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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-24-2005 07:31 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
>
> Piss on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> Chevy, I say.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-24-2005 07:31 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
>
> Piss on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> Chevy, I say.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-24-2005 07:31 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
>
> Piss on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> Chevy, I say.


Bret Ludwig 08-24-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
shouldn't be.

The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
better engine than it is given credit for.

The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
you are not a code-head.


Bret Ludwig 08-24-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
shouldn't be.

The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
better engine than it is given credit for.

The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
you are not a code-head.


Bret Ludwig 08-24-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
shouldn't be.

The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
better engine than it is given credit for.

The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
you are not a code-head.


Bret Ludwig 08-24-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
shouldn't be.

The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
better engine than it is given credit for.

The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
you are not a code-head.


Earle Horton 08-24-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Bill,

AA is the place to go to make the 4.0 crank position sensor work too. I
figure this Bret fellow bought an adapter from AA or Novak, and expected it
to come with instructions and a whole conversion kit. The AA catalog and
web site are up front about how more than usual mechanical skill, and
ability to fabricate odd parts, are required for this kind of swap.

The problem with the 4.0 is that you would need the wiring, sensors
including the speedometer, and the computer. Since the original poster has
a roll over Cherokee, he should have everything needed for a successful
conversion. It's just a question of which parts to use, and where. My
recommendation is to study the AA conversion manual, available at
http://www.advanceadapters.com/, figure out what you want to do, and then
run your plan by one of their sales persons. Or Novak.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:430D033E.37863371@cox.net...
> What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
> original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> > you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> > a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> > of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
> >
> > Piss on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> > Chevy, I say.




Earle Horton 08-24-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Bill,

AA is the place to go to make the 4.0 crank position sensor work too. I
figure this Bret fellow bought an adapter from AA or Novak, and expected it
to come with instructions and a whole conversion kit. The AA catalog and
web site are up front about how more than usual mechanical skill, and
ability to fabricate odd parts, are required for this kind of swap.

The problem with the 4.0 is that you would need the wiring, sensors
including the speedometer, and the computer. Since the original poster has
a roll over Cherokee, he should have everything needed for a successful
conversion. It's just a question of which parts to use, and where. My
recommendation is to study the AA conversion manual, available at
http://www.advanceadapters.com/, figure out what you want to do, and then
run your plan by one of their sales persons. Or Novak.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:430D033E.37863371@cox.net...
> What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
> original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> > you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> > a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> > of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
> >
> > Piss on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> > Chevy, I say.




Earle Horton 08-24-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
 
Bill,

AA is the place to go to make the 4.0 crank position sensor work too. I
figure this Bret fellow bought an adapter from AA or Novak, and expected it
to come with instructions and a whole conversion kit. The AA catalog and
web site are up front about how more than usual mechanical skill, and
ability to fabricate odd parts, are required for this kind of swap.

The problem with the 4.0 is that you would need the wiring, sensors
including the speedometer, and the computer. Since the original poster has
a roll over Cherokee, he should have everything needed for a successful
conversion. It's just a question of which parts to use, and where. My
recommendation is to study the AA conversion manual, available at
http://www.advanceadapters.com/, figure out what you want to do, and then
run your plan by one of their sales persons. Or Novak.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:430D033E.37863371@cox.net...
> What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
> original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> > you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> > a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> > of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
> >
> > Piss on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> > Chevy, I say.





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