brakes
03-24-2007, 11:31 AM
#11
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Re: brakes
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn
> the rotators this early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
pulsating as in ABS kicking on, or pulsating as in drag/release/drag/release?
If it's ABS then have them check the front sensors, one is either out of
range or close to it.
If it's drag/release (warped rotor) then it may be a MFG defect. Long as
your under waranty I'd have them diagnose it.
If the finding is warped rotor, and you have to go out of pocket to fix it,
your better off buying new rotors and installing them yourself. It's not
a hard job. Basically, if you can change a tire you can replace a rotor.
It's just two more bolts.
--
DougW
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn
> the rotators this early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
pulsating as in ABS kicking on, or pulsating as in drag/release/drag/release?
If it's ABS then have them check the front sensors, one is either out of
range or close to it.
If it's drag/release (warped rotor) then it may be a MFG defect. Long as
your under waranty I'd have them diagnose it.
If the finding is warped rotor, and you have to go out of pocket to fix it,
your better off buying new rotors and installing them yourself. It's not
a hard job. Basically, if you can change a tire you can replace a rotor.
It's just two more bolts.
--
DougW
03-24-2007, 11:31 AM
#12
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Re: brakes
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn
> the rotators this early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
pulsating as in ABS kicking on, or pulsating as in drag/release/drag/release?
If it's ABS then have them check the front sensors, one is either out of
range or close to it.
If it's drag/release (warped rotor) then it may be a MFG defect. Long as
your under waranty I'd have them diagnose it.
If the finding is warped rotor, and you have to go out of pocket to fix it,
your better off buying new rotors and installing them yourself. It's not
a hard job. Basically, if you can change a tire you can replace a rotor.
It's just two more bolts.
--
DougW
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn
> the rotators this early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
pulsating as in ABS kicking on, or pulsating as in drag/release/drag/release?
If it's ABS then have them check the front sensors, one is either out of
range or close to it.
If it's drag/release (warped rotor) then it may be a MFG defect. Long as
your under waranty I'd have them diagnose it.
If the finding is warped rotor, and you have to go out of pocket to fix it,
your better off buying new rotors and installing them yourself. It's not
a hard job. Basically, if you can change a tire you can replace a rotor.
It's just two more bolts.
--
DougW
03-24-2007, 11:31 AM
#13
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Re: brakes
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn
> the rotators this early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
pulsating as in ABS kicking on, or pulsating as in drag/release/drag/release?
If it's ABS then have them check the front sensors, one is either out of
range or close to it.
If it's drag/release (warped rotor) then it may be a MFG defect. Long as
your under waranty I'd have them diagnose it.
If the finding is warped rotor, and you have to go out of pocket to fix it,
your better off buying new rotors and installing them yourself. It's not
a hard job. Basically, if you can change a tire you can replace a rotor.
It's just two more bolts.
--
DougW
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn
> the rotators this early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
pulsating as in ABS kicking on, or pulsating as in drag/release/drag/release?
If it's ABS then have them check the front sensors, one is either out of
range or close to it.
If it's drag/release (warped rotor) then it may be a MFG defect. Long as
your under waranty I'd have them diagnose it.
If the finding is warped rotor, and you have to go out of pocket to fix it,
your better off buying new rotors and installing them yourself. It's not
a hard job. Basically, if you can change a tire you can replace a rotor.
It's just two more bolts.
--
DougW
03-24-2007, 12:18 PM
#14
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Re: brakes
5000 miles is obviously too early to be having to deal with problems
like this. But your dealer will tell you that rotors are 'wear items',
not covered under warranty. but it is worth a try to see if they will
cover it.
I would not turn a warped rotor. Every time I have tried it, I get only
few miles before it reoccurrs and it's off to get a new one. Say what
you will, the aftermarket cast rotors can be had for not much more than
turning.
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating
> ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators this
> early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
>
>
like this. But your dealer will tell you that rotors are 'wear items',
not covered under warranty. but it is worth a try to see if they will
cover it.
