state vehicles, but it was declared unconstitutional a few years back.
>
> here's a link to get you started: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/newvehicle.htm
>
> good luck-
> Chuck
>
>
> "Beeblebrox" <sl1433@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c976cb73.0405230041.6677ebd4@posting.google.c om...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> > when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> > been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
> >
> > The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> > However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> > I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
> >
> > What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> > drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> > prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> > bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> > from outside CA.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice.
>
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.

Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
to report the registration fraud.

Details available on the California DMV website.

--
Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.

Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
to report the registration fraud.

Details available on the California DMV website.

--
Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.

Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
to report the registration fraud.

Details available on the California DMV website.

--
Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.

Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
to report the registration fraud.

Details available on the California DMV website.

--
Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

When i was living in BC (canada) you could buy a car in Alberta, the next
province over, and not have to pay PST (Provincial Sales Tax).

Along with that, you'd pay some hefty fees to bring it back brand new....so
for the first year or whatever, ppl would park it at home with alberta tags
on it.
I don't know how the insurance works on this....if you lie it's fraud....



>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.
>
> --
> Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

When i was living in BC (canada) you could buy a car in Alberta, the next
province over, and not have to pay PST (Provincial Sales Tax).

Along with that, you'd pay some hefty fees to bring it back brand new....so
for the first year or whatever, ppl would park it at home with alberta tags
on it.
I don't know how the insurance works on this....if you lie it's fraud....



>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.
>
> --
> Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

When i was living in BC (canada) you could buy a car in Alberta, the next
province over, and not have to pay PST (Provincial Sales Tax).

Along with that, you'd pay some hefty fees to bring it back brand new....so
for the first year or whatever, ppl would park it at home with alberta tags
on it.
I don't know how the insurance works on this....if you lie it's fraud....



>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.
>
> --
> Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

When i was living in BC (canada) you could buy a car in Alberta, the next
province over, and not have to pay PST (Provincial Sales Tax).

Along with that, you'd pay some hefty fees to bring it back brand new....so
for the first year or whatever, ppl would park it at home with alberta tags
on it.
I don't know how the insurance works on this....if you lie it's fraud....



>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.
>
> --
> Me human. You Computer. Me have BFH. You have fragile parts. You behave.
>

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11 did pass the time by typing:
> Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
>> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
>> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>>
>> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
>> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
>> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>>
>> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
>> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
>> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
>> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
>> from outside CA.
>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.

Looks like one way is simply to wait and buy a used vehicle out of state.
After a few months there should be demo-models for sale at dealerships or
returns on leases/repossessions etc. I wouldn't mind living in California
if it wasn't for the screwball laws and repressive regulations they have.

--
DougW

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11 did pass the time by typing:
> Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
>> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
>> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>>
>> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
>> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
>> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>>
>> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
>> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
>> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
>> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
>> from outside CA.
>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.

Looks like one way is simply to wait and buy a used vehicle out of state.
After a few months there should be demo-models for sale at dealerships or
returns on leases/repossessions etc. I wouldn't mind living in California
if it wasn't for the screwball laws and repressive regulations they have.

--
DougW

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11 did pass the time by typing:
> Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
>> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
>> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>>
>> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
>> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
>> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>>
>> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
>> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
>> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
>> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
>> from outside CA.
>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.

Looks like one way is simply to wait and buy a used vehicle out of state.
After a few months there should be demo-models for sale at dealerships or
returns on leases/repossessions etc. I wouldn't mind living in California
if it wasn't for the screwball laws and repressive regulations they have.

--
DougW

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11 did pass the time by typing:
> Roughly 5/23/04 01:41, Beeblebrox's monkeys randomly typed:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
>> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
>> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>>
>> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
>> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
>> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>>
>> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
>> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
>> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
>> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
>> from outside CA.
>
> Unless you are a resident of a state where the vehicle is legal,
> and bring it to California as a used vehicle you will have trouble
> registering it, since is isn't legal. You could register it out of
> state, but it seems that currently California is encouraging folks
> who spot out of state cars regularly parked near California residences
> to report the registration fraud.
>
> Details available on the California DMV website.

Looks like one way is simply to wait and buy a used vehicle out of state.
After a few months there should be demo-models for sale at dealerships or
returns on leases/repossessions etc. I wouldn't mind living in California
if it wasn't for the screwball laws and repressive regulations they have.

--
DougW

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just amazing

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just amazing

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just amazing

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just amazing

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<c8q9tu01ohi@enews3.newsguy.com>...
> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>
> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
so we likely agree in that regard.

