SteveBrady

I wouldn't say it's necessary to spend gross amounts of cash so that you can
look cool having name brand stuff.
Just be aware that sometimes there's a quality issue between the cheapo's
and the nameo's! :p


"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:v275d.495273$M95.397055@pd7tw1no...
> There's some no-name type stainless steel 6" round ones too ...is it
really
> necessary to buy name-brand like PIAA or KC? Any advantages? These are
> 55/100 and 55/130. I can get a set of 4 for about $100 USD shipped.
>
> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:oKKdnYjTFoMWfcncRVn-tw@rogers.com...
> > Well, are those cheapies plastic shelled?! won't last long going
through
> > the bush whether you need them or not! they'll get whacked and cracked!
> >
> > Same come winter time and with UV exposure.
> >
> > I went to Princess Auto up here in Canada and they have dozens of
surplus
> > gear which included Aux lights....but they were mostly plastic
> > shelled....thought and thought....hurt myself thinking...then thought
some
> > more and figured I'd shmuck them on something and crack them.
> >
> > would rather have the metal shelled ones that cost a few more bucks.
> >
> >
> > "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:LK45d.512336$gE.444769@pd7tw3no...
> > > Well, the lights on the lightbar are more for: a) lighting the path in
> > front
> > > of me for offroading at night and; b) looks
> > >
> > > I'm not sure it's justifiable to spend $80+ USD on a pair of PIAA or
> KC's
> > > when I can get 4 of those blue ones for $80 USD (or clear coloured).
> > >
> > > "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:YKOdnd_hnfC9WMncRVn-hg@rogers.com...
> > > > Ya, there's a certain lense that will reduce glare.
> > > >
> > > > remember those sunglasses from the 80's...blue blockers? they
blocked
> a
> > > > certain part of the spectrum that would reduce glare....these
coloured
> > > > lenses do the same. But, since fog isn't all the way to the ground
> (or
> > is
> > > > LESS at the ground) we mount our fog lights under the bumper to get
> > under
> > > > the fog and make the best penetration....but the yellow still helps
> > reduce
> > > > glare.
> > > >
> > > > Ok....no more science books for me!
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:Dg25d.847$ED.165@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> > > > > which is why yellow ones work the best in fog :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Ka6dnfsUfLvMMsncRVn-oQ@gbronline.com...
> > > > > > White fog lights throw the most light.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%Q15d.493456$M95.320522@pd7tw1no...
> > > > > > > Has anyone tried these?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33709
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have blue, yellow, green, and clear. First off, I'm a
> little
> > > > > worried
> > > > > > > that the "Jeep" and "4x4" might mess up the way the light
> shines.
> > > > Also,
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > kinda wondering whether the blue light would work well, look
> good,
> > > or
> > > > > look
> > > > > > > stupid.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's everyone's recommendations for foglights? I have 2
> > > rectangular
> > > > > > amber
> > > > > > > 55W on my brush gaurd for ground fog and as daylighters but I
> want
> > 4
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > round lights for my lightbar for offroading.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

SteveBrady

I wouldn't say it's necessary to spend gross amounts of cash so that you can
look cool having name brand stuff.
Just be aware that sometimes there's a quality issue between the cheapo's
and the nameo's! :p


