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Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 01:57 AM

Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:

http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm

Grumman-581 01-25-2006 02:16 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:


I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the bottom of
the angle bracket would give you more flexibility... It would lower the
trailer tongue enough that you probably wouldn't have to worry about your
door hitting it... If your vehicle is lifted, you could use a 2" receiver
with a drop so that the trailer could be towed in a more level attitude...
You would also have the option to use the 2" receiver for a bike rack or
cargo carrier...



Grumman-581 01-25-2006 02:16 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:


I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the bottom of
the angle bracket would give you more flexibility... It would lower the
trailer tongue enough that you probably wouldn't have to worry about your
door hitting it... If your vehicle is lifted, you could use a 2" receiver
with a drop so that the trailer could be towed in a more level attitude...
You would also have the option to use the 2" receiver for a bike rack or
cargo carrier...



Grumman-581 01-25-2006 02:16 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:


I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the bottom of
the angle bracket would give you more flexibility... It would lower the
trailer tongue enough that you probably wouldn't have to worry about your
door hitting it... If your vehicle is lifted, you could use a 2" receiver
with a drop so that the trailer could be towed in a more level attitude...
You would also have the option to use the 2" receiver for a bike rack or
cargo carrier...



Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 02:34 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Grumman-581 writes:

> I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the
> bottom of the angle bracket would give you more flexibility.


Agreed. I may modify it later like you say, but for now I just wanted the
minimum cost and effort to tow a small boat, improvising a step bumper like
on a pickup truck.

Bumper-mounting a 2-inch receiver strikes me as an awkward combination,
like hanging an oxen yoke on a pony.

Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 02:34 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Grumman-581 writes:

> I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the
> bottom of the angle bracket would give you more flexibility.


Agreed. I may modify it later like you say, but for now I just wanted the
minimum cost and effort to tow a small boat, improvising a step bumper like
on a pickup truck.

Bumper-mounting a 2-inch receiver strikes me as an awkward combination,
like hanging an oxen yoke on a pony.

Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 02:34 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Grumman-581 writes:

> I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the
> bottom of the angle bracket would give you more flexibility.


Agreed. I may modify it later like you say, but for now I just wanted the
minimum cost and effort to tow a small boat, improvising a step bumper like
on a pickup truck.

Bumper-mounting a 2-inch receiver strikes me as an awkward combination,
like hanging an oxen yoke on a pony.

Grumman-581 01-25-2006 03:29 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97561A408297Fsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Bumper-mounting a 2-inch receiver strikes me as an awkward combination,
> like hanging an oxen yoke on a pony.


Which group are you posting from so I can drop the crossposting to the
other... I'm in r.a.m.j+w...

The thing is, it gives you a lot more flexibility for other attachments that
you don't have with smaller receivers or just a bumper hitch... It also
gives you the option for a receiver mounted winch that you could move from
the front to the rear (assume that you also did the same thing on the front
bumper)... I've been considering mounting 2 extra 2" receivers on my rear
bumper and making a custom cargo carrier such that it would have three 2"
supports that would slide into the three receivers... That would make for a
'ell of a sturdy cargo carrier...

The bumper mounted 2" receivers that I've seen previously also have a 45"
piece of plate steel welded on both sides of the 2" receiver to the mounting
plate so that it will provide more resistance to twisting... Probably more
of an issue with a cargo carrier than a trailer...



Grumman-581 01-25-2006 03:29 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97561A408297Fsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Bumper-mounting a 2-inch receiver strikes me as an awkward combination,
> like hanging an oxen yoke on a pony.


Which group are you posting from so I can drop the crossposting to the
other... I'm in r.a.m.j+w...

The thing is, it gives you a lot more flexibility for other attachments that
you don't have with smaller receivers or just a bumper hitch... It also
gives you the option for a receiver mounted winch that you could move from
the front to the rear (assume that you also did the same thing on the front
bumper)... I've been considering mounting 2 extra 2" receivers on my rear
bumper and making a custom cargo carrier such that it would have three 2"
supports that would slide into the three receivers... That would make for a
'ell of a sturdy cargo carrier...

The bumper mounted 2" receivers that I've seen previously also have a 45"
piece of plate steel welded on both sides of the 2" receiver to the mounting
plate so that it will provide more resistance to twisting... Probably more
of an issue with a cargo carrier than a trailer...



Grumman-581 01-25-2006 03:29 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97561A408297Fsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Bumper-mounting a 2-inch receiver strikes me as an awkward combination,
> like hanging an oxen yoke on a pony.