I would not turn a warped rotor. Every time I have tried it, I get only
few miles before it reoccurrs and it's off to get a new one. Say what
you will, the aftermarket cast rotors can be had for not much more than
turning.
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating
> ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators this
> early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
>
>
03-24-2007, 12:18 PM
#15
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Re: brakes
5000 miles is obviously too early to be having to deal with problems
like this. But your dealer will tell you that rotors are 'wear items',
not covered under warranty. but it is worth a try to see if they will
cover it.
I would not turn a warped rotor. Every time I have tried it, I get only
few miles before it reoccurrs and it's off to get a new one. Say what
you will, the aftermarket cast rotors can be had for not much more than
turning.
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating
> ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators this
> early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
>
>
like this. But your dealer will tell you that rotors are 'wear items',
not covered under warranty. but it is worth a try to see if they will
cover it.
I would not turn a warped rotor. Every time I have tried it, I get only
few miles before it reoccurrs and it's off to get a new one. Say what
you will, the aftermarket cast rotors can be had for not much more than
turning.
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating
> ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators this
> early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
>
>
03-24-2007, 12:18 PM
#16
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Re: brakes
5000 miles is obviously too early to be having to deal with problems
like this. But your dealer will tell you that rotors are 'wear items',
not covered under warranty. but it is worth a try to see if they will
cover it.
I would not turn a warped rotor. Every time I have tried it, I get only
few miles before it reoccurrs and it's off to get a new one. Say what
you will, the aftermarket cast rotors can be had for not much more than
turning.
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating
> ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators this
> early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
>
>
like this. But your dealer will tell you that rotors are 'wear items',
not covered under warranty. but it is worth a try to see if they will
cover it.
I would not turn a warped rotor. Every time I have tried it, I get only
few miles before it reoccurrs and it's off to get a new one. Say what
you will, the aftermarket cast rotors can be had for not much more than
turning.
lurk wrote:
> my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are pulsating
> ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators this
> early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
>
>
03-24-2007, 03:01 PM
#17
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Re: brakes
I agree that it is extremely common, but not that it is "caused" by the
impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new rotors, and
they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone "lifetime" pads. I
put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of course. Maybe I drove the
vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop or two, but what the hell are you
supposed to do?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> lurk wrote:
> > my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are
pulsating
> > ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators
this
> > early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
> >
> >
>
> This is extremely common and is normally caused by putting the tires on
> with an impact gun. They are supposed to be finished up with a torque
> wrench.
>
> You can buy torque wrenches for under $30.00 that are good for finishing
> wheel lug nuts or making sure the tire change ****** aren't trying to
> sucker you.
>
> It would seem one of the latest scams by some $tealerships is to get you
> in for a 'free' tire rotation, hammer the wheels on with an impact gun
> and sucker you for a brake job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new rotors, and
they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone "lifetime" pads. I
put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of course. Maybe I drove the
vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop or two, but what the hell are you
supposed to do?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> lurk wrote:
> > my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are
pulsating
> > ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators
this
> > early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
> >
> >
>
> This is extremely common and is normally caused by putting the tires on
> with an impact gun. They are supposed to be finished up with a torque
> wrench.
>
> You can buy torque wrenches for under $30.00 that are good for finishing
> wheel lug nuts or making sure the tire change ****** aren't trying to
> sucker you.
>
> It would seem one of the latest scams by some $tealerships is to get you
> in for a 'free' tire rotation, hammer the wheels on with an impact gun
> and sucker you for a brake job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-24-2007, 03:01 PM
#18
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Re: brakes
I agree that it is extremely common, but not that it is "caused" by the
impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new rotors, and
they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone "lifetime" pads. I
put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of course. Maybe I drove the
vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop or two, but what the hell are you
supposed to do?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46053bc8$0$6604$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lurk wrote:
> > my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are
pulsating
> > ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators
this
> > early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
> >
> >
>
> This is extremely common and is normally caused by putting the tires on
> with an impact gun. They are supposed to be finished up with a torque
> wrench.
>
> You can buy torque wrenches for under $30.00 that are good for finishing
> wheel lug nuts or making sure the tire change ****** aren't trying to
> sucker you.
