Bill, you were right
#61
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Re: Bill, you were right
I use 5th gear all the time. Of course, now I have a broken axle, but I
don't think that's a coincidence.
Eric
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1119881695.df82410e8461ac896b3b881b79e5a062@t eranews...
> Avoid overdrive gear. I don't think that it can handle this combination,
> except maybe in a tail wind or a long descent.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42bf8a01$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> I'm hoping that being open with 4.10's, on 33's, and running a 4cyl I
> should
>> be OK.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:QpLve.705$HV1.77@fed1read07...
>> > It's usually adding a locker that makes the difference most of the
>> > time.
>> > 33" tires without a locker CAN snap an axleshaft in a D35c but the
>> > vast majority of such failures with 33" and smaller tires had a locker
>> > in the equation.
>> >
>> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> > > wow... I'm running 33's on my D35 but I'm not locked up. Hope mine
>> doesn't
>> > > break! How wide are your tires?
>> > >
>> > > Carl
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:cjKve.91570$PR6.10313@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> > >
>> > >>I'm running 33's and a D35. The locker was a lock-right from
> powertrax
>> > >
>> > > (or
>> > >
>> > >>so I think...).
>> > >>
>> > >>Be careful if you're wheeling any rocks. If I'd have been locked in
> the
>> > >>front I'd have been ok. But the rear was doing all of the work. I
> was
>> > >>turning and going up a ledge when it broke. Ugly stuff.
>> > >>
>> > >>Eric
>> > >>"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>news:42bf6e37$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > >>
>> > >>>Eric -
>> > >>> What size tires are you running? What kind of locker? What were
> you
>> > >>>doing? I'm concerned because I've got a D35 on 33's.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Carl
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>news:SSJve.91566$PR6.89179@tornado.texas.rr.com ...
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a
> PITA!
>> > >
>> > > I
>> > >
>> > >>>>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite
> lock
>> > >>>>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider
> gears
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > >>>>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the
>> > >>>>front
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > >>>be
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I
>> wasn't
>> > >>>>being too hard on the throttle.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll
>> > >>>>love
>> > >>>>it --
>> > >>>>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We
>> were
>> > >>>>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Eric
>> > >>>>99 TJ SE
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jerry Bransford
>> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> > See the Geezer Jeep at
>> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>
don't think that's a coincidence.
Eric
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1119881695.df82410e8461ac896b3b881b79e5a062@t eranews...
> Avoid overdrive gear. I don't think that it can handle this combination,
> except maybe in a tail wind or a long descent.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42bf8a01$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> I'm hoping that being open with 4.10's, on 33's, and running a 4cyl I
> should
>> be OK.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:QpLve.705$HV1.77@fed1read07...
>> > It's usually adding a locker that makes the difference most of the
>> > time.
>> > 33" tires without a locker CAN snap an axleshaft in a D35c but the
>> > vast majority of such failures with 33" and smaller tires had a locker
>> > in the equation.
>> >
>> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> > > wow... I'm running 33's on my D35 but I'm not locked up. Hope mine
>> doesn't
>> > > break! How wide are your tires?
>> > >
>> > > Carl
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:cjKve.91570$PR6.10313@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> > >
>> > >>I'm running 33's and a D35. The locker was a lock-right from
> powertrax
>> > >
>> > > (or
>> > >
>> > >>so I think...).
>> > >>
>> > >>Be careful if you're wheeling any rocks. If I'd have been locked in
> the
>> > >>front I'd have been ok. But the rear was doing all of the work. I
> was
>> > >>turning and going up a ledge when it broke. Ugly stuff.
>> > >>
>> > >>Eric
>> > >>"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>news:42bf6e37$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > >>
>> > >>>Eric -
>> > >>> What size tires are you running? What kind of locker? What were
> you
>> > >>>doing? I'm concerned because I've got a D35 on 33's.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Carl
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>news:SSJve.91566$PR6.89179@tornado.texas.rr.com ...
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a
> PITA!
>> > >
>> > > I
>> > >
>> > >>>>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite
> lock
>> > >>>>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider
> gears
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > >>>>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the
>> > >>>>front
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > >>>be
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I
>> wasn't
>> > >>>>being too hard on the throttle.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll
>> > >>>>love
>> > >>>>it --
>> > >>>>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We
>> were
>> > >>>>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Eric
>> > >>>>99 TJ SE
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jerry Bransford
>> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> > See the Geezer Jeep at
>> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>
#62
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here's a pic showing me under it. Note the ****** block above me, the tow
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#63
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here's a pic showing me under it. Note the ****** block above me, the tow
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#64
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here's a pic showing me under it. Note the ****** block above me, the tow
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#65
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here's a pic showing me under it. Note the ****** block above me, the tow
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg
Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):
http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43
Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C08EC3.15560172@***.net...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
--
Message posted via CarKB.com
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on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
--
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
--
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
--
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#68
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
--
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
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Re: Bill, you were right
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
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on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
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Re: Bill, you were right
You are just now getting concerned? Lol people amaze me.
KH
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Eric -
> What size tires are you running? What kind of locker? What were you
> doing? I'm concerned because I've got a D35 on 33's.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:SSJve.91566$PR6.89179@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>> think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>> anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>>
>> Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>> will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and
> be
>> done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>>
>> Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>> being too hard on the throttle.
>>
>> I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love
>> it --
>> involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>> going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>
KH
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42bf6e37$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Eric -
> What size tires are you running? What kind of locker? What were you
> doing? I'm concerned because I've got a D35 on 33's.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:SSJve.91566$PR6.89179@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>> think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>> anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>>
>> Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>> will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and
> be
>> done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>>
>> Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>> being too hard on the throttle.
>>
>> I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love
>> it --
>> involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>> going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>