Which group are you posting from so I can drop the crossposting to the
other... I'm in r.a.m.j+w...

The thing is, it gives you a lot more flexibility for other attachments that
you don't have with smaller receivers or just a bumper hitch... It also
gives you the option for a receiver mounted winch that you could move from
the front to the rear (assume that you also did the same thing on the front
bumper)... I've been considering mounting 2 extra 2" receivers on my rear
bumper and making a custom cargo carrier such that it would have three 2"
supports that would slide into the three receivers... That would make for a
'ell of a sturdy cargo carrier...

The bumper mounted 2" receivers that I've seen previously also have a 45"
piece of plate steel welded on both sides of the 2" receiver to the mounting
plate so that it will provide more resistance to twisting... Probably more
of an issue with a cargo carrier than a trailer...



Gunner 01-25-2006 04:54 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:16:53 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:

>
>I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the bottom of
>the angle bracket would give you more flexibility... It would lower the
>trailer tongue enough that you probably wouldn't have to worry about your
>door hitting it... If your vehicle is lifted, you could use a 2" receiver
>with a drop so that the trailer could be towed in a more level attitude...
>You would also have the option to use the 2" receiver for a bike rack or
>cargo carrier...
>

I agree. Well said.

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her ----"
John Griffin

Gunner 01-25-2006 04:54 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:16:53 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:

>
>I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the bottom of
>the angle bracket would give you more flexibility... It would lower the
>trailer tongue enough that you probably wouldn't have to worry about your
>door hitting it... If your vehicle is lifted, you could use a 2" receiver
>with a drop so that the trailer could be towed in a more level attitude...
>You would also have the option to use the 2" receiver for a bike rack or
>cargo carrier...
>

I agree. Well said.

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her ----"
John Griffin

Gunner 01-25-2006 04:54 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:16:53 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131 ...
>> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:

>
>I would think that welding a 2" receiver hitch receptacle to the bottom of
>the angle bracket would give you more flexibility... It would lower the
>trailer tongue enough that you probably wouldn't have to worry about your
>door hitting it... If your vehicle is lifted, you could use a 2" receiver
>with a drop so that the trailer could be towed in a more level attitude...
>You would also have the option to use the 2" receiver for a bike rack or
>cargo carrier...
>

I agree. Well said.

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her ----"
John Griffin

Tomes 01-25-2006 07:42 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Nice and simple. The thing I am worried about is the strength of the
connection between the bumper and the Jeep itself.
Tomes

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




Tomes 01-25-2006 07:42 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Nice and simple. The thing I am worried about is the strength of the
connection between the bumper and the Jeep itself.
Tomes

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




Tomes 01-25-2006 07:42 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Nice and simple. The thing I am worried about is the strength of the
connection between the bumper and the Jeep itself.
Tomes

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




RoyJ 01-25-2006 07:54 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
The bumper on the Wrangler is not not strong enougth for trailer loading
to the 2000 pound towing capacity of the Jeep (assuming you have the
6cyl and 2000 pound rated capacity)

I'm fairly certain that I could grab a 2' pipe wrench and give that
hitch a good flexing without too much trouble.

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


RoyJ 01-25-2006 07:54 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
The bumper on the Wrangler is not not strong enougth for trailer loading
to the 2000 pound towing capacity of the Jeep (assuming you have the
6cyl and 2000 pound rated capacity)

I'm fairly certain that I could grab a 2' pipe wrench and give that
hitch a good flexing without too much trouble.

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


RoyJ 01-25-2006 07:54 AM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
The bumper on the Wrangler is not not strong enougth for trailer loading
to the 2000 pound towing capacity of the Jeep (assuming you have the
6cyl and 2000 pound rated capacity)

I'm fairly certain that I could grab a 2' pipe wrench and give that
hitch a good flexing without too much trouble.

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


twaldron 01-25-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
While I'm sure there are some extremely light duty applications where
this would suffice and be more cost effective, a 2" drawbar type hitch
is FAR more versatile. Especially one integrated into a bumper. On that
note, the added 'tail' to the vehicle reduces departure angle. I'd hate
to come down on a rock with that. For those reasons, I'd personally
never consider purchasing this type of hitch. I wish you good luck with
your design, however. Let us know how it works out.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


twaldron 01-25-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
While I'm sure there are some extremely light duty applications where
this would suffice and be more cost effective, a 2" drawbar type hitch
is FAR more versatile. Especially one integrated into a bumper. On that
note, the added 'tail' to the vehicle reduces departure angle. I'd hate
to come down on a rock with that. For those reasons, I'd personally
never consider purchasing this type of hitch. I wish you good luck with
your design, however. Let us know how it works out.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


twaldron 01-25-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
While I'm sure there are some extremely light duty applications where
this would suffice and be more cost effective, a 2" drawbar type hitch
is FAR more versatile. Especially one integrated into a bumper. On that
note, the added 'tail' to the vehicle reduces departure angle. I'd hate
to come down on a rock with that. For those reasons, I'd personally
never consider purchasing this type of hitch. I wish you good luck with
your design, however. Let us know how it works out.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Richard J Kinch wrote:
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
RoyJ writes:

