Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.

Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...


On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:

> Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> >pleased.
> >
> >Jim
> >94XJ
> >
> >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> >a
> >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> >>
> >> --
> >> HomeBrewer
> >>
> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

 

They both have the same full frame under there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >

 

They both have the same full frame under there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >

 

They both have the same full frame under there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >

 

They both have the same full frame under there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >

 

No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
enough to run with the bed off.

I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
more.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:

>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >


--
Will Honea

 

No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
enough to run with the bed off.

I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
more.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:

>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >


--
Will Honea

 

No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
enough to run with the bed off.

I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
more.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:

>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >


--
Will Honea

 

No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
enough to run with the bed off.

I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
more.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:

>
> Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
>
> Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
>
> > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > >pleased.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >94XJ
> > >
> > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > >a
> > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >>
> > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >


--
Will Honea

 

I am thinking about it and you are right, they are different.

One has spring over and one spring under even.

But cutting the cab off the front frame and boxing it, then putting a
Cherokee body on with a couple inch body lift would sure fit nice tires
eh....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Will Honea wrote:
>
> No, the MJ is similar from the doors forward and uses the identical
> frame extension in the engine bay/bumper area but it is completely
> different from just aft of the doors on back. I've only looked up
> close at the long bed I have but the FSM on the body details the
> differences pretty well. The rear of the cab is incorporated into a
> cross brace/stiffener that has no counterpart on the XJ and from the
> rear wall of the cab on back it uses a unique full boxed frame with a
> number of additional cross braces - remember, it has to be stiff
> enough to run with the bed off.
>
> I haven't measured but I'm pretty sure from looking under my son's XJ
> that the wheel well arches are considerably higher for the MJ so the
> body probably won't sit down even if you try it. The long bed version
> I have has nearly a foot lomger wheelbase than the XJ and the rear
> shocks have at least 3 more inches of travel than the XJ shocks, maybe
> more.
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 15:18:07 UTC Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are the Commanche pickup trucks are on a full frame? I wonder if it would
> > be possible to put a Cherokee on a Commanche platform.
> >
> > Not that I'd want to do the work, mind...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, David C. Moller wrote:
> >
> > > Ya, pretty sure you can't do a body lift on a Cherokee, because of the
> > > unibody construction that Jim mentioned..
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> > >
> > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 02:19:44 GMT, "Jim Kelly"
> > > <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The largest problem you will encounter is the unibody. I'd look into
> > > >suspension lifts. I have a Rubicon Express 3.5" (RE 6025). I have been
> > > >pleased.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >94XJ
> > > >
> > > >"HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:2ihv1hFn99maU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> I have a bone stock jeep cherokee, 99 sport, where is a good place to get
> > > >a
> > > >> small body lift? Also, what problems may I expect when installing?
> > > >> Transmission, gaps in body, etc...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HomeBrewer
> > > >>
> > > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~t3e871/index.html
> > > >> www.rcparkflyers.com
> > > >> Remove the xxx to reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Will Honea