body lift for cherokee?
06-07-2004, 06:03 PM
#31
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
One has spring over and one spring under even.
But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea
One has spring over and one spring under even.
But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea
06-07-2004, 06:03 PM
#32
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
One has spring over and one spring under even.
But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea
One has spring over and one spring under even.
But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea
06-07-2004, 06:03 PM
#33
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
One has spring over and one spring under even.
But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea
One has spring over and one spring under even.
But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea
06-07-2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Hmm, no body lift? Well, I could sell it and put the $ into a nice CJ - but
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
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www.rcparkflyers.com
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"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
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> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
HomeBrewer
http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
www.rcparkflyers.com
Remove the xxx to reply!
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:Xv%wc.42769$4x2.20698@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
06-07-2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Hmm, no body lift? Well, I could sell it and put the $ into a nice CJ - but
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
HomeBrewer
http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
www.rcparkflyers.com
Remove the xxx to reply!
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:Xv%wc.42769$4x2.20698@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
HomeBrewer
http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
www.rcparkflyers.com
Remove the xxx to reply!
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:Xv%wc.42769$4x2.20698@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
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06-07-2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Hmm, no body lift? Well, I could sell it and put the $ into a nice CJ - but
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
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"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
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> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
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http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
www.rcparkflyers.com
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"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
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> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
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> >
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>
>
06-07-2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Hmm, no body lift? Well, I could sell it and put the $ into a nice CJ - but
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
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www.rcparkflyers.com
Remove the xxx to reply!
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:Xv%wc.42769$4x2.20698@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
it would have to be my daily driver and do boat pulling duty. Then what
would I do with the rusty cj in the shack? man, decisions, decisions.
--
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http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
www.rcparkflyers.com
Remove the xxx to reply!
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
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> Like everyone said, a body lift can't be done. If you do a spacer lift do
> NOT do a shackle lift. I repeat -- DO NOT do a shackle lift. I did this
on
> my 2000 Cherokee and have regretted it ever since.
>
> Also, the XJs have a tendency to have more problems than the TJs when
> lifted. Just be ready for all the little money. With 2" I needed to get
a
> new track bar to get rid of the death wobble (even after upgrading to an
OME
> steering stabilizer) and I still have driveline vibes. I've spent almost
> $1000 on having different shops try to fix the problem. Should have just
> bought smaller tires and gotten rid of the lift. However, when installing
> the shackles, I had to drill out the old bushings and sleeves in the stock
> leafs, so going stock would required a new set of leafs.
>
> Just keep that in mind. If I had it to do over again, no way would I do a
> 1 - 2" lift. If you're going to do it, go all the way. 3"+ with SYE, new
> trackbars, and definitely new LCAs.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> 00 XJ LTD
> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to
get
> a
> > small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >
> > --
> > HomeBrewer
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > www.rcparkflyers.com
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
06-08-2004, 12:09 AM
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Ain't that the truth! When I first got the MJ I was looking at
lifting it a couple of inches just to fit chains on the rear so they
didn't rip up the flares. Out in the muddy plowed fields a good heavy
set of chains will save a lot of cussing but I gave it up when simple
math said that it was 6 inches or nothing: 2.5 inch axle tube and pad
plus a little over 3 inches of spring pack. The long bed MJ has some
hefty springs compared to the XJ.
I don't know about the short bed version. There are 4 or 5 running
around here so I guess I should take a look some time. One other
oddity about the rear end: mine has the D35 diff with tracloc but the
manual on it specifically states that it DOES NOT use c-clips! I also
checked when I had the brakes off and the rear axle definitely uses a
bolt on bearing retainer behind the backing plate. I sure don't look
forward to ever having to replace that axle! Now, if only I had
lucked into the "metric ton" version with the D44 or something a tad
shorter than the 3.07 it came with... That was probably OK with the
205/75/15 tires the door plate says it came with but even 235s are a
challenge on the highway at 7-8000 feet (Vail Pass at over 11,000 is
third gear time).