> The bumper on the Wrangler is not not strong enougth for trailer loading
> to the 2000 pound towing capacity of the Jeep (assuming you have the
> 6cyl and 2000 pound rated capacity)


I guess you didn't actually read the page, where I say as much.

The point is to get *some* capacity without spending $150 for a real frame
hitch and drawbar.

Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
RoyJ writes:

> The bumper on the Wrangler is not not strong enougth for trailer loading
> to the 2000 pound towing capacity of the Jeep (assuming you have the
> 6cyl and 2000 pound rated capacity)


I guess you didn't actually read the page, where I say as much.

The point is to get *some* capacity without spending $150 for a real frame
hitch and drawbar.

Richard J Kinch 01-25-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
RoyJ writes:

> The bumper on the Wrangler is not not strong enougth for trailer loading
> to the 2000 pound towing capacity of the Jeep (assuming you have the
> 6cyl and 2000 pound rated capacity)


I guess you didn't actually read the page, where I say as much.

The point is to get *some* capacity without spending $150 for a real frame
hitch and drawbar.

cantrelm 01-25-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.
When I ordered my 2000 TJ with towing package it had a separate tube and
receiver mounted off of the frame rails and not to the bumper itself
as they told me it would not hold up to towing....... it is very thin
channel that is mounted to the cross member mainly and not the frame. I
would be very leery about doing this. Nice design though...

Tom

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




cantrelm 01-25-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.
When I ordered my 2000 TJ with towing package it had a separate tube and
receiver mounted off of the frame rails and not to the bumper itself
as they told me it would not hold up to towing....... it is very thin
channel that is mounted to the cross member mainly and not the frame. I
would be very leery about doing this. Nice design though...

Tom

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




cantrelm 01-25-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.
When I ordered my 2000 TJ with towing package it had a separate tube and
receiver mounted off of the frame rails and not to the bumper itself
as they told me it would not hold up to towing....... it is very thin
channel that is mounted to the cross member mainly and not the frame. I
would be very leery about doing this. Nice design though...

Tom

"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




Dave Milne 01-25-2006 02:57 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
I have the mopar towbar - it attaches to the frame at 6 points using 1/4"
plate. Pretty substantial.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C5QBf.947$dF5.638@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.
> When I ordered my 2000 TJ with towing package it had a separate tube and
> receiver mounted off of the frame rails and not to the bumper itself
> as they told me it would not hold up to towing....... it is very thin
> channel that is mounted to the cross member mainly and not the frame. I
> would be very leery about doing this. Nice design though...
>
> Tom
>
> "Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> > Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
> >
> > http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm

>
>




Dave Milne 01-25-2006 02:57 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
I have the mopar towbar - it attaches to the frame at 6 points using 1/4"
plate. Pretty substantial.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C5QBf.947$dF5.638@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.
> When I ordered my 2000 TJ with towing package it had a separate tube and
> receiver mounted off of the frame rails and not to the bumper itself
> as they told me it would not hold up to towing....... it is very thin
> channel that is mounted to the cross member mainly and not the frame. I
> would be very leery about doing this. Nice design though...
>
> Tom
>
> "Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> > Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
> >
> > http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm

>
>




Dave Milne 01-25-2006 02:57 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
I have the mopar towbar - it attaches to the frame at 6 points using 1/4"
plate. Pretty substantial.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C5QBf.947$dF5.638@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.
> When I ordered my 2000 TJ with towing package it had a separate tube and
> receiver mounted off of the frame rails and not to the bumper itself
> as they told me it would not hold up to towing....... it is very thin
> channel that is mounted to the cross member mainly and not the frame. I
> would be very leery about doing this. Nice design though...
>
> Tom
>
> "Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> > Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
> >
> > http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm

>
>




Mike Romain 01-25-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
If you get pulled over by the highway patrol, you will/should get busted
for something as dumb as that. Not meaning to be a jerk or anything but
Wow...

