BULLFROG CLUTCH
07-26-2007, 11:03 AM
#71
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mike --
>
> > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > manufacturing mine.
>
> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I thought maybe. THANKS!!
I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mike --
>
> > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > manufacturing mine.
>
> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I thought maybe. THANKS!!
I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D
07-26-2007, 11:03 AM
#72
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mike --
>
> > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > manufacturing mine.
>
> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I thought maybe. THANKS!!
I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mike --
>
> > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > manufacturing mine.
>
> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I thought maybe. THANKS!!
I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D
07-26-2007, 11:03 AM
#73
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mike --
>
> > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > manufacturing mine.
>
> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I thought maybe. THANKS!!
I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mike --
>
> > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > manufacturing mine.
>
> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I thought maybe. THANKS!!
I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D
07-26-2007, 11:11 AM
#74
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 11:03 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
07-26-2007, 11:11 AM
#75
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Posts: n/a
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 11:03 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
07-26-2007, 11:11 AM
#76
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Posts: n/a
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 11:03 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
07-26-2007, 11:11 AM
#77
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 11:03 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
> On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tracie wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT
> > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced.
> > >>> That fits with the symptoms.
> > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding
> > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft.
> > >>> Mike
> > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding
> > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to
> > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what
> > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator,
> > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be
> > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be
> > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that
> > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mike --
>
> > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
> > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
> > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
> > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
> > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
> > > manufacturing mine.
>
> > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
> > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>
> > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>
> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
just the MC?
07-26-2007, 11:34 AM
#78
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
>>>> Mike --
>>>> Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
>>>> to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
>>>> make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
>>>> during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
>>>> didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
>>>> manufacturing mine.
>>> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
>>> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>>> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>>
>> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
>> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
>> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
> switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
> be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
> actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
> will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
> throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
> Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
> just the MC?
>
The throw out bearing is not greaseable, it is a sealed bearing these
days I believe.
If the MC and the rod were the problem all along, then I would suspect
overheating and/or wear damage to the throw out bearing and the clutch
pressure plate just like last time.
I do not see the need for a new slave.
Mike
>>>> Mike --
>>>> Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
>>>> to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
>>>> make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
>>>> during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
>>>> didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
>>>> manufacturing mine.
>>> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
>>> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>>> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>>
>> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
>> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
>> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
> switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
> be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
> actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
> will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
> throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
> Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
> just the MC?
>
The throw out bearing is not greaseable, it is a sealed bearing these
days I believe.
If the MC and the rod were the problem all along, then I would suspect
overheating and/or wear damage to the throw out bearing and the clutch
pressure plate just like last time.
I do not see the need for a new slave.
Mike
07-26-2007, 11:34 AM
#79
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Posts: n/a
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
>>>> Mike --
>>>> Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
>>>> to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
>>>> make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
>>>> during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
>>>> didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
>>>> manufacturing mine.
>>> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
>>> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>>> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>>
>> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
>> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
>> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
> switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
> be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
> actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
> will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
> throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
> Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
> just the MC?
>
The throw out bearing is not greaseable, it is a sealed bearing these
days I believe.
If the MC and the rod were the problem all along, then I would suspect
overheating and/or wear damage to the throw out bearing and the clutch
pressure plate just like last time.
I do not see the need for a new slave.
Mike
>>>> Mike --
>>>> Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
>>>> to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
>>>> make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
>>>> during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
>>>> didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
>>>> manufacturing mine.
>>> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
>>> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>>> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>>
>> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
>> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
>> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
> switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
> be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
> actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
> will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
> throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
> Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
> just the MC?
>
The throw out bearing is not greaseable, it is a sealed bearing these
days I believe.
If the MC and the rod were the problem all along, then I would suspect
overheating and/or wear damage to the throw out bearing and the clutch
pressure plate just like last time.
I do not see the need for a new slave.
Mike
07-26-2007, 11:34 AM
#80
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Posts: n/a
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
>>>> Mike --
>>>> Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
>>>> to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
>>>> make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
>>>> during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
>>>> didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
>>>> manufacturing mine.
>>> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
>>> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>>> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>>
>> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
>> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
>> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
> switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
> be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
> actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
> will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
> throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
> Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
> just the MC?
>
The throw out bearing is not greaseable, it is a sealed bearing these
days I believe.
If the MC and the rod were the problem all along, then I would suspect
overheating and/or wear damage to the throw out bearing and the clutch
pressure plate just like last time.
I do not see the need for a new slave.
Mike
>>>> Mike --
>>>> Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything
>>>> to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and
>>>> make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured
>>>> during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they
>>>> didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to
>>>> manufacturing mine.
>>> Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is
>>> bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad.
>>> If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I thought maybe. THANKS!!
>>
>> I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it
>> in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all
>> the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OK....just to sum everything up -- if the 'push rods' and its sliding
> switch are bad and/or if the MC is bad, then those parts will need to
> be replaced AND the new parts that were just replaced (clutch
> actuator, hydraulics, release bearing, and clutch/pressure plate kit)
> will ALL need to be replaced again. Just for good measure, the
> throwout bearing should be greased as well. Am I missing anything?
> Do you think the slave cylinder would need to be replaced as well, or
> just the MC?
>
The throw out bearing is not greaseable, it is a sealed bearing these
days I believe.
If the MC and the rod were the problem all along, then I would suspect
overheating and/or wear damage to the throw out bearing and the clutch
pressure plate just like last time.
I do not see the need for a new slave.
Mike
