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Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
The Only Book of its type,Useful for older swaps
Surprisingly, this text by Paul Dempsey-whose other works for the often-dismal TAB imprint are actually very good-is the only extant text on installing a diesel engine in an automobile or light truck (which was not originally so constructed.) Because of the current dearth of diesel passenger cars and under-3/4 ton trucks on the US market, and the fact that all new diesels are electronically controlled, a diesel swap using an older-style diesel engine will appeal to a certain group of people. Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, important to off-roaders venturing far from civilization, and to "survivalists" worried about nuclear war or government pulse generators disabling the electronics of all car engines. More conventional users simply like the simplicity of diesel engines and their inherent higher efficiency than spark-ignition engines. This book was written in 1978, and is therefore of limited usefulnes with specifics on engines built in the last quarter-century, although some of the engines he discusses are still readily available. The SD22,25, and 33 Nissans can be found by searching, a plethora of mechanical Isuzu and Mits engines are out there, and for the masochistic or "Urban Cowboy revivalist" there is no shortage of 53 Series Detroit cores out there. No one will look seriously at the 350 Olds engine anymore (except for blocks and cranks to build 350 gas drag engines out of), but various VW inline fours are now powering Suzukis. Most of the issues involved in planning and executing a diesel swap are not peculiar to diesels, and engine swaps in later-model vehicles have gottten more and more complicated, but they're still done. At the outset, Dempsey warns readers that he does not cover or recommend swaps in front-wheel-drive or rear engine vehicles. At the time the book was written, FWD vehicles were a small segment of the market: they now comprise most vehicles on the road. If you have thought about keeping an old full-size car on the road despite today's gas prices (and are willing to spend the time and money) or are interested in alternate fuels, particularly biodiesel, this book still makes a good read. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:30:22 -0700, Paul wrote:
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no putt-putt. -- -bob- _______________________________________ SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:30:22 -0700, Paul wrote:
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no putt-putt. -- -bob- _______________________________________ SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:30:22 -0700, Paul wrote:
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no putt-putt. -- -bob- _______________________________________ SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:30:22 -0700, Paul wrote:
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no putt-putt. -- -bob- _______________________________________ SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the
key. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > putt-putt. > > -- > > -bob- > _______________________________________ > SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the
key. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > putt-putt. > > -- > > -bob- > _______________________________________ > SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the
key. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > putt-putt. > > -- > > -bob- > _______________________________________ > SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the
key. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > putt-putt. > > -- > > -bob- > _______________________________________ > SuSE Linux Pro 9.1 |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40D7815E.9EB03A62@cox.net>...
> Fuel shut off, otherwise it would keep running after you pulled the > key. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "F. Robert Falbo" wrote: > > > > Well, yes, and no. Even mechanical diesel engines are controlled by an > > interlocking electric fuel solenoid. My 1981 had one. No electrics, no > > putt-putt. Usually this can be either manually secured (Cummins) or you can rig it to shutdown on power applied instead of removed, or replace it with a manual lever. Older MBZ had a manual four position knob, which can be backadapted to later Bosch pump engines. VW has an internal solenoid but it can be removed without major pump disassembly, or if you are replacing pump, use one with an external lever. Good injection pump shops can do some really neat stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
oatteaseffen@hotmail.com (Paul) wrote in message news:<462bba80.0406191930.3acca050@posting.google. com>...
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, ..... Stanleys? Steam locomotives?* http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
oatteaseffen@hotmail.com (Paul) wrote in message news:<462bba80.0406191930.3acca050@posting.google. com>...
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, ..... Stanleys? Steam locomotives?* http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
oatteaseffen@hotmail.com (Paul) wrote in message news:<462bba80.0406191930.3acca050@posting.google. com>...
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, ..... Stanleys? Steam locomotives?* http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
oatteaseffen@hotmail.com (Paul) wrote in message news:<462bba80.0406191930.3acca050@posting.google. com>...
> Mechanically controlled diesel engines, along with gas turbines, are > unique in that they will run with no electrical system once started, ..... Stanleys? Steam locomotives?* http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
> Stanleys? Steam locomotives?*
> > http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ > > *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to > provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
> Stanleys? Steam locomotives?*
> > http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ > > *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to > provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
> Stanleys? Steam locomotives?*
> > http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ > > *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to > provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
> Stanleys? Steam locomotives?*
> > http://www.stanleysteamers.com/ > > *Note that later steam locomotives did have steam turbogenerators to > provide electricity for the headlights, cab lights, and radios. Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ted Azito wrote: > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ted Azito wrote: > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ted Azito wrote: > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Ted Azito wrote: > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Some are oil fired..
http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40D9F6E8.CFAE7988@cox.net... > That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Ted Azito wrote: > > > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Some are oil fired..
http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40D9F6E8.CFAE7988@cox.net... > That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Ted Azito wrote: > > > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Some are oil fired..
http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40D9F6E8.CFAE7988@cox.net... > That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Ted Azito wrote: > > > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Some are oil fired..
http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40D9F6E8.CFAE7988@cox.net... > That's why all our power plants burn diesel. <ROTFLMAO> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Ted Azito wrote: > > > > Indeed at the end of the Steam Era they were experimenting with > > electronically controlling valves and collier feedscrew drives. But > > steam cars are not really feasible, besides the cost and complication > > (see Doble) they are inherently inefficient of fuel. This, and their > > high maintenance, is why diesel-electric completely replaced them in > > about a ten year period. Diesels are the most thermally efficient > > engines there are. Gas turbines can compete only in complex fixed > > cycle service, and heavy diesels can burn fuels (Bunker C) which > > turbines have a lot of problems with. Railroads experimented with > > closed cycle steam turbines, and aeroderivative gas turbines, and > > found both to be a lot more work than diesel-electric. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Ted, was trying to tell me diesel was more efficient.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Some are oil fired.. > http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Ted, was trying to tell me diesel was more efficient.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Some are oil fired.. > http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Ted, was trying to tell me diesel was more efficient.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Some are oil fired.. > http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel,Dempsey
Ted, was trying to tell me diesel was more efficient.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Some are oil fired.. > http://www.dom.com/about/stations/fo...ssum_point.jsp > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in Europe. A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in Europe. A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff. |
Re: Book Review: How to convert your car, van, or pickup to diesel ,Dempsey
Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in Europe. A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff. |
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