Trish in Alaska

I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
going on?
My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
self?
What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!

Matt Macchiarolo

Sounds like a bad solenoid. Did he change out the solenoid as well?

Might also look for another mechanic.

"Trish in Alaska" <alaskagal@acsalaska.net> wrote in message
news:1172295369.390893.113850@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
> I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
> start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
> turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
> with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
> starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
> take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
> was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
> up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
> jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
> pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
> the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
> going on?
> My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
> self?
> What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
> cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Sounds like a bad solenoid. Did he change out the solenoid as well?

Might also look for another mechanic.

"Trish in Alaska" <alaskagal@acsalaska.net> wrote in message
news:1172295369.390893.113850@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
> I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
> start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
> turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
> with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
> starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
> take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
> was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
> up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
> jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
> pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
> the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
> going on?
> My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
> self?
> What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
> cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!
>

Matt Macchiarolo

Sounds like a bad solenoid. Did he change out the solenoid as well?

Might also look for another mechanic.

"Trish in Alaska" <alaskagal@acsalaska.net> wrote in message
news:1172295369.390893.113850@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
> I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
> start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
> turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
> with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
> starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
> take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
> was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
> up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
> jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
> pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
> the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
> going on?
> My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
> self?
> What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
> cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!
>

Mike Romain

Figure the parts store uses the same rebuilder and he just hired someone
at $5.00 an hour to come rebuild rather than flip burgers....

You might have to change brands of parts, I have had to on too many
occasions over the years. I had to actually leave town to get a GM
waterpump after the 5th failure in a row.

I gave up on one store for rebuilt brake and clutch masters, they just
can't do it.

Jeeps also have a starter relay on the fender. A dirty connection there
can cause your symptoms. The bad connection can cause a no start and
the bad connection can cause lots of heat which can sometimes cause the
relay to stick on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Trish in Alaska wrote:
> I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
> I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
> start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
> turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
> with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
> starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
> take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
> was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
> up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
> jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
> pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
> the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
> going on?
> My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
> self?
> What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
> cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!
>

Mike Romain

Figure the parts store uses the same rebuilder and he just hired someone
at $5.00 an hour to come rebuild rather than flip burgers....

You might have to change brands of parts, I have had to on too many
occasions over the years. I had to actually leave town to get a GM
waterpump after the 5th failure in a row.

I gave up on one store for rebuilt brake and clutch masters, they just
can't do it.

Jeeps also have a starter relay on the fender. A dirty connection there
can cause your symptoms. The bad connection can cause a no start and
the bad connection can cause lots of heat which can sometimes cause the
relay to stick on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Trish in Alaska wrote:
> I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
> I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
> start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
> turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
> with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
> starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
> take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
> was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
> up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
> jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
> pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
> the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
> going on?
> My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
> self?
> What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
> cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!
>

Mike Romain

Figure the parts store uses the same rebuilder and he just hired someone
at $5.00 an hour to come rebuild rather than flip burgers....

You might have to change brands of parts, I have had to on too many
occasions over the years. I had to actually leave town to get a GM
waterpump after the 5th failure in a row.

I gave up on one store for rebuilt brake and clutch masters, they just
can't do it.

Jeeps also have a starter relay on the fender. A dirty connection there
can cause your symptoms. The bad connection can cause a no start and
the bad connection can cause lots of heat which can sometimes cause the
relay to stick on.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Trish in Alaska wrote:
> I have a 89 Jeep Cherokee here in the -30 great Alaska.
> I just had my starter replaced on 2-19-07. Then on 2-22-07 I went to
> start my jeep to warm up so I could drive home from work & it wouldnt
> turn over. My mech. took the jeep and returned it to me 2-23-07 today
> with another rebuilt starter under warranty from NAP. Evidently the
> starter he had originally put on it was deffective. So on 2-23-07,I
> take my jeep to a couple places this afternoon, turning off while I
> was in the stores. Then this evening I go to start my jeep to warm it
> up (Im in Alaska- we have to let our veh. warm up & plug them in). The
> jeep is warming up for about 10 min. when suddenly theres a loud high
> pitch squeeling noise, I run out & there is smoke coming from under
> the hood. I turn it off & all I can smell it burned wire. What is
> going on?
> My mech. stopped by and mentioned maybe the starter is re-engaging its
> self?
> What do you think? Any help would be appreciated. Im so broke, and
> cant afford much else accept maybe a couple nights in the loony bin!
>

Highcountry

I noticed that the starter came from NAPA? Having been an employee
of said company, I know there are 3, yes THREE levels of quality
available. You didn't say which engine you had so the parts below
are for a 4.0 six cylinder.

Part # 244-6273 is the El Cheapo and shops pay around $90.00 for this
one.

Part # 44-6273 is a Serious rebuild and will generally last like a new
one. It goes to a shop for around $125.00.

Part # 4N-6273 is an all new product, no used parts. Downside here is
that it is imported from CHINA. It will sell to a shop for around
$175.00.

Those prices are Repair Shop and include giving them your old starter.

Speaking from personal experience, the "Serious Rebuild" gives less
problems than the Chinese built new unit and the El Cheapo is not to
be trusted.

Your repair receipt "may" have the part number on it. If not, the
starter has a sticker with the part number stamped there. The
sticker is designed to fall off hopefully before the starter fails, so
as to eliminate a lot of warranty attempts so you might consider
spraying a coat of clear paint over it for future reference.

Good Luck, Bruce

Highcountry

I noticed that the starter came from NAPA? Having been an employee
of said company, I know there are 3, yes THREE levels of quality
available. You didn't say which engine you had so the parts below
are for a 4.0 six cylinder.

Part # 244-6273 is the El Cheapo and shops pay around $90.00 for this
one.

Part # 44-6273 is a Serious rebuild and will generally last like a new
one. It goes to a shop for around $125.00.

Part # 4N-6273 is an all new product, no used parts. Downside here is
that it is imported from CHINA. It will sell to a shop for around
$175.00.

Those prices are Repair Shop and include giving them your old starter.

Speaking from personal experience, the "Serious Rebuild" gives less
problems than the Chinese built new unit and the El Cheapo is not to
be trusted.

Your repair receipt "may" have the part number on it. If not, the
starter has a sticker with the part number stamped there. The
sticker is designed to fall off hopefully before the starter fails, so
as to eliminate a lot of warranty attempts so you might consider
spraying a coat of clear paint over it for future reference.

Good Luck, Bruce

Highcountry

I noticed that the starter came from NAPA? Having been an employee
of said company, I know there are 3, yes THREE levels of quality
available. You didn't say which engine you had so the parts below
are for a 4.0 six cylinder.

Part # 244-6273 is the El Cheapo and shops pay around $90.00 for this
one.

Part # 44-6273 is a Serious rebuild and will generally last like a new
one. It goes to a shop for around $125.00.

Part # 4N-6273 is an all new product, no used parts. Downside here is
that it is imported from CHINA. It will sell to a shop for around
$175.00.

Those prices are Repair Shop and include giving them your old starter.

Speaking from personal experience, the "Serious Rebuild" gives less
problems than the Chinese built new unit and the El Cheapo is not to
be trusted.

Your repair receipt "may" have the part number on it. If not, the
starter has a sticker with the part number stamped there. The
sticker is designed to fall off hopefully before the starter fails, so
as to eliminate a lot of warranty attempts so you might consider
spraying a coat of clear paint over it for future reference.

Good Luck, Bruce