Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

Jeff wrote:
> Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
>
> Off the original subject...
> I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?

While it's apart you may as well have a look at the water pump
and timing chain. 200,000 is about time to have it checked.

With Jeeps it's more about body rot than drivetrain.

--
DougW

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

Jeff wrote:
> Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
>
> Off the original subject...
> I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?

While it's apart you may as well have a look at the water pump
and timing chain. 200,000 is about time to have it checked.

With Jeeps it's more about body rot than drivetrain.

--
DougW

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

I did the water pump last year, the body seems to be in great shape. I
think the last owner kept it in a garage, as do I, and that should
ssignificantly extend the life of the body on any vehicle in this area.

DougW wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> > $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> > reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
> >
> > Off the original subject...
> > I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> > etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> > on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> > should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> > it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> > or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?
>
> While it's apart you may as well have a look at the water pump
> and timing chain. 200,000 is about time to have it checked.
>
> With Jeeps it's more about body rot than drivetrain.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

I did the water pump last year, the body seems to be in great shape. I
think the last owner kept it in a garage, as do I, and that should
ssignificantly extend the life of the body on any vehicle in this area.

DougW wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> > $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> > reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
> >
> > Off the original subject...
> > I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> > etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> > on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> > should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> > it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> > or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?
>
> While it's apart you may as well have a look at the water pump
> and timing chain. 200,000 is about time to have it checked.
>
> With Jeeps it's more about body rot than drivetrain.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

I did the water pump last year, the body seems to be in great shape. I
think the last owner kept it in a garage, as do I, and that should
ssignificantly extend the life of the body on any vehicle in this area.

DougW wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> > $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> > reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
> >
> > Off the original subject...
> > I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> > etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> > on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> > should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> > it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> > or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?
>
> While it's apart you may as well have a look at the water pump
> and timing chain. 200,000 is about time to have it checked.
>
> With Jeeps it's more about body rot than drivetrain.
>
> --
> DougW

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

I would suspect the head is cracked, not the gasket blown, the 0331 head
is notiorious for cracking due to a weakness Jeep introduced.

If you pull that head forget about a valve job, get a reman'd 0630 head
(an ealier casting that flows just as well but doesn't have the
weakness)... It's an easy job, if you're familiar with the 4.0

If you want very Cherokee specific advice check out naxja.com forums
they know everything you could ever want to know about an XJ there.
Including exactly where to look on the head to see if it's cracked (I
seem to recall it cracks at the 3rd cylinder intake pushrod hole and
rocker arm tower but I could be mistaken.

A 2001 will just be adding the possibility of the same problem on a more
expensive XJ (it has the 0331 head)... I wouldn't hesitate to spend $200
on an 0630 head (Ebay) and do the work yourself It's really nothing
scary just a lot of unbolting and rebolting using torque specs. Label
your loose connections and keep a chiltons or Haynes manual near by. You
can do it in a day if you attack it with confidence.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

I would suspect the head is cracked, not the gasket blown, the 0331 head
is notiorious for cracking due to a weakness Jeep introduced.

If you pull that head forget about a valve job, get a reman'd 0630 head
(an ealier casting that flows just as well but doesn't have the
weakness)... It's an easy job, if you're familiar with the 4.0

If you want very Cherokee specific advice check out naxja.com forums
they know everything you could ever want to know about an XJ there.
Including exactly where to look on the head to see if it's cracked (I
seem to recall it cracks at the 3rd cylinder intake pushrod hole and
rocker arm tower but I could be mistaken.

A 2001 will just be adding the possibility of the same problem on a more
expensive XJ (it has the 0331 head)... I wouldn't hesitate to spend $200
on an 0630 head (Ebay) and do the work yourself It's really nothing
scary just a lot of unbolting and rebolting using torque specs. Label
your loose connections and keep a chiltons or Haynes manual near by. You
can do it in a day if you attack it with confidence.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

I would suspect the head is cracked, not the gasket blown, the 0331 head
is notiorious for cracking due to a weakness Jeep introduced.

If you pull that head forget about a valve job, get a reman'd 0630 head
(an ealier casting that flows just as well but doesn't have the
weakness)... It's an easy job, if you're familiar with the 4.0

If you want very Cherokee specific advice check out naxja.com forums
they know everything you could ever want to know about an XJ there.
Including exactly where to look on the head to see if it's cracked (I
seem to recall it cracks at the 3rd cylinder intake pushrod hole and
rocker arm tower but I could be mistaken.

