Brakes
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Brakes
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
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JPribe
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mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
98 TJ
MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
JPribe 'at' nc 'dot' rr ''dot com
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety, written
by the wisest of mules.
http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
JEGP
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NC, USA
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Re: Brakes
JPribe,
Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
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Re: Brakes
JPribe,
Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
#4
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Re: Brakes
JPribe,
Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....
--
JPribe
JEGP
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Re: Brakes
JPribe wrote:
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
> front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
> pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....
>
No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.
John
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
> front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
> pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....
>
No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.
John
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Re: Brakes
JPribe wrote:
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
> front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
> pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....
>
No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.
John
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
> front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
> pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....
>
No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.
John
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Re: Brakes
JPribe wrote:
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
> front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
> pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....
>
No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.
John
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
> front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
> pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....
>
No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.
John
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Re: Brakes
JohnM wrote:
> JPribe wrote:
>
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
>> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed
>> out front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that
>> matches pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was
>> blued, so I will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will
>> be crossing my fingers....
>>
> No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
>
> Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
> a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
> it's doing its job correctly too.
>
> John
I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.
One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.
Just my experience.
DAve
> JPribe wrote:
>
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
>> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed
>> out front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that
>> matches pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was
>> blued, so I will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will
>> be crossing my fingers....
>>
> No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
>
> Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
> a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
> it's doing its job correctly too.
>
> John
I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.
One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.
Just my experience.
DAve
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Re: Brakes
JohnM wrote:
> JPribe wrote:
>
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
>> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed
>> out front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that
>> matches pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was
>> blued, so I will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will
>> be crossing my fingers....
>>
> No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
>
> Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
> a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
> it's doing its job correctly too.
>
> John
I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.
One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.
Just my experience.
DAve
> JPribe wrote:
>
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
>> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed
>> out front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that
>> matches pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was
>> blued, so I will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will
>> be crossing my fingers....
>>
> No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
>
> Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
> a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
> it's doing its job correctly too.
>
> John
I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.
One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.
Just my experience.
DAve
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Re: Brakes
JohnM wrote:
> JPribe wrote:
>
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
>> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed
>> out front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that
>> matches pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was
>> blued, so I will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will
>> be crossing my fingers....
>>
> No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
>
> Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
> a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
> it's doing its job correctly too.
>
> John
I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.
One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.
Just my experience.
DAve
> JPribe wrote:
>
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit. Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
>> were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed
>> out front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that
>> matches pressure to the pedal. As an aside, my front left rotor was
>> blued, so I will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will
>> be crossing my fingers....
>>
> No, drums should not drag even a little bit.
>
> Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
> a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
> it's doing its job correctly too.
>
> John
I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.
One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.
Just my experience.
DAve