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Nathan Otis 02-27-2004 11:25 PM

Bored throttle body
 
Hey all,

I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:

Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
I'm not thinking of?

Thanks,
n.



Nathan Otis 02-27-2004 11:44 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth
n.

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:oLU%b.32698$AL.675692@attbi_s03...
> Hey all,
>
> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
> I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks,
> n.
>
>




Nathan Otis 02-27-2004 11:44 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth
n.

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:oLU%b.32698$AL.675692@attbi_s03...
> Hey all,
>
> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
> I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks,
> n.
>
>




Nathan Otis 02-27-2004 11:44 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth
n.

"Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net> wrote in message
news:oLU%b.32698$AL.675692@attbi_s03...
> Hey all,
>
> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
> I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks,
> n.
>
>




DougW 02-28-2004 12:32 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> "Nathan Otis" wrote...
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
>> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>>
>> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
>> I'm not thinking of?


> 2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth


Nope, you should be fine.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



DougW 02-28-2004 12:32 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> "Nathan Otis" wrote...
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
>> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>>
>> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
>> I'm not thinking of?


> 2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth


Nope, you should be fine.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



DougW 02-28-2004 12:32 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> "Nathan Otis" wrote...
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
>> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>>
>> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
>> I'm not thinking of?


> 2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth


Nope, you should be fine.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



Carlo 02-28-2004 12:46 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
don't forget the pictures........

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6KV%b.14733$1k.12770@okepread01...
> Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> > "Nathan Otis" wrote...
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> >> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
> >>
> >> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious

that
> >> I'm not thinking of?

>
> > 2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth

>
> Nope, you should be fine.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>
>




Carlo 02-28-2004 12:46 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
don't forget the pictures........

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6KV%b.14733$1k.12770@okepread01...
> Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> > "Nathan Otis" wrote...
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> >> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
> >>
> >> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious

that
> >> I'm not thinking of?

>
> > 2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth

>
> Nope, you should be fine.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>
>




Carlo 02-28-2004 12:46 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
don't forget the pictures........

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:6KV%b.14733$1k.12770@okepread01...
> Nathan Otis did pass the time by typing:
> > "Nathan Otis" wrote...
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> >> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
> >>
> >> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious

that
> >> I'm not thinking of?

>
> > 2003 TJ, I-6. For what it's worth

>
> Nope, you should be fine.
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>
>




Mike Romain 02-28-2004 09:27 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
There is some guy over on alt.jeep-l I think that has been trying to
unload one of those for a while now.

I have seen a few for sale, so many it implies the mod doesn't work for
---- so people try it then realize they have ruined a TB so they try to
find some other sucker to buy it when they go back to stock.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
> I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks,
> n.


Mike Romain 02-28-2004 09:27 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
There is some guy over on alt.jeep-l I think that has been trying to
unload one of those for a while now.

I have seen a few for sale, so many it implies the mod doesn't work for
---- so people try it then realize they have ruined a TB so they try to
find some other sucker to buy it when they go back to stock.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
> I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks,
> n.


Mike Romain 02-28-2004 09:27 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
There is some guy over on alt.jeep-l I think that has been trying to
unload one of those for a while now.

I have seen a few for sale, so many it implies the mod doesn't work for
---- so people try it then realize they have ruined a TB so they try to
find some other sucker to buy it when they go back to stock.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
> butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
> Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
> I'm not thinking of?
>
> Thanks,
> n.


DougW 02-28-2004 10:05 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> There is some guy over on alt.jeep-l I think that has been trying to
> unload one of those for a while now.
>
> I have seen a few for sale, so many it implies the mod doesn't work for
> ---- so people try it then realize they have ruined a TB so they try to
> find some other sucker to buy it when they go back to stock.


The thing about that mod is some folks with 4bangers try a bored over
4.0 throttle body. That only winds up causing a real touchy pedal
with a huge flatspot at the top.

Basically you can't flow any more air than the engine will use and
if you reduce restrictions in the intake you need to do the same to
the exhaust. It's valid but usually paired with engine mods that
require more air, like super/turbocharging or stroking.