The bumper isn't rated for towing or even jacking up under so
technically that is an illegal hitch, let alone an unsafe one.

The TJ bumper isn't even strong enough to tow a TJ out of a snowbank
without bending or tearing off, let alone pulling almost the 'legal'
limit that the TJ can handle which is 2000 lb. Your 1000 lb boat, plus
trailer, plus gear inside is easily the limit.

Sorry man, it just isn't a good idea.

Just FYI, even the expensive 2" receiver bumpers with the 2" hitch built
in have a warning on them that says they are 'not' legal for towing,
only legal for putting a bike rack or some other type of rack into.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


Mike Romain 01-25-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
If you get pulled over by the highway patrol, you will/should get busted
for something as dumb as that. Not meaning to be a jerk or anything but
Wow...

The bumper isn't rated for towing or even jacking up under so
technically that is an illegal hitch, let alone an unsafe one.

The TJ bumper isn't even strong enough to tow a TJ out of a snowbank
without bending or tearing off, let alone pulling almost the 'legal'
limit that the TJ can handle which is 2000 lb. Your 1000 lb boat, plus
trailer, plus gear inside is easily the limit.

Sorry man, it just isn't a good idea.

Just FYI, even the expensive 2" receiver bumpers with the 2" hitch built
in have a warning on them that says they are 'not' legal for towing,
only legal for putting a bike rack or some other type of rack into.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


Mike Romain 01-25-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
If you get pulled over by the highway patrol, you will/should get busted
for something as dumb as that. Not meaning to be a jerk or anything but
Wow...

The bumper isn't rated for towing or even jacking up under so
technically that is an illegal hitch, let alone an unsafe one.

The TJ bumper isn't even strong enough to tow a TJ out of a snowbank
without bending or tearing off, let alone pulling almost the 'legal'
limit that the TJ can handle which is 2000 lb. Your 1000 lb boat, plus
trailer, plus gear inside is easily the limit.

Sorry man, it just isn't a good idea.

Just FYI, even the expensive 2" receiver bumpers with the 2" hitch built
in have a warning on them that says they are 'not' legal for towing,
only legal for putting a bike rack or some other type of rack into.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Richard J Kinch wrote:
>
> Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
>
> http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm


Grumman-581 01-25-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C5QBf.947$dF5.638@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.


Yeah, it does seem a bit flimsy, like the original bumpers on my XJ...
Perhaps his next project should be to design a real bumper for his TJ that
utilizes the original bumper's mounting points in addition to the mounting
points for the factory receiver hitch... Make the entire bumper out of 1/4"
steel so that you can jack the car up with it... Might as well consider
closing off parts of it for an emergency air tank also...



Grumman-581 01-25-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C5QBf.947$dF5.638@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.


Yeah, it does seem a bit flimsy, like the original bumpers on my XJ...
Perhaps his next project should be to design a real bumper for his TJ that
utilizes the original bumper's mounting points in addition to the mounting
points for the factory receiver hitch... Make the entire bumper out of 1/4"
steel so that you can jack the car up with it... Might as well consider
closing off parts of it for an emergency air tank also...



Grumman-581 01-25-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C5QBf.947$dF5.638@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> I don't think I would trust the stock bumper on a TJ to pull anything.


Yeah, it does seem a bit flimsy, like the original bumpers on my XJ...
Perhaps his next project should be to design a real bumper for his TJ that
utilizes the original bumper's mounting points in addition to the mounting
points for the factory receiver hitch... Make the entire bumper out of 1/4"
steel so that you can jack the car up with it... Might as well consider
closing off parts of it for an emergency air tank also...



Earle Horton 01-25-2006 04:04 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Mike, you're in Canada. I once passed an accident scene, where failure to
use safety chains, led to a boat trailer coming loose from the tow vehicle,
jumping through an oncoming vehicle's windshield and killing the driver.
The driver of the tow vehicle got a faulty equipment citation, but was
allowed to hook up again and drive home! On the way back from wherever I
had been going, I saw him hooking up the trailer, with help from the state
patrol. Now the law in Colorado says, that safety chains are required, and
legally a manslaughter prosecution would not have been out of line here. It
didn't happen. Maybe the guy paid a fine, but I doubt it.

That is one of the things, that helped me decide to move to western
Colorado. The law is the same there, but the number density of jerks like
that is less, and you have more chances to avoid them.