A 2001 will just be adding the possibility of the same problem on a more
expensive XJ (it has the 0331 head)... I wouldn't hesitate to spend $200
on an 0630 head (Ebay) and do the work yourself It's really nothing
scary just a lot of unbolting and rebolting using torque specs. Label
your loose connections and keep a chiltons or Haynes manual near by. You
can do it in a day if you attack it with confidence.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

There are lots of guys on this forum that have 250-300k on their 4 liter
engines, just remember to change the oil and filter every 3k if you want to
keep the Jeep forever.

And yes, sometimes Dad's do know something.... you pick up a lot of stuff if
you live long enough....


"Jeff" <JeffBallweg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160705609.111380.244670@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
>
> Off the original subject...
> I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?
>
> Oh, and I'm in South Central Wisconsin
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Where are you located? I'm looking to buy a Cherokee.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Jeff" <JeffBallweg@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160679504.713123.35050@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > My 1998 Jeep Cherokee L6 4.0L started missing badly the other day, so I
>> >
>> > checked the codes and got the following: 300 (random misfire), 301
>> > (miss on #1), 303 (miss on #3), 304 (miss on #4).
>> > So I took it to my local shop and rode my bicycle home. This morning I
>> > got a call from the mechanic, and he says that the issue is a blown
>> > head gasket, and mentioned that "sometimes these have a cracked head
>> > too." He also reccomends a valve job as it has 145,000 miles on it.
>> > I'm wondering what to do here. I like the vehicle, but I probably
>> > should have traded it in for another one 20,000 miles ago.
>> > They are quoting me $1400+ for the gasket replacement (and I think that
>> >
>> > includes a $350 valve job.)
>> >
>> > Questions:
>> > What are prices that people have experienced on this job?
>> > Is a cracked head really likely on this?
>> > I am fairly mechanically inclined, can I fix this myself?
>> > How long would it take to fix myself?
>> >
>

Re: Blown head gasket on 98 cherokee?
 

There are lots of guys on this forum that have 250-300k on their 4 liter
engines, just remember to change the oil and filter every 3k if you want to
keep the Jeep forever.

And yes, sometimes Dad's do know something.... you pick up a lot of stuff if
you live long enough....


"Jeff" <JeffBallweg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160705609.111380.244670@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> Well, I shopped the job around and found a place that will do it for
> $550, add a valve job for $50 more. Its a reputable shop that my dad
> reccomended. Heh, leave it to the old man.
>
> Off the original subject...
> I drive a ridiculous amount of miles to work, ski, mt bike, camp etc,
> etc. The Jeep is pretty good for this stuff, but I put a ton of miles
> on it. It's worth more to me running than as a trade in, so how long
> should I expect to drive this? I figure after it's fixed up this time,
> it can make 200K. I've heard stories of further... do I push my luck?
> or do I think about moving to a 2001 Cherokee?
>
> Oh, and I'm in South Central Wisconsin
>
> Carl wrote:
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Where are you located? I'm looking to buy a Cherokee.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Jeff" <JeffBallweg@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160679504.713123.35050@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > My 1998 Jeep Cherokee L6 4.0L started missing badly the other day, so I
>> >
>> > checked the codes and got the following: 300 (random misfire), 301
>> > (miss on #1), 303 (miss on #3), 304 (miss on #4).
>> > So I took it to my local shop and rode my bicycle home. This morning I
>> > got a call from the mechanic, and he says that the issue is a blown
>> > head gasket, and mentioned that "sometimes these have a cracked head
>> > too." He also reccomends a valve job as it has 145,000 miles on it.
>> > I'm wondering what to do here. I like the vehicle, but I probably
>> > should have traded it in for another one 20,000 miles ago.
>> > They are quoting me $1400+ for the gasket replacement (and I think that
>> >
>> > includes a $350 valve job.)
>> >
>> > Questions:
>> > What are prices that people have experienced on this job?
>> > Is a cracked head really likely on this?
>> > I am fairly mechanically inclined, can I fix this myself?
>> > How long would it take to fix myself?
>> >
>