Blankety-Blank Rear Seal!!!!
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Re: Blankety-Blank Rear Seal!!!!
Oil pressure is excellent, 50 - 55 lbs at cruising rpm depending upon oil
temp. 25lbs+ at hot idle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4116404D.8DE9BBB8@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe it's time to swap the rear bearing for a new one.... How is the
> oil pressure. If the pressure is low or really swingy, that is a sign
> of a worn main bearing.
>
> I am always picky and aware of drying times. RTV is tricky. If it
> doesn't get it's cure time, then it is a 50/50 crap shoot for leaks.
>
> I even use big spot lights and heaters on areas for 24 hours that have
> RTV to cure if the temp is below 'room'.
>
> 3 mm for a bead isn't much either, that is about the size of an HB
> pencil lead.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > One other thought, Mike. The factory manual calls for a "3mm thick bead"
of
> > the anaerobic sealer, placed from the center of the bolt hole, along the
> > edge of the cap right up to the edge of the tabbed ear on the lower seal
> > half. That can be misleading, they mean (according to a Jeep tech buddy)
to
> > make the bead 3mm TALL, which is a lot of sealer. Compression of the
stuff
> > when the main was tapped into place and torqued down made it ooze under
the
> > seal at the ends.
> >
> > Frankly I just think this is one block where the seal clearance is too
> > loose. Compared to any others I've done the upper seal half pops right
out
> > when pushed on. Others I've done may require loosening one or two other
main
> > caps, not this guy.
> >
> > As for the size of the leak, it';s not like it's a gusher. This ewngine
> > doesn't use 1 qt between 3000 mi oil changes, just makes a mess on my
garage
> > floor.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41162393.F14B0DA9@sympatico.ca...
> > > 5 times?
> > >
> > > Wow, are you using RTV on it and not letting it cure for the required
24
> > > hours before adding oil or something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It'll come back, no matter how many times you change it. It may be
a
> > day,
> > > > a
> > > > week, or a month max, but it will come back. Just think of it as
> > > > preservative for the bottom of your tub and drive train.>
> > > >
> > > > I know, since it was new it's been replaced at least 5 times in 65k
> > miles.
> > > > We'll see how long this one goes.
temp. 25lbs+ at hot idle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4116404D.8DE9BBB8@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe it's time to swap the rear bearing for a new one.... How is the
> oil pressure. If the pressure is low or really swingy, that is a sign
> of a worn main bearing.
>
> I am always picky and aware of drying times. RTV is tricky. If it
> doesn't get it's cure time, then it is a 50/50 crap shoot for leaks.
>
> I even use big spot lights and heaters on areas for 24 hours that have
> RTV to cure if the temp is below 'room'.
>
> 3 mm for a bead isn't much either, that is about the size of an HB
> pencil lead.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > One other thought, Mike. The factory manual calls for a "3mm thick bead"
of
> > the anaerobic sealer, placed from the center of the bolt hole, along the
> > edge of the cap right up to the edge of the tabbed ear on the lower seal
> > half. That can be misleading, they mean (according to a Jeep tech buddy)
to
> > make the bead 3mm TALL, which is a lot of sealer. Compression of the
stuff
> > when the main was tapped into place and torqued down made it ooze under
the
> > seal at the ends.
> >
> > Frankly I just think this is one block where the seal clearance is too
> > loose. Compared to any others I've done the upper seal half pops right
out
> > when pushed on. Others I've done may require loosening one or two other
main
> > caps, not this guy.
> >
> > As for the size of the leak, it';s not like it's a gusher. This ewngine
> > doesn't use 1 qt between 3000 mi oil changes, just makes a mess on my
garage
> > floor.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41162393.F14B0DA9@sympatico.ca...
> > > 5 times?
> > >
> > > Wow, are you using RTV on it and not letting it cure for the required
24
> > > hours before adding oil or something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It'll come back, no matter how many times you change it. It may be
a
> > day,
> > > > a
> > > > week, or a month max, but it will come back. Just think of it as
> > > > preservative for the bottom of your tub and drive train.>
> > > >
> > > > I know, since it was new it's been replaced at least 5 times in 65k
> > miles.
> > > > We'll see how long this one goes.
