BULLFROG CLUTCH
07-24-2007, 10:20 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:44 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
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> > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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> >news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
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> > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge,
> > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I
> > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out
> > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they
> > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will
> > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another
> > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape
> > > they're in. Thanks for the information.
>
> > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like
> > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the
> > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat
> > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as
> > well and they never replaced it.
>
> So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it
> has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/
> slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would
> be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The
> dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was
> getting too hot.
>
> The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to
> work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one
> mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that
> funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway
> even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get
> to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)?- Hide quoted text -
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OK. Here is what I found out. The parts that were replaced are as
follows: clutch/pressure plate kit, hydraulic parts, clutch actuator,
and the release bearing. I don't know what any of this stuff is, so
hopefully someone can help me out. The man at the dealership I spoke
with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
THANKS
> On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
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> > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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> >news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
> > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge,
> > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I
> > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out
> > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they
> > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will
> > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another
> > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape
> > > they're in. Thanks for the information.
>
> > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like
> > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the
> > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat
> > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as
> > well and they never replaced it.
>
> So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it
> has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/
> slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would
> be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The
> dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was
> getting too hot.
>
> The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to
> work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one
> mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that
> funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway
> even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get
> to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
OK. Here is what I found out. The parts that were replaced are as
follows: clutch/pressure plate kit, hydraulic parts, clutch actuator,
and the release bearing. I don't know what any of this stuff is, so
hopefully someone can help me out. The man at the dealership I spoke
with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
THANKS
07-24-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-24-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-24-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-24-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> THANKS
>
That is likely the 'whole' problem....
A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-24-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
07-24-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
07-24-2007, 11:04 AM
#28
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
07-24-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
> The man at the dealership I spoke
>
> > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
> > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
> > THANKS
>
> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>
> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
to need to be replaced yet again?
07-24-2007, 02:08 PM
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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The man at the dealership I spoke
>>
>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
>>> THANKS
>> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>>
>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
> to need to be replaced yet again?
>
If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure.
TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the
strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter)
already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold
the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise.
Or the MC could be just bad...
Mike
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The man at the dealership I spoke
>>
>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but
>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon.
>>> THANKS
>> That is likely the 'whole' problem....
>>
>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to
>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the
>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts
> to need to be replaced yet again?
>
If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure.
TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the
strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter)
already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold
the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise.
Or the MC could be just bad...
Mike