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L.W.(=?UTF-8?B?w59pbGw=?=) Hughes III 09-09-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
Earle's is still on Colorado time (-6:00) while posting from Spain,
that's plus one hour from Grenage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Earl, your date or time zone is way off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


L.W.(=?UTF-8?B?w59pbGw=?=) Hughes III 09-09-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
Earle's is still on Colorado time (-6:00) while posting from Spain,
that's plus one hour from Grenage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Earl, your date or time zone is way off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


L.W.(=?UTF-8?B?w59pbGw=?=) Hughes III 09-09-2005 04:34 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
Earle's is still on Colorado time (-6:00) while posting from Spain,
that's plus one hour from Grenage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Earl, your date or time zone is way off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Earle Horton 09-09-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
small to my way of thinking.

Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.

Earle

"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.

So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand

Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style

rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The

Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind

like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ

to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the

day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my

comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of

death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>




Earle Horton 09-09-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
small to my way of thinking.

Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.

Earle

"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.

So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand

Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style

rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The

Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind

like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ

to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the

day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my

comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of

death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>




Earle Horton 09-09-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
small to my way of thinking.

Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.

Earle

"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.

So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand

Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style

rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The

Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind

like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ

to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the

day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my

comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of

death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>




Earle Horton 09-09-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
small to my way of thinking.

Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.

Earle

"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.

So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand

Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style

rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The

Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind

like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ

to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the

day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my

comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of

death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>




Dean 09-09-2005 11:18 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
Jeff,

Your setup pretty close to what I'm looking at for myself. Including it being
my wife's daily driver. <lol>

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg

I take it that you've not towed anything with your Grand? There's a lifted one
for sale down the street that I'm going to check out this weekend. Maybe
they'll let me take it for an "extended" test drive.

Dean



On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:54:47 GMT, "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote:

>Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
>with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
>The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
>coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
>Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
>track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
>The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
>driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
>it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
>road she ROCKS!
>Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
>my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
>husbands Jeep" lol
>There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.
>
>Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com.. .
>> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
>> So, with
>> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
>> Cherokee
>> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
>> rock
>> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
>> Grand
>> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
>> like
>> this.
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>>
>> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
>> to the
>> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
>> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
>> day
>> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>>
>> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
>> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
>> comfort, I
>> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
>> death
>> trap.
>>
>> Dean
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>>

>



Dean 09-09-2005 11:18 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
Jeff,

Your setup pretty close to what I'm looking at for myself. Including it being
my wife's daily driver. <lol>

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg

I take it that you've not towed anything with your Grand? There's a lifted one
for sale down the street that I'm going to check out this weekend. Maybe
they'll let me take it for an "extended" test drive.

Dean



On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:54:47 GMT, "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote:

>Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
>with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
>The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
>coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
>Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
>track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
>The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
>driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
>it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
>road she ROCKS!
>Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
>my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
>husbands Jeep" lol
>There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.
>
>Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com.. .
>> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
>> So, with
>> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
>> Cherokee
>> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
>> rock
>> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
>> Grand
>> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
>> like
>> this.
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>>
>> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
>> to the
>> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
>> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
>> day
>> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>>
>> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
>> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
>> comfort, I
>> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
>> death
>> trap.
>>
>> Dean
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>>

>



Dean 09-09-2005 11:18 PM

Re: Building a Grand Cherokee and other ??
 
Jeff,

Your setup pretty close to what I'm looking at for myself. Including it being
my wife's daily driver. <lol>

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg

I take it that you've not towed anything with your Grand? There's a lifted one
for sale down the street that I'm going to check out this weekend. Maybe
they'll let me take it for an "extended" test drive.

Dean



On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:54:47 GMT, "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote:

>Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
>with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
>The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
>coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
>Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
>track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
>The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
>driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
>it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
>road she ROCKS!
>Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
>my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
>husbands Jeep" lol
>There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.
>
>Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
>http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com.. .
>> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
>> So, with
>> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
>> Cherokee
>> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
>> rock
>> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
>> Grand
>> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
>> like
>> this.
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>>
>> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
>> to the
>> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
>> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
>> day
>> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>>
>> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
>> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
>> comfort, I
>> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
>> death
>> trap.
>>
>> Dean
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>>

>




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