--
DougW



DougW 02-28-2004 10:05 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> There is some guy over on alt.jeep-l I think that has been trying to
> unload one of those for a while now.
>
> I have seen a few for sale, so many it implies the mod doesn't work for
> ---- so people try it then realize they have ruined a TB so they try to
> find some other sucker to buy it when they go back to stock.


The thing about that mod is some folks with 4bangers try a bored over
4.0 throttle body. That only winds up causing a real touchy pedal
with a huge flatspot at the top.

Basically you can't flow any more air than the engine will use and
if you reduce restrictions in the intake you need to do the same to
the exhaust. It's valid but usually paired with engine mods that
require more air, like super/turbocharging or stroking.

--
DougW



DougW 02-28-2004 10:05 AM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> There is some guy over on alt.jeep-l I think that has been trying to
> unload one of those for a while now.
>
> I have seen a few for sale, so many it implies the mod doesn't work for
> ---- so people try it then realize they have ruined a TB so they try to
> find some other sucker to buy it when they go back to stock.


The thing about that mod is some folks with 4bangers try a bored over
4.0 throttle body. That only winds up causing a real touchy pedal
with a huge flatspot at the top.

Basically you can't flow any more air than the engine will use and
if you reduce restrictions in the intake you need to do the same to
the exhaust. It's valid but usually paired with engine mods that
require more air, like super/turbocharging or stroking.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-28-2004 03:22 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Hi Doug,
With carburetors when we increase the venturi area, we must
increase the jet size, I would be surprised if the computer could
compensate without being reprogramed. Your admission of a dead spot
tells me the stock injectors and computer can't handle less vacuum.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> The thing about that mod is some folks with 4bangers try a bored over
> 4.0 throttle body. That only winds up causing a real touchy pedal
> with a huge flatspot at the top.
>
> Basically you can't flow any more air than the engine will use and
> if you reduce restrictions in the intake you need to do the same to
> the exhaust. It's valid but usually paired with engine mods that
> require more air, like super/turbocharging or stroking.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-28-2004 03:22 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Hi Doug,
With carburetors when we increase the venturi area, we must
increase the jet size, I would be surprised if the computer could
compensate without being reprogramed. Your admission of a dead spot
tells me the stock injectors and computer can't handle less vacuum.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> The thing about that mod is some folks with 4bangers try a bored over
> 4.0 throttle body. That only winds up causing a real touchy pedal
> with a huge flatspot at the top.
>
> Basically you can't flow any more air than the engine will use and
> if you reduce restrictions in the intake you need to do the same to
> the exhaust. It's valid but usually paired with engine mods that
> require more air, like super/turbocharging or stroking.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-28-2004 03:22 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
Hi Doug,
With carburetors when we increase the venturi area, we must
increase the jet size, I would be surprised if the computer could
compensate without being reprogramed. Your admission of a dead spot
tells me the stock injectors and computer can't handle less vacuum.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> The thing about that mod is some folks with 4bangers try a bored over
> 4.0 throttle body. That only winds up causing a real touchy pedal
> with a huge flatspot at the top.
>
> Basically you can't flow any more air than the engine will use and
> if you reduce restrictions in the intake you need to do the same to
> the exhaust. It's valid but usually paired with engine mods that
> require more air, like super/turbocharging or stroking.
>
> --
> DougW


bllsht 02-28-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
In message <oLU%b.32698$AL.675692@attbi_s03>, "Nathan Otis" wrote:

>Hey all,
>
>I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
>butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
>Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
>I'm not thinking of?


Yes, you're wasting your time and money.

>
>Thanks,
>n.
>



bllsht 02-28-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
In message <oLU%b.32698$AL.675692@attbi_s03>, "Nathan Otis" wrote:

>Hey all,
>
>I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
>butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
>Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
>I'm not thinking of?


Yes, you're wasting your time and money.

>
>Thanks,
>n.
>



bllsht 02-28-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Bored throttle body
 
In message <oLU%b.32698$AL.675692@attbi_s03>, "Nathan Otis" wrote:

>Hey all,
>
>I'm going to be boring my throttle body to 62mm. I have a source for a
>butterfly and a throttle plate so that's not a concern. My question:
>
>Am I going to need a MAP sensor upgrade or anything? Anything obvious that
>I'm not thinking of?


Yes, you're wasting your time and money.

>
>Thanks,
>n.
>




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