Building a 'new' CJ7
07-27-2007, 06:58 PM
#21
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> Steve Foley wrote:
> > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> > start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> > I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> > Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> > Is anyone doing this?
Right now not many since convenience and do-it-for-me is king-hence
the '69 Camaros for Ferrari prices. When the stock market and consumer
credit crashes more will be amenable to this. Kit cars have become
nonexistent in the US, for example, but in England they are stilla
viable business. The Brits do not allow banks to finance bums and
expect to get paid.
But it's very possible. Two or three companies make aftermarket
frames and several others make aftermarket fiberglass or aluminum
bodies. Just buy one of each and add engine, trans, transfer case,
axles, driveshafts, wiring harness, springs, steering box, front end
parts, brakes, plumbing, fuel tank, and a few hundred little bits and
you are in business.
If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
you can get all the items used.
The key is to do it in a state where you can get a replica or street
rod title in the model year of the vehicle it is made to look like or
resemble. That way once titled with a state VIN and ID plate you can
go to any other state and it is a early model vehicle.
> Steve Foley wrote:
> > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> > start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> > I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> > Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> > Is anyone doing this?
Right now not many since convenience and do-it-for-me is king-hence
the '69 Camaros for Ferrari prices. When the stock market and consumer
credit crashes more will be amenable to this. Kit cars have become
nonexistent in the US, for example, but in England they are stilla
viable business. The Brits do not allow banks to finance bums and
expect to get paid.
But it's very possible. Two or three companies make aftermarket
frames and several others make aftermarket fiberglass or aluminum
bodies. Just buy one of each and add engine, trans, transfer case,
axles, driveshafts, wiring harness, springs, steering box, front end
parts, brakes, plumbing, fuel tank, and a few hundred little bits and
you are in business.
If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
you can get all the items used.
The key is to do it in a state where you can get a replica or street
rod title in the model year of the vehicle it is made to look like or
resemble. That way once titled with a state VIN and ID plate you can
go to any other state and it is a early model vehicle.
07-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
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DougW
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
07-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
07-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
07-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
RapidRonnie wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
> On Jul 27, 2:38 pm, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>> Steve Foley wrote:
>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building
>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000
>>> for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using
>>> the VIN and shell.
>>
>>> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much
>>> build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and
>>> others.
>>
>>> Is anyone doing this?
> If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because
> you can get all the items used.
I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off
rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the
nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse.
For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports
car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/
http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
--
DougW
07-27-2007, 08:17 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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07-27-2007, 08:17 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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07-27-2007, 08:17 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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07-27-2007, 08:17 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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> For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance
> sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one
> years insuance. :/
> http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-19...1-1075310.html
Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g>
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07-28-2007, 12:36 PM
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Re: Building a 'new' CJ7
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Steve Foley wrote:
> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> Is anyone doing this?
You mean apart from individuals like us?
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that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
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> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new'
> 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They
> start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell.
>
> I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a
> Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others.
>
> Is anyone doing this?
You mean apart from individuals like us?
--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.