#132
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Re: Blankety-Blank Rear Seal!!!!
Oil pressure is excellent, 50 - 55 lbs at cruising rpm depending upon oil
temp. 25lbs+ at hot idle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4116404D.8DE9BBB8@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe it's time to swap the rear bearing for a new one.... How is the
> oil pressure. If the pressure is low or really swingy, that is a sign
> of a worn main bearing.
>
> I am always picky and aware of drying times. RTV is tricky. If it
> doesn't get it's cure time, then it is a 50/50 crap shoot for leaks.
>
> I even use big spot lights and heaters on areas for 24 hours that have
> RTV to cure if the temp is below 'room'.
>
> 3 mm for a bead isn't much either, that is about the size of an HB
> pencil lead.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > One other thought, Mike. The factory manual calls for a "3mm thick bead"
of
> > the anaerobic sealer, placed from the center of the bolt hole, along the
> > edge of the cap right up to the edge of the tabbed ear on the lower seal
> > half. That can be misleading, they mean (according to a Jeep tech buddy)
to
> > make the bead 3mm TALL, which is a lot of sealer. Compression of the
stuff
> > when the main was tapped into place and torqued down made it ooze under
the
> > seal at the ends.
> >
> > Frankly I just think this is one block where the seal clearance is too
> > loose. Compared to any others I've done the upper seal half pops right
out
> > when pushed on. Others I've done may require loosening one or two other
main
> > caps, not this guy.
> >
> > As for the size of the leak, it';s not like it's a gusher. This ewngine
> > doesn't use 1 qt between 3000 mi oil changes, just makes a mess on my
garage
> > floor.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41162393.F14B0DA9@sympatico.ca...
> > > 5 times?
> > >
> > > Wow, are you using RTV on it and not letting it cure for the required
24
> > > hours before adding oil or something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It'll come back, no matter how many times you change it. It may be
a
> > day,
> > > > a
> > > > week, or a month max, but it will come back. Just think of it as
> > > > preservative for the bottom of your tub and drive train.>
> > > >
> > > > I know, since it was new it's been replaced at least 5 times in 65k
> > miles.
> > > > We'll see how long this one goes.
temp. 25lbs+ at hot idle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4116404D.8DE9BBB8@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe it's time to swap the rear bearing for a new one.... How is the
> oil pressure. If the pressure is low or really swingy, that is a sign
> of a worn main bearing.
>
> I am always picky and aware of drying times. RTV is tricky. If it
> doesn't get it's cure time, then it is a 50/50 crap shoot for leaks.
>
> I even use big spot lights and heaters on areas for 24 hours that have
> RTV to cure if the temp is below 'room'.
>
> 3 mm for a bead isn't much either, that is about the size of an HB
> pencil lead.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > One other thought, Mike. The factory manual calls for a "3mm thick bead"
of
> > the anaerobic sealer, placed from the center of the bolt hole, along the
> > edge of the cap right up to the edge of the tabbed ear on the lower seal
> > half. That can be misleading, they mean (according to a Jeep tech buddy)
to
> > make the bead 3mm TALL, which is a lot of sealer. Compression of the
stuff
> > when the main was tapped into place and torqued down made it ooze under
the
> > seal at the ends.
> >
> > Frankly I just think this is one block where the seal clearance is too
> > loose. Compared to any others I've done the upper seal half pops right
out
> > when pushed on. Others I've done may require loosening one or two other
main
> > caps, not this guy.
> >
> > As for the size of the leak, it';s not like it's a gusher. This ewngine
> > doesn't use 1 qt between 3000 mi oil changes, just makes a mess on my
garage
> > floor.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41162393.F14B0DA9@sympatico.ca...
> > > 5 times?
> > >
> > > Wow, are you using RTV on it and not letting it cure for the required
24
> > > hours before adding oil or something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It'll come back, no matter how many times you change it. It may be
a
> > day,
> > > > a
> > > > week, or a month max, but it will come back. Just think of it as
> > > > preservative for the bottom of your tub and drive train.>
> > > >
> > > > I know, since it was new it's been replaced at least 5 times in 65k
> > miles.
> > > > We'll see how long this one goes.
