William Oliveri

Given the recent news regarding Black Bear Pass I am wondering just how much
room is there for a jeep to get down?

How much "maneuver" room is there?

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Bill

William Oliveri

From bottom link page:

"If you want to earn maximum points, be on the look out for the meanest
variety of mountain biker. The she-male mountain biker is by far the most
feared of the species. This beast can be recognized by it big mouth,
unshaven legs, and hairy arm pits. Also look for evidence of granola
wrappers and designer water bottles. This is the worst variety of pest that
you will ever meet on the trail. The other common mountain bikers earn fewer
points but remember that the points do accumulate over time."


LOL..


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ncutqFv8g3fU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Given the recent news regarding Black Bear Pass I am wondering just how
much
> room is there for a jeep to get down?
>
> How much "maneuver" room is there?
>
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blacke.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blackc.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html
>
> Bill
>
>

William Oliveri

From bottom link page:

"If you want to earn maximum points, be on the look out for the meanest
variety of mountain biker. The she-male mountain biker is by far the most
feared of the species. This beast can be recognized by it big mouth,
unshaven legs, and hairy arm pits. Also look for evidence of granola
wrappers and designer water bottles. This is the worst variety of pest that
you will ever meet on the trail. The other common mountain bikers earn fewer
points but remember that the points do accumulate over time."


LOL..


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ncutqFv8g3fU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Given the recent news regarding Black Bear Pass I am wondering just how
much
> room is there for a jeep to get down?
>
> How much "maneuver" room is there?
>
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blacke.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blackc.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html
>
> Bill
>
>

William Oliveri

From bottom link page:

"If you want to earn maximum points, be on the look out for the meanest
variety of mountain biker. The she-male mountain biker is by far the most
feared of the species. This beast can be recognized by it big mouth,
unshaven legs, and hairy arm pits. Also look for evidence of granola
wrappers and designer water bottles. This is the worst variety of pest that
you will ever meet on the trail. The other common mountain bikers earn fewer
points but remember that the points do accumulate over time."


LOL..


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ncutqFv8g3fU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Given the recent news regarding Black Bear Pass I am wondering just how
much
> room is there for a jeep to get down?
>
> How much "maneuver" room is there?
>
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blacke.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blackc.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html
>
> Bill
>
>

William Oliveri

From bottom link page:

"If you want to earn maximum points, be on the look out for the meanest
variety of mountain biker. The she-male mountain biker is by far the most
feared of the species. This beast can be recognized by it big mouth,
unshaven legs, and hairy arm pits. Also look for evidence of granola
wrappers and designer water bottles. This is the worst variety of pest that
you will ever meet on the trail. The other common mountain bikers earn fewer
points but remember that the points do accumulate over time."


LOL..


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ncutqFv8g3fU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Given the recent news regarding Black Bear Pass I am wondering just how
much
> room is there for a jeep to get down?
>
> How much "maneuver" room is there?
>
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blacke.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blackc.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html
>
> Bill
>
>

Evan

the pass is a great drive and well maintained, there is about 100 yards that
is the only problem. I would say it's 8' wide, and solid rock, with 90 degree
turn, there are 3 to 5 12"-14" stare steps, there is a creek skirting the road
at the turn, it creates a 3-4 story waterfall, as the road turns sharply to
the right.

I can imagine in the rain, that two things would create a problem, the rock
would be slick, and the creek would not take much to be out of it's banks and
on the rock,

There is not a lot of room to maneuvering, but enough for a full size.

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Evan

the pass is a great drive and well maintained, there is about 100 yards that
is the only problem. I would say it's 8' wide, and solid rock, with 90 degree
turn, there are 3 to 5 12"-14" stare steps, there is a creek skirting the road
at the turn, it creates a 3-4 story waterfall, as the road turns sharply to
the right.

I can imagine in the rain, that two things would create a problem, the rock
would be slick, and the creek would not take much to be out of it's banks and
on the rock,

There is not a lot of room to maneuvering, but enough for a full size.

83 CJ 8, a work in progress
http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Evan

the pass is a great drive and well maintained, there is about 100 yards that
is the only problem. I would say it's 8' wide, and solid rock, with 90 degree
turn, there are 3 to 5 12"-14" stare steps, there is a creek skirting the road
at the turn, it creates a 3-4 story waterfall, as the road turns sharply to
the right.

I can imagine in the rain, that two things would create a problem, the rock
would be slick, and the creek would not take much to be out of it's banks and
on the rock,

There is not a lot of room to maneuvering, but enough for a full size.

83 CJ 8, a work in progress
http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Evan

the pass is a great drive and well maintained, there is about 100 yards that
is the only problem. I would say it's 8' wide, and solid rock, with 90 degree
turn, there are 3 to 5 12"-14" stare steps, there is a creek skirting the road
at the turn, it creates a 3-4 story waterfall, as the road turns sharply to
the right.

I can imagine in the rain, that two things would create a problem, the rock
would be slick, and the creek would not take much to be out of it's banks and
on the rock,

There is not a lot of room to maneuvering, but enough for a full size.

83 CJ 8, a work in progress
http://hometown.aol.com/ebmvi/MyTJindex.html
Take out the "XXX" to e-mail me

Jerry McG

Bill,

The trail starts at Red Mountian Pass between Ouray and Silerton on Hwy 550.
It is relatively easy to begin with, however starts to tighten up after the
pass itself, where it becomes one way (west towards Telluride). It becomes
visually discoincerting, as you face directly down Ingram creek and over a
cliff, with Telluride in the distance far below. As you make the first left
hand three point turn it gradually gets narrower as you cross the falls and
skirt the cliff face to approach the first, very narrow and tight
switchback. The first four switchbacks are the toughest, by the time you get
to the fifth, which is a the road up to the powerhouse, the road become much
wider and two way. You're basically home free at that point.

Re: full size ANYTHING on that trail, DON'T DO IT past the Pass itself.
You'll be ok until you get to the turn above Ingram falls, but the four
upper switchbacks aren't worth the risk, and you can't back out.

FWIW, after the first switchback the next two can lull you a bit, but #4 is
as tough as the first one to many of us.

There's enough room for a standard width / wheelbase Jeep to get down, but
it looks much more difficult than it is and quite unforgiving.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2ncutqFv8g3fU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Given the recent news regarding Black Bear Pass I am wondering just how
much
> room is there for a jeep to get down?
>
> How much "maneuver" room is there?
>
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blacke.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/image...ear/blackc.jpg
> http://www.narrowgauge.org/4x4/html/blkbear.html
>
> Bill
>
>