Bumper/airbag question
07-09-2003, 03:28 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
I do not think it is. I believe the air bag trigger is a decellorometer
thingie that actually lives in the area between the fenderwells and the
firewall. You want the deployment mechanism to be protected from direct
impact because it could become damaged beyond the point of being useful
before it ever tells the airbags to deploy, if it is placed further back on
the frame (ie, closer to the firewall) then it will be protected enough to
deploy the airbag before it is destroyed.
"kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> airbag system part of the stock bumper?
>
>
thingie that actually lives in the area between the fenderwells and the
firewall. You want the deployment mechanism to be protected from direct
impact because it could become damaged beyond the point of being useful
before it ever tells the airbags to deploy, if it is placed further back on
the frame (ie, closer to the firewall) then it will be protected enough to
deploy the airbag before it is destroyed.
"kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> airbag system part of the stock bumper?
>
>
07-09-2003, 04:49 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
The Airbag Control Module is located at rear under console:
http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
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kid4lyf wrote:
>
> I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> airbag system part of the stock bumper?
http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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kid4lyf wrote:
>
> I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> airbag system part of the stock bumper?
07-09-2003, 04:57 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The Airbag Control Module is located at rear under console:
> http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> kid4lyf wrote:
> >
> > I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> > airbag system part of the stock bumper?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The Airbag Control Module is located at rear under console:
> http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> kid4lyf wrote:
> >
> > I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> > airbag system part of the stock bumper?
07-09-2003, 05:30 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
Jeff, do you see any sensors marked on the diagram?
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
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> Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
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> Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
07-09-2003, 06:03 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
No, but my BMW has a similar diagram that also shows the sensors. I suppose
the "sensors" could be an integral part of the controller, but normally they
are a triple-, or maybe only a double-redundant system that contains
multiple sensors. Having a diagram with no sensors is what raised the
question.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff, do you see any sensors marked on the diagram?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
the "sensors" could be an integral part of the controller, but normally they
are a triple-, or maybe only a double-redundant system that contains
multiple sensors. Having a diagram with no sensors is what raised the
question.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff, do you see any sensors marked on the diagram?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
07-10-2003, 08:58 AM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
the stock bumper is worthless weighs about 25 lbs 40 if you include the tow
hooks.
(don't forget to tie the new bumper into the front tow hook mounting areas)
"kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> airbag system part of the stock bumper?
>
>
hooks.
(don't forget to tie the new bumper into the front tow hook mounting areas)
"kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> airbag system part of the stock bumper?
>
>
07-10-2003, 12:53 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
15 pounds of tow hooks? That seems a bit much.
"<me>baggss baggss.net>" <ramjaw@<deleteme> wrote in message
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> the stock bumper is worthless weighs about 25 lbs 40 if you include the
tow
> hooks.
> (don't forget to tie the new bumper into the front tow hook mounting
areas)
> "kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:7tZOa.14409$BM.4634090@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> > I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> > airbag system part of the stock bumper?
> >
> >
>
>
"<me>baggss baggss.net>" <ramjaw@<deleteme> wrote in message
news:vgqomhc6t4c907@corp.supernews.com...
> the stock bumper is worthless weighs about 25 lbs 40 if you include the
tow
> hooks.
> (don't forget to tie the new bumper into the front tow hook mounting
areas)
> "kid4lyf" <b9hise@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:7tZOa.14409$BM.4634090@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com...
> > I am planning on building custom front/rear bumpers for my 99 XJ. Is the
> > airbag system part of the stock bumper?
> >
> >
>
>
07-10-2003, 03:54 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
In article <vgp0mebk7eb1fa@corp.supernews.com>, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> writes:
>Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
>
>
>
>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>news:3F0C7F72.D76EED62@***.net...
>> The Airbag Control Module is located at rear under console:
>> http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
AFAIK the ACM functions in this manner, there are no external "crash sensors"
per se.
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www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<crwlr@yahoo.com> writes:
>Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
>
>
>
>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>news:3F0C7F72.D76EED62@***.net...
>> The Airbag Control Module is located at rear under console:
>> http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
AFAIK the ACM functions in this manner, there are no external "crash sensors"
per se.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
07-10-2003, 04:14 PM
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Re: Bumper/airbag question
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
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> In article <vgp0mebk7eb1fa@corp.supernews.com>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >Where are the crash sensors located? That is the question.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >news:3F0C7F72.D76EED62@***.net...
> >> The Airbag Control Module is located at rear under console:
> >> http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>
> AFAIK the ACM functions in this manner, there are no external "crash
sensors"
> per se.
I think that is what Bill is saying.
My limited experience with airbags is that there should be some sort of
redundantcy built in on the sensors because a single sensor could be
damaged/destroyed before it can deploy the airbag. My BMW has multiple
sensors. Certainly a single sensor could be used, and in this case it could
be housed in the control module, I just didn't consider this possibility
earlier.