"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:v275d.495273$M95.397055@pd7tw1no...
> There's some no-name type stainless steel 6" round ones too ...is it
really
> necessary to buy name-brand like PIAA or KC? Any advantages? These are
> 55/100 and 55/130. I can get a set of 4 for about $100 USD shipped.
>
> "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:oKKdnYjTFoMWfcncRVn-tw@rogers.com...
> > Well, are those cheapies plastic shelled?! won't last long going
through
> > the bush whether you need them or not! they'll get whacked and cracked!
> >
> > Same come winter time and with UV exposure.
> >
> > I went to Princess Auto up here in Canada and they have dozens of
surplus
> > gear which included Aux lights....but they were mostly plastic
> > shelled....thought and thought....hurt myself thinking...then thought
some
> > more and figured I'd shmuck them on something and crack them.
> >
> > would rather have the metal shelled ones that cost a few more bucks.
> >
> >
> > "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:LK45d.512336$gE.444769@pd7tw3no...
> > > Well, the lights on the lightbar are more for: a) lighting the path in
> > front
> > > of me for offroading at night and; b) looks
> > >
> > > I'm not sure it's justifiable to spend $80+ USD on a pair of PIAA or
> KC's
> > > when I can get 4 of those blue ones for $80 USD (or clear coloured).
> > >
> > > "SteveBrady" <steve.brady@(remove this)rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:YKOdnd_hnfC9WMncRVn-hg@rogers.com...
> > > > Ya, there's a certain lense that will reduce glare.
> > > >
> > > > remember those sunglasses from the 80's...blue blockers? they
blocked
> a
> > > > certain part of the spectrum that would reduce glare....these
coloured
> > > > lenses do the same. But, since fog isn't all the way to the ground
> (or
> > is
> > > > LESS at the ground) we mount our fog lights under the bumper to get
> > under
> > > > the fog and make the best penetration....but the yellow still helps
> > reduce
> > > > glare.
> > > >
> > > > Ok....no more science books for me!
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > > news:Dg25d.847$ED.165@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> > > > > which is why yellow ones work the best in fog :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Ka6dnfsUfLvMMsncRVn-oQ@gbronline.com...
> > > > > > White fog lights throw the most light.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%Q15d.493456$M95.320522@pd7tw1no...
> > > > > > > Has anyone tried these?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33709
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have blue, yellow, green, and clear. First off, I'm a
> little
> > > > > worried
> > > > > > > that the "Jeep" and "4x4" might mess up the way the light
> shines.
> > > > Also,
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > kinda wondering whether the blue light would work well, look
> good,
> > > or
> > > > > look
> > > > > > > stupid.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What's everyone's recommendations for foglights? I have 2
> > > rectangular
> > > > > > amber
> > > > > > > 55W on my brush gaurd for ground fog and as daylighters but I
> want
> > 4
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > round lights for my lightbar for offroading.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

mabar

Hi Dave:

I personally feel that all things being equal, the white lenses work better
in fog than yellow. The yellow lenses substantially reduce the light output
of the bulb. See: http://tinyurl.com/6og7n

The beam pattern on a good fog lamp is what is most important. The low wide
beam pattern of a good fog light reflects less light back into the driver's
eyes, and the white lights do throw much more light than a yellow light
(again, all other things being equal.)
:)

Tom

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Dg25d.847$ED.165@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> which is why yellow ones work the best in fog :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:Ka6dnfsUfLvMMsncRVn-oQ@gbronline.com...
> > White fog lights throw the most light.
> >
> > Tom

mabar

Hi Dave:

I personally feel that all things being equal, the white lenses work better
in fog than yellow. The yellow lenses substantially reduce the light output
of the bulb. See: http://tinyurl.com/6og7n

The beam pattern on a good fog lamp is what is most important. The low wide
beam pattern of a good fog light reflects less light back into the driver's
eyes, and the white lights do throw much more light than a yellow light
(again, all other things being equal.)
:)

Tom

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Dg25d.847$ED.165@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> which is why yellow ones work the best in fog :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:Ka6dnfsUfLvMMsncRVn-oQ@gbronline.com...
> > White fog lights throw the most light.
> >
> > Tom

mabar

Hi Dave:

I personally feel that all things being equal, the white lenses work better
in fog than yellow. The yellow lenses substantially reduce the light output
of the bulb. See: http://tinyurl.com/6og7n

The beam pattern on a good fog lamp is what is most important. The low wide
beam pattern of a good fog light reflects less light back into the driver's
eyes, and the white lights do throw much more light than a yellow light
(again, all other things being equal.)
:)

Tom

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Dg25d.847$ED.165@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. .
> which is why yellow ones work the best in fog :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:Ka6dnfsUfLvMMsncRVn-oQ@gbronline.com...
> > White fog lights throw the most light.
> >
> > Tom

griffin

So then, would you recommend round or rectangular for being mounted above
the windshield on a lightbar? I think I'll go with the white halogens but
now I'm debating the following:

1. 6" round's or rectangular's?
2. rock gaurd covers or not (or the ones that say Jeep)?
3. 55/100 or 55/130?

Anyone know off hand what the stock alternator on an '85 CJ7 can handle
light-wise? I have no stereo and no auxillary stuff except for the lights
(ie: no winch, etc).

Thanks

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:qvudnSy88Jil_sjcRVn-qQ@gbronline.com...
> Hi Dave:
>
> I personally feel that all things being equal, the white lenses work
better
> in fog than yellow. The yellow lenses substantially reduce the light
output
> of the bulb. See: http://tinyurl.com/6og7n
>
> The beam pattern on a good fog lamp is what is most important. The low
wide
> beam pattern of a good fog light reflects less light back into the
driver's
> eyes, and the white lights do throw much more light than a yellow light
> (again, all other things being equal.)
> :)
>
> Tom

griffin

So then, would you recommend round or rectangular for being mounted above
the windshield on a lightbar? I think I'll go with the white halogens but
now I'm debating the following:

1. 6" round's or rectangular's?
2. rock gaurd covers or not (or the ones that say Jeep)?
3. 55/100 or 55/130?