>
> It would seem one of the latest scams by some $tealerships is to get you
> in for a 'free' tire rotation, hammer the wheels on with an impact gun
> and sucker you for a brake job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new rotors, and
they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone "lifetime" pads. I
put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of course. Maybe I drove the
vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop or two, but what the hell are you
supposed to do?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46053bc8$0$6604$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lurk wrote:
> > my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are
pulsating
> > ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators
this
> > early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
> >
> >
>
> This is extremely common and is normally caused by putting the tires on
> with an impact gun. They are supposed to be finished up with a torque
> wrench.
>
> You can buy torque wrenches for under $30.00 that are good for finishing
> wheel lug nuts or making sure the tire change ****** aren't trying to
> sucker you.
>
> It would seem one of the latest scams by some $tealerships is to get you
> in for a 'free' tire rotation, hammer the wheels on with an impact gun
> and sucker you for a brake job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-24-2007, 03:01 PM
#19
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Re: brakes
I agree that it is extremely common, but not that it is "caused" by the
impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new rotors, and
they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone "lifetime" pads. I
put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of course. Maybe I drove the
vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop or two, but what the hell are you
supposed to do?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46053bc8$0$6604$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lurk wrote:
> > my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are
pulsating
> > ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators
this
> > early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
> >
> >
>
> This is extremely common and is normally caused by putting the tires on
> with an impact gun. They are supposed to be finished up with a torque
> wrench.
>
> You can buy torque wrenches for under $30.00 that are good for finishing
> wheel lug nuts or making sure the tire change ****** aren't trying to
> sucker you.
>
> It would seem one of the latest scams by some $tealerships is to get you
> in for a 'free' tire rotation, hammer the wheels on with an impact gun
> and sucker you for a brake job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new rotors, and
they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone "lifetime" pads. I
put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of course. Maybe I drove the
vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop or two, but what the hell are you
supposed to do?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46053bc8$0$6604$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lurk wrote:
> > my '06 tj with 5000 miles on it .....and the brakes are
pulsating
> > ......is this a common problem .....don't want to turn the rotators
this
> > early.....maybe its under a recall or warranty thanks
> >
> >
>
> This is extremely common and is normally caused by putting the tires on
> with an impact gun. They are supposed to be finished up with a torque
> wrench.
>
> You can buy torque wrenches for under $30.00 that are good for finishing
> wheel lug nuts or making sure the tire change ****** aren't trying to
> sucker you.
>
> It would seem one of the latest scams by some $tealerships is to get you
> in for a 'free' tire rotation, hammer the wheels on with an impact gun
> and sucker you for a brake job.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-24-2007, 03:10 PM
#20
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Re: brakes
Earle Horton wrote:
> I agree that it is extremely common, but not that it is "caused" by
> the impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new
> rotors, and they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone
> "lifetime" pads. I put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of
> course. Maybe I drove the vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop
> or two, but what the hell are you supposed to do?
proper brake-in (pun intended) is key to long brake life.
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml
The procedure is basically a series of increasingly quicker
stops from increasing speed, followed by a drive to allow the
disc to cool.
What you want to avoid with new brakes is to run hard, stop
hard, then sit there at the light with your foot on the brake.
That traps a lot of heat under the pad and will start the
warping process.
--
DougW
> I agree that it is extremely common, but not that it is "caused" by
> the impact gun. I have barely six thousand miles on a set of new
> rotors, and they are already pulsating a bit, along with Autozone
> "lifetime" pads. I put the wheels on with a torque wrench, of
> course. Maybe I drove the vehicle in the rain, or made a panic stop
> or two, but what the hell are you supposed to do?
proper brake-in (pun intended) is key to long brake life.
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml
The procedure is basically a series of increasingly quicker
stops from increasing speed, followed by a drive to allow the
disc to cool.
What you want to avoid with new brakes is to run hard, stop
hard, then sit there at the light with your foot on the brake.
That traps a lot of heat under the pad and will start the
warping process.
--
DougW