But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

So don't throw stones; you likely live in a glass house.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<c8q9tu01ohi@enews3.newsguy.com>...
> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>
> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
so we likely agree in that regard.

But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

So don't throw stones; you likely live in a glass house.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<c8q9tu01ohi@enews3.newsguy.com>...
> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>
> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
so we likely agree in that regard.

But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

So don't throw stones; you likely live in a glass house.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<c8q9tu01ohi@enews3.newsguy.com>...
> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>
> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.

I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
so we likely agree in that regard.

But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

So don't throw stones; you likely live in a glass house.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Beeblebrox did pass the time by typing:
> "Jerry McG" wrote ...
>> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>>
>> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
>> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.
>
> I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
> on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
> so we likely agree in that regard.
>
> But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

Actually Oklahoma got rid of the vehicle inspections all because
the inspection stations weren't making enough off the 7$ charge.
So now we have to put up with idiots that don't/can't/won't maintain
their own vehicles. No brake lights, no head lamps (or just one),
bald tires... it's getting scary.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Beeblebrox did pass the time by typing:
> "Jerry McG" wrote ...
>> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>>
>> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
>> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.
>
> I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
> on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
> so we likely agree in that regard.
>
> But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

Actually Oklahoma got rid of the vehicle inspections all because
the inspection stations weren't making enough off the 7$ charge.
So now we have to put up with idiots that don't/can't/won't maintain
their own vehicles. No brake lights, no head lamps (or just one),
bald tires... it's getting scary.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Beeblebrox did pass the time by typing:
> "Jerry McG" wrote ...
>> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>>
>> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
>> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.
>
> I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
> on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
> so we likely agree in that regard.
>
> But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

Actually Oklahoma got rid of the vehicle inspections all because
the inspection stations weren't making enough off the 7$ charge.
So now we have to put up with idiots that don't/can't/won't maintain
their own vehicles. No brake lights, no head lamps (or just one),
bald tires... it's getting scary.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

Beeblebrox did pass the time by typing:
> "Jerry McG" wrote ...
>> Unbelieveable...no wonder Kalifornia's broke.
>>
>> Imagine how many politicians have worked to create all this madness just to
>> give their patronage workers something to do. It might be easier to move.
>
> I'm no fan of the special smog rules California's government inflicts
> on residents and others, especially the recent smog program changes,
> so we likely agree in that regard.
>
> But it's a good bed that the State you live in is "broke", too.

Actually Oklahoma got rid of the vehicle inspections all because
the inspection stations weren't making enough off the 7$ charge.
So now we have to put up with idiots that don't/can't/won't maintain
their own vehicles. No brake lights, no head lamps (or just one),
bald tires... it's getting scary.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

I'm hoping the new diesel SMOG tests to start in 2006, will drive
the rest of these polluters off the road:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

I'm hoping the new diesel SMOG tests to start in 2006, will drive
the rest of these polluters off the road:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

I'm hoping the new diesel SMOG tests to start in 2006, will drive
the rest of these polluters off the road:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

I'm hoping the new diesel SMOG tests to start in 2006, will drive
the rest of these polluters off the road:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I live in California, and I'm planning on buying a Jeep Liberty CRD
> when it comes out (the Diesel powered Liberty that Jeep's apparently
> been selling everywhere else on the planet, except the USA).
>
> The vibe I get is that this vehicle will not be sold in California.
> However, it will not be difficult for me to buy it out-of-state, since
> I make trips to Nevada, Washington and Oregon frequently.
>
> What do I need to do in order for this purchase to go smoothly once I
> drive it back to CA? Will the California Diesel Police throw me in
> prison? Will I be allowed to register it? Every car I've owned I've
> bought in CA, so I don't know what I'm in for when I register a car
> from outside CA.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

that's another reason why most companies have facilities down there.


"Waveblast9" <waveblast9@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040523152051.17626.00000906@mb-m15.aol.com...
> Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
> ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
> about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just
amazing

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

that's another reason why most companies have facilities down there.


"Waveblast9" <waveblast9@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040523152051.17626.00000906@mb-m15.aol.com...
> Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
> ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
> about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just
amazing

Re: Buying a Liberty CRD
 

that's another reason why most companies have facilities down there.


"Waveblast9" <waveblast9@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040523152051.17626.00000906@mb-m15.aol.com...
> Kinda funny when you realize that mexico literally has no anti dumping or
> ecological laws whatsoever. Ive heard stories from ex border patrol agents
> about a rive down there that is like a toxic waste river... really just
amazing