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:03:26 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
>
> One has spring over and one spring under even.
>
> But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
> Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
> eh....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> > frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> > different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> > close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> > differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> > cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> > rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> > number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> > enough to run with the bed off.
> >
> > I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> > that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> > body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> > I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> > shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> > more.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> > >
> > > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > > >pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >94XJ
> > > > >
> > > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > > >a
> > > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
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lifting it a couple of inches just to fit chains on the rear so they
didn't rip up the flares. Out in the muddy plowed fields a good heavy
set of chains will save a lot of cussing but I gave it up when simple
math said that it was 6 inches or nothing: 2.5 inch axle tube and pad
plus a little over 3 inches of spring pack. The long bed MJ has some
hefty springs compared to the XJ.
I don't know about the short bed version. There are 4 or 5 running
around here so I guess I should take a look some time. One other
oddity about the rear end: mine has the D35 diff with tracloc but the
manual on it specifically states that it DOES NOT use c-clips! I also
checked when I had the brakes off and the rear axle definitely uses a
bolt on bearing retainer behind the backing plate. I sure don't look
forward to ever having to replace that axle! Now, if only I had
lucked into the "metric ton" version with the D44 or something a tad
shorter than the 3.07 it came with... That was probably OK with the
205/75/15 tires the door plate says it came with but even 235s are a
challenge on the highway at 7-8000 feet (Vail Pass at over 11,000 is
third gear time).
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:03:26 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
>
> One has spring over and one spring under even.
>
> But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
> Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
> eh....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> > frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> > different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> > close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> > differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> > cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> > rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> > number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> > enough to run with the bed off.
> >
> > I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> > that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> > body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> > I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> > shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> > more.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> > >
> > > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > > >pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >94XJ
> > > > >
> > > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > > >a
> > > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
06-08-2004, 12:09 AM
#39
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Ain't that the truth! When I first got the MJ I was looking at
lifting it a couple of inches just to fit chains on the rear so they
didn't rip up the flares. Out in the muddy plowed fields a good heavy
set of chains will save a lot of cussing but I gave it up when simple
math said that it was 6 inches or nothing: 2.5 inch axle tube and pad
plus a little over 3 inches of spring pack. The long bed MJ has some
hefty springs compared to the XJ.
I don't know about the short bed version. There are 4 or 5 running
around here so I guess I should take a look some time. One other
oddity about the rear end: mine has the D35 diff with tracloc but the
manual on it specifically states that it DOES NOT use c-clips! I also
checked when I had the brakes off and the rear axle definitely uses a
bolt on bearing retainer behind the backing plate. I sure don't look
forward to ever having to replace that axle! Now, if only I had
lucked into the "metric ton" version with the D44 or something a tad
shorter than the 3.07 it came with... That was probably OK with the
205/75/15 tires the door plate says it came with but even 235s are a
challenge on the highway at 7-8000 feet (Vail Pass at over 11,000 is
third gear time).
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:03:26 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
>
> One has spring over and one spring under even.
>
> But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
> Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
> eh....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> > frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> > different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> > close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> > differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> > cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> > rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> > number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> > enough to run with the bed off.
> >
> > I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> > that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> > body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> > I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> > shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> > more.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> > >
> > > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > > >pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >94XJ
> > > > >
> > > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > > >a
> > > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
lifting it a couple of inches just to fit chains on the rear so they
didn't rip up the flares. Out in the muddy plowed fields a good heavy
set of chains will save a lot of cussing but I gave it up when simple
math said that it was 6 inches or nothing: 2.5 inch axle tube and pad
plus a little over 3 inches of spring pack. The long bed MJ has some
hefty springs compared to the XJ.