Anyone know off hand what the stock alternator on an '85 CJ7 can handle
light-wise? I have no stereo and no auxillary stuff except for the lights
(ie: no winch, etc).

Thanks

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:qvudnSy88Jil_sjcRVn-qQ@gbronline.com...
> Hi Dave:
>
> I personally feel that all things being equal, the white lenses work
better
> in fog than yellow. The yellow lenses substantially reduce the light
output
> of the bulb. See: http://tinyurl.com/6og7n
>
> The beam pattern on a good fog lamp is what is most important. The low
wide
> beam pattern of a good fog light reflects less light back into the
driver's
> eyes, and the white lights do throw much more light than a yellow light
> (again, all other things being equal.)
> :)
>
> Tom

griffin

So then, would you recommend round or rectangular for being mounted above
the windshield on a lightbar? I think I'll go with the white halogens but
now I'm debating the following:

1. 6" round's or rectangular's?
2. rock gaurd covers or not (or the ones that say Jeep)?
3. 55/100 or 55/130?

Anyone know off hand what the stock alternator on an '85 CJ7 can handle
light-wise? I have no stereo and no auxillary stuff except for the lights
(ie: no winch, etc).

Thanks

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:qvudnSy88Jil_sjcRVn-qQ@gbronline.com...
> Hi Dave:
>
> I personally feel that all things being equal, the white lenses work
better
> in fog than yellow. The yellow lenses substantially reduce the light
output
> of the bulb. See: http://tinyurl.com/6og7n
>
> The beam pattern on a good fog lamp is what is most important. The low
wide
> beam pattern of a good fog light reflects less light back into the
driver's
> eyes, and the white lights do throw much more light than a yellow light
> (again, all other things being equal.)
> :)
>
> Tom

DougW

griffin did pass the time by typing:
> So then, would you recommend round or rectangular for being mounted above
> the windshield on a lightbar? I think I'll go with the white halogens but
> now I'm debating the following:
>
> 1. 6" round's or rectangular's?
> 2. rock gaurd covers or not (or the ones that say Jeep)?
> 3. 55/100 or 55/130?
>
> Anyone know off hand what the stock alternator on an '85 CJ7 can handle
> light-wise? I have no stereo and no auxillary stuff except for the lights
> (ie: no winch, etc).

Just a note, check with the local police department. Some areas require
offroad lights be covered when your not offroad.

Lights up top probably don't need rock guards and when they do you have
bigger problems to wory about. :)

Round v Rectangular.. dunno. I'm partial to the round ones myself.

Power, your probably fine, 63A is what the stock one did. If you need
more power they make some HUGE ones.
<http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/makeId-8000123/p-8361/c-10108/modelId-8001393>
or
http://tinyurl.com/4dm5x

Make sure you use the proper gauge of wire for the
load, put a fuse by the battery, and always use a relay
for aux lamps.

Have fun and keep the shiny(or mostly shiny with mud globs) side up. :)

--
DougW

DougW

griffin did pass the time by typing:
> So then, would you recommend round or rectangular for being mounted above
> the windshield on a lightbar? I think I'll go with the white halogens but
> now I'm debating the following:
>
> 1. 6" round's or rectangular's?
> 2. rock gaurd covers or not (or the ones that say Jeep)?
> 3. 55/100 or 55/130?
>
> Anyone know off hand what the stock alternator on an '85 CJ7 can handle
> light-wise? I have no stereo and no auxillary stuff except for the lights
> (ie: no winch, etc).

Just a note, check with the local police department. Some areas require
offroad lights be covered when your not offroad.

Lights up top probably don't need rock guards and when they do you have
bigger problems to wory about. :)

Round v Rectangular.. dunno. I'm partial to the round ones myself.

Power, your probably fine, 63A is what the stock one did. If you need
more power they make some HUGE ones.
<http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/makeId-8000123/p-8361/c-10108/modelId-8001393>
or
http://tinyurl.com/4dm5x

Make sure you use the proper gauge of wire for the
load, put a fuse by the battery, and always use a relay
for aux lamps.

Have fun and keep the shiny(or mostly shiny with mud globs) side up. :)

--
DougW