I have one of those bumpers you are talking about. I use it for a bike
rack.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D7DFC9.83206089@sympatico.ca...
> If you get pulled over by the highway patrol, you will/should get busted
> for something as dumb as that. Not meaning to be a jerk or anything but
> Wow...
>
> The bumper isn't rated for towing or even jacking up under so
> technically that is an illegal hitch, let alone an unsafe one.
>
> The TJ bumper isn't even strong enough to tow a TJ out of a snowbank
> without bending or tearing off, let alone pulling almost the 'legal'
> limit that the TJ can handle which is 2000 lb. Your 1000 lb boat, plus
> trailer, plus gear inside is easily the limit.
>
> Sorry man, it just isn't a good idea.
>
> Just FYI, even the expensive 2" receiver bumpers with the 2" hitch built
> in have a warning on them that says they are 'not' legal for towing,
> only legal for putting a bike rack or some other type of rack into.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Richard J Kinch wrote:
> >
> > Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
> >
> > http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




Earle Horton 01-25-2006 04:04 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Mike, you're in Canada. I once passed an accident scene, where failure to
use safety chains, led to a boat trailer coming loose from the tow vehicle,
jumping through an oncoming vehicle's windshield and killing the driver.
The driver of the tow vehicle got a faulty equipment citation, but was
allowed to hook up again and drive home! On the way back from wherever I
had been going, I saw him hooking up the trailer, with help from the state
patrol. Now the law in Colorado says, that safety chains are required, and
legally a manslaughter prosecution would not have been out of line here. It
didn't happen. Maybe the guy paid a fine, but I doubt it.

That is one of the things, that helped me decide to move to western
Colorado. The law is the same there, but the number density of jerks like
that is less, and you have more chances to avoid them.

I have one of those bumpers you are talking about. I use it for a bike
rack.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D7DFC9.83206089@sympatico.ca...
> If you get pulled over by the highway patrol, you will/should get busted
> for something as dumb as that. Not meaning to be a jerk or anything but
> Wow...
>
> The bumper isn't rated for towing or even jacking up under so
> technically that is an illegal hitch, let alone an unsafe one.
>
> The TJ bumper isn't even strong enough to tow a TJ out of a snowbank
> without bending or tearing off, let alone pulling almost the 'legal'
> limit that the TJ can handle which is 2000 lb. Your 1000 lb boat, plus
> trailer, plus gear inside is easily the limit.
>
> Sorry man, it just isn't a good idea.
>
> Just FYI, even the expensive 2" receiver bumpers with the 2" hitch built
> in have a warning on them that says they are 'not' legal for towing,
> only legal for putting a bike rack or some other type of rack into.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Richard J Kinch wrote:
> >
> > Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
> >
> > http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm




Earle Horton 01-25-2006 04:04 PM

Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
 
Mike, you're in Canada. I once passed an accident scene, where failure to
use safety chains, led to a boat trailer coming loose from the tow vehicle,
jumping through an oncoming vehicle's windshield and killing the driver.
The driver of the tow vehicle got a faulty equipment citation, but was
allowed to hook up again and drive home! On the way back from wherever I
had been going, I saw him hooking up the trailer, with help from the state
patrol. Now the law in Colorado says, that safety chains are required, and
legally a manslaughter prosecution would not have been out of line here. It
didn't happen. Maybe the guy paid a fine, but I doubt it.

That is one of the things, that helped me decide to move to western
Colorado. The law is the same there, but the number density of jerks like
that is less, and you have more chances to avoid them.

I have one of those bumpers you are talking about. I use it for a bike
rack.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D7DFC9.83206089@sympatico.ca...
> If you get pulled over by the highway patrol, you will/should get busted
> for something as dumb as that. Not meaning to be a jerk or anything but
> Wow...
>
> The bumper isn't rated for towing or even jacking up under so
> technically that is an illegal hitch, let alone an unsafe one.
>
> The TJ bumper isn't even strong enough to tow a TJ out of a snowbank
> without bending or tearing off, let alone pulling almost the 'legal'
> limit that the TJ can handle which is 2000 lb. Your 1000 lb boat, plus
> trailer, plus gear inside is easily the limit.
>
> Sorry man, it just isn't a good idea.
>
> Just FYI, even the expensive 2" receiver bumpers with the 2" hitch built
> in have a warning on them that says they are 'not' legal for towing,
> only legal for putting a bike rack or some other type of rack into.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Richard J Kinch wrote:
> >
> > Here is my design for a bumper-mounted Jeep Wrangler TJ trailer hitch:
> >
> > http://www.truetex.com/jeep_trailer_hitch_bracket.htm





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