#133
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Re: Blankety-Blank Rear Seal!!!!
Oil pressure is excellent, 50 - 55 lbs at cruising rpm depending upon oil
temp. 25lbs+ at hot idle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4116404D.8DE9BBB8@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe it's time to swap the rear bearing for a new one.... How is the
> oil pressure. If the pressure is low or really swingy, that is a sign
> of a worn main bearing.
>
> I am always picky and aware of drying times. RTV is tricky. If it
> doesn't get it's cure time, then it is a 50/50 crap shoot for leaks.
>
> I even use big spot lights and heaters on areas for 24 hours that have
> RTV to cure if the temp is below 'room'.
>
> 3 mm for a bead isn't much either, that is about the size of an HB
> pencil lead.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > One other thought, Mike. The factory manual calls for a "3mm thick bead"
of
> > the anaerobic sealer, placed from the center of the bolt hole, along the
> > edge of the cap right up to the edge of the tabbed ear on the lower seal
> > half. That can be misleading, they mean (according to a Jeep tech buddy)
to
> > make the bead 3mm TALL, which is a lot of sealer. Compression of the
stuff
> > when the main was tapped into place and torqued down made it ooze under
the
> > seal at the ends.
> >
> > Frankly I just think this is one block where the seal clearance is too
> > loose. Compared to any others I've done the upper seal half pops right
out
> > when pushed on. Others I've done may require loosening one or two other
main
> > caps, not this guy.
> >
> > As for the size of the leak, it';s not like it's a gusher. This ewngine
> > doesn't use 1 qt between 3000 mi oil changes, just makes a mess on my
garage
> > floor.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41162393.F14B0DA9@sympatico.ca...
> > > 5 times?
> > >
> > > Wow, are you using RTV on it and not letting it cure for the required
24
> > > hours before adding oil or something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It'll come back, no matter how many times you change it. It may be
a
> > day,
> > > > a
> > > > week, or a month max, but it will come back. Just think of it as
> > > > preservative for the bottom of your tub and drive train.>
> > > >
> > > > I know, since it was new it's been replaced at least 5 times in 65k
> > miles.
> > > > We'll see how long this one goes.
temp. 25lbs+ at hot idle.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4116404D.8DE9BBB8@sympatico.ca...
> Maybe it's time to swap the rear bearing for a new one.... How is the
> oil pressure. If the pressure is low or really swingy, that is a sign
> of a worn main bearing.
>
> I am always picky and aware of drying times. RTV is tricky. If it
> doesn't get it's cure time, then it is a 50/50 crap shoot for leaks.
>
> I even use big spot lights and heaters on areas for 24 hours that have
> RTV to cure if the temp is below 'room'.
>
> 3 mm for a bead isn't much either, that is about the size of an HB
> pencil lead.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > One other thought, Mike. The factory manual calls for a "3mm thick bead"
of
> > the anaerobic sealer, placed from the center of the bolt hole, along the
> > edge of the cap right up to the edge of the tabbed ear on the lower seal
> > half. That can be misleading, they mean (according to a Jeep tech buddy)
to
> > make the bead 3mm TALL, which is a lot of sealer. Compression of the
stuff
> > when the main was tapped into place and torqued down made it ooze under
the
> > seal at the ends.
> >
> > Frankly I just think this is one block where the seal clearance is too
> > loose. Compared to any others I've done the upper seal half pops right
out
> > when pushed on. Others I've done may require loosening one or two other
main
> > caps, not this guy.
> >
> > As for the size of the leak, it';s not like it's a gusher. This ewngine
> > doesn't use 1 qt between 3000 mi oil changes, just makes a mess on my
garage
> > floor.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41162393.F14B0DA9@sympatico.ca...
> > > 5 times?
> > >
> > > Wow, are you using RTV on it and not letting it cure for the required
24
> > > hours before adding oil or something?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Jerry McG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It'll come back, no matter how many times you change it. It may be
a
> > day,
> > > > a
> > > > week, or a month max, but it will come back. Just think of it as
> > > > preservative for the bottom of your tub and drive train.>
> > > >
> > > > I know, since it was new it's been replaced at least 5 times in 65k
> > miles.
> > > > We'll see how long this one goes.
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