I don't know about the short bed version. There are 4 or 5 running
around here so I guess I should take a look some time. One other
oddity about the rear end: mine has the D35 diff with tracloc but the
manual on it specifically states that it DOES NOT use c-clips! I also
checked when I had the brakes off and the rear axle definitely uses a
bolt on bearing retainer behind the backing plate. I sure don't look
forward to ever having to replace that axle! Now, if only I had
lucked into the "metric ton" version with the D44 or something a tad
shorter than the 3.07 it came with... That was probably OK with the
205/75/15 tires the door plate says it came with but even 235s are a
challenge on the highway at 7-8000 feet (Vail Pass at over 11,000 is
third gear time).
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:03:26 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
>
> One has spring over and one spring under even.
>
> But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
> Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
> eh....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> > frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> > different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> > close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> > differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> > cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> > rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> > number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> > enough to run with the bed off.
> >
> > I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> > that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> > body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> > I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> > shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> > more.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> > >
> > > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > > >pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >94XJ
> > > > >
> > > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > > >a
> > > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
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Will Honea
06-08-2004, 12:09 AM
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Re: body lift for cherokee?
Ain't that the truth! When I first got the MJ I was looking at
lifting it a couple of inches just to fit chains on the rear so they
didn't rip up the flares. Out in the muddy plowed fields a good heavy
set of chains will save a lot of cussing but I gave it up when simple
math said that it was 6 inches or nothing: 2.5 inch axle tube and pad
plus a little over 3 inches of spring pack. The long bed MJ has some
hefty springs compared to the XJ.
I don't know about the short bed version. There are 4 or 5 running
around here so I guess I should take a look some time. One other
oddity about the rear end: mine has the D35 diff with tracloc but the
manual on it specifically states that it DOES NOT use c-clips! I also
checked when I had the brakes off and the rear axle definitely uses a
bolt on bearing retainer behind the backing plate. I sure don't look
forward to ever having to replace that axle! Now, if only I had
lucked into the "metric ton" version with the D44 or something a tad
shorter than the 3.07 it came with... That was probably OK with the
205/75/15 tires the door plate says it came with but even 235s are a
challenge on the highway at 7-8000 feet (Vail Pass at over 11,000 is
third gear time).
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:03:26 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
>
> One has spring over and one spring under even.
>
> But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
> Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
> eh....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> > frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> > different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> > close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> > differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> > cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> > rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> > number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> > enough to run with the bed off.
> >
> > I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> > that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> > body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> > I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> > shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> > more.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> > >
> > > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > > >pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >94XJ
> > > > >
> > > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > > >a
> > > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
lifting it a couple of inches just to fit chains on the rear so they
didn't rip up the flares. Out in the muddy plowed fields a good heavy
set of chains will save a lot of cussing but I gave it up when simple
math said that it was 6 inches or nothing: 2.5 inch axle tube and pad
plus a little over 3 inches of spring pack. The long bed MJ has some
hefty springs compared to the XJ.
I don't know about the short bed version. There are 4 or 5 running
around here so I guess I should take a look some time. One other
oddity about the rear end: mine has the D35 diff with tracloc but the
manual on it specifically states that it DOES NOT use c-clips! I also
checked when I had the brakes off and the rear axle definitely uses a
bolt on bearing retainer behind the backing plate. I sure don't look
forward to ever having to replace that axle! Now, if only I had
lucked into the "metric ton" version with the D44 or something a tad
shorter than the 3.07 it came with... That was probably OK with the
205/75/15 tires the door plate says it came with but even 235s are a
challenge on the highway at 7-8000 feet (Vail Pass at over 11,000 is
third gear time).
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:03:26 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.
>
> One has spring over and one spring under even.
>
> But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
> Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
> eh....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> > frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> > different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> > close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> > differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> > cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> > rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> > number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> > enough to run with the bed off.
> >
> > I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> > that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> > body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> > I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> > shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> > more.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> > >
> > > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > > >pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jim
> > > > >94XJ
> > > > >
> > > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > > >a
> > > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea