Dean

OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort. So, with
that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand Cherokee
to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style rock
crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The Grand
also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind like
this.

http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg

Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ to the
trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the day
everything is reversed for the trip back home.

Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my comfort, I
like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of death
trap.

Dean
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

4X4PLAY

Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
road she ROCKS!
Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
husbands Jeep" lol
There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.

Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg







"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>

4X4PLAY

Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
road she ROCKS!
Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
husbands Jeep" lol
There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.

Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg







"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>

4X4PLAY

Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
road she ROCKS!
Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
husbands Jeep" lol
There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.

Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg







"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>

4X4PLAY

Hey Dean...I have a lifted ZJ 4.0 on 31's and I don't think I'd want to tow
with it unless it's a V8 Grand especially when it comes to hills...
The build consists of....BDS Upper and lower adjustable control arms, Front
coils moved to the rear and replaced with 4" Rockkrawler coils, 4" Skyjacker
Nitro shocks, BDS rear track bar relocator, Rockkrawler adjustable front
track bar and the new design 31" Cooper STT's
The Grand is a very sweet ride around town and on the hwy(wifes daily
driver)...other than the stiffer suspension, I would have to say I preffer
it now over stock for ride, she tends to be a lot more responsive....and off
road she ROCKS!
Grands are sooo hot lifted and even hotter with a pretty lady driving! ;)
my wife now wants a decal for the back window that says "This is NOT my
husbands Jeep" lol
There's a pic of the ZJ in my sig.

Jeff '03 TJ & '95 ZJ
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/554/gardenpic0lh.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8108/p10100029du.jpg







"Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> this.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
>
> Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> everything is reversed for the trip back home.
>
> Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> trap.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
>

Mike Romain

Earl, your date or time zone is way off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
> Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
> and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
> speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
> too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
> small to my way of thinking.
>
> Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
> tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> > OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> > that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> > to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> > crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> > also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> > this.
> >
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
> >
> > Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> > trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> > disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> > everything is reversed for the trip back home.
> >
> > Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> > towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> > like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> > trap.
> >
> > Dean
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
> >

Mike Romain

Earl, your date or time zone is way off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
> Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
> and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
> speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
> too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
> small to my way of thinking.
>
> Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
> tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> > OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> > that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> > to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> > crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> > also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> > this.
> >
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
> >
> > Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> > trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> > disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> > everything is reversed for the trip back home.
> >
> > Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> > towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> > like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> > trap.
> >
> > Dean
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
> >

Mike Romain

Earl, your date or time zone is way off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
> Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
> and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
> speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
> too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
> small to my way of thinking.
>
> Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
> tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> > OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> > that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> > to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> > crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> > also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> > this.
> >
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
> >
> > Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> > trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> > disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> > everything is reversed for the trip back home.
> >
> > Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> > towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> > like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> > trap.
> >
> > Dean
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
> >

Mike Romain

Earl, your date or time zone is way off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> My personal preference is a three quarter ton full size vehicle, like the
> Suburban I use, to tow a Jeep. Go for heavy duty road tires, suspension,
> and brakes. That way you can control the beast when you have to make a high
> speed evasive maneuver towing the TJ. It happens. In my opinion, a GC is
> too small. By the way, that is an Expedition in your picture. Still too
> small to my way of thinking.
>
> Do you tow anything else, or might you in the future? If you ever want to
> tow horses, the bigger the tow vehicle the better.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dean" <no.email@papernapkin.net> wrote in message
> news:28u1i195jg636t11al597ongrvki270bsa@4ax.com...
> > OK, let's get this out of the way right up front <g> I like my comfort.
> So, with
> > that said I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to build a Grand
> Cherokee
> > to do a good job around town, on the freeway and off road on Moab style
> rock
> > crawling, say 3+ to 4 rated trails. But wait that's not all! <lol> The
> Grand
> > also needs to be the tow vehicle for my TJ. I've got something in mind
> like
> > this.
> >
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/Ready2Go.jpg
> >
> > Only with a trail capable vehicle in the lead. So the Grand pulls the TJ
> to the
> > trailhead, the two vehicles are separated, tires aired down, sway bars
> > disconnected and then both go up the trail together. At the end of the
> day
> > everything is reversed for the trip back home.
> >
> > Is this even possible? Is the Grand up to this sort of use and what about
> > towing a heavy lifted TJ with a lifted Grand. Even though I like my
> comfort, I
> > like my life even better so I'm not interested in building some sort of
> death
> > trap.
> >
> > Dean
> > http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/
> >

L.W.(=?UTF-8?B?w59pbGw=?=) Hughes III

Earle's is still on Colorado time (-6:00) while posting from Spain,
that's plus one hour from Grenage.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Earl, your date or time zone is way off.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's