Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
07-04-2006, 04:25 PM
#31
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
31hp per ton ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> What is this a blonde joke?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
31hp per ton ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> What is this a blonde joke?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2006, 04:25 PM
#32
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > What is this a blonde joke?
>
>
> It made power fine before.
>
on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > What is this a blonde joke?
>
>
> It made power fine before.
>
07-04-2006, 04:25 PM
#33
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > What is this a blonde joke?
>
>
> It made power fine before.
>
on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > What is this a blonde joke?
>
>
> It made power fine before.
>
07-04-2006, 04:25 PM
#34
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > What is this a blonde joke?
>
>
> It made power fine before.
>
on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > What is this a blonde joke?
>
>
> It made power fine before.
>
07-04-2006, 04:43 PM
#35
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
So 'fix' it!
Go for a larger carb or jet or whatever puts the fuel in, a high flow
intake with a set of headers and a nice hot coil. Maybe you can Cam it
too.
There has to be a nicer or easier way to get oomph than replacing it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
> on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > > What is this a blonde joke?
> >
> >
> > It made power fine before.
> >
Go for a larger carb or jet or whatever puts the fuel in, a high flow
intake with a set of headers and a nice hot coil. Maybe you can Cam it
too.
There has to be a nicer or easier way to get oomph than replacing it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
> on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > > What is this a blonde joke?
> >
> >
> > It made power fine before.
> >
07-04-2006, 04:43 PM
#36
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
So 'fix' it!
Go for a larger carb or jet or whatever puts the fuel in, a high flow
intake with a set of headers and a nice hot coil. Maybe you can Cam it
too.
There has to be a nicer or easier way to get oomph than replacing it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
> on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > > What is this a blonde joke?
> >
> >
> > It made power fine before.
> >
Go for a larger carb or jet or whatever puts the fuel in, a high flow
intake with a set of headers and a nice hot coil. Maybe you can Cam it
too.
There has to be a nicer or easier way to get oomph than replacing it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
> on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > > What is this a blonde joke?
> >
> >
> > It made power fine before.
> >
07-04-2006, 04:43 PM
#37
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
So 'fix' it!
Go for a larger carb or jet or whatever puts the fuel in, a high flow
intake with a set of headers and a nice hot coil. Maybe you can Cam it
too.
There has to be a nicer or easier way to get oomph than replacing it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
> on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > > What is this a blonde joke?
> >
> >
> > It made power fine before.
> >
Go for a larger carb or jet or whatever puts the fuel in, a high flow
intake with a set of headers and a nice hot coil. Maybe you can Cam it
too.
There has to be a nicer or easier way to get oomph than replacing it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I'm sure it makes close to 100% of what it did new - it only has 62K miles
> on it. Just 144hp is 50% of what I'd like.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152018373.690730.107600@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
> > > of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
> > > What is this a blonde joke?
> >
> >
> > It made power fine before.
> >
07-04-2006, 04:45 PM
#38
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Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
I just did some digging and at least in 1998 that engine was rated at
225 hp and 335 ft/lb of torque.
Is that 144 with the LPG? It really does sound low.
If it was mine the first thing I'd do is give that engine a through
going over including a compression test, timing and all that good stuff,
and make sure everything is in good condition. I've driven one of those
(would have liked to have kept it), and while it wasn't going to take on
any 5.0 Mustangs it had plenty of pep.
If your timing is retarded, or if the timing chain was worn and jumped a
notch that might cause your problem.
Whatever is going on unless there is something really wrong with that
engine it's going to be a LOT cheaper to fix what you have than spend a
bunch of money converting it to something else.
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
> If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
> I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
> 31hp per ton ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
>
>> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
>>of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
>>What is this a blonde joke?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
225 hp and 335 ft/lb of torque.
Is that 144 with the LPG? It really does sound low.
If it was mine the first thing I'd do is give that engine a through
going over including a compression test, timing and all that good stuff,
and make sure everything is in good condition. I've driven one of those
(would have liked to have kept it), and while it wasn't going to take on
any 5.0 Mustangs it had plenty of pep.
If your timing is retarded, or if the timing chain was worn and jumped a
notch that might cause your problem.
Whatever is going on unless there is something really wrong with that
engine it's going to be a LOT cheaper to fix what you have than spend a
bunch of money converting it to something else.
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
> If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
> I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
> 31hp per ton ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
>
>> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
>>of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
>>What is this a blonde joke?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
07-04-2006, 04:45 PM
#39
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Posts: n/a
Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
I just did some digging and at least in 1998 that engine was rated at
225 hp and 335 ft/lb of torque.
Is that 144 with the LPG? It really does sound low.
If it was mine the first thing I'd do is give that engine a through
going over including a compression test, timing and all that good stuff,
and make sure everything is in good condition. I've driven one of those
(would have liked to have kept it), and while it wasn't going to take on
any 5.0 Mustangs it had plenty of pep.
If your timing is retarded, or if the timing chain was worn and jumped a
notch that might cause your problem.
Whatever is going on unless there is something really wrong with that
engine it's going to be a LOT cheaper to fix what you have than spend a
bunch of money converting it to something else.
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
> If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
> I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
> 31hp per ton ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
>
>> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
>>of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
>>What is this a blonde joke?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
225 hp and 335 ft/lb of torque.
Is that 144 with the LPG? It really does sound low.
If it was mine the first thing I'd do is give that engine a through
going over including a compression test, timing and all that good stuff,
and make sure everything is in good condition. I've driven one of those
(would have liked to have kept it), and while it wasn't going to take on
any 5.0 Mustangs it had plenty of pep.
If your timing is retarded, or if the timing chain was worn and jumped a
notch that might cause your problem.
Whatever is going on unless there is something really wrong with that
engine it's going to be a LOT cheaper to fix what you have than spend a
bunch of money converting it to something else.
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
> If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
> I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
> 31hp per ton ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
>
>> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
>>of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
>>What is this a blonde joke?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
07-04-2006, 04:45 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Bill proven wrong some more (took some time).
I just did some digging and at least in 1998 that engine was rated at
225 hp and 335 ft/lb of torque.
Is that 144 with the LPG? It really does sound low.
If it was mine the first thing I'd do is give that engine a through
going over including a compression test, timing and all that good stuff,
and make sure everything is in good condition. I've driven one of those
(would have liked to have kept it), and while it wasn't going to take on
any 5.0 Mustangs it had plenty of pep.
If your timing is retarded, or if the timing chain was worn and jumped a
notch that might cause your problem.
Whatever is going on unless there is something really wrong with that
engine it's going to be a LOT cheaper to fix what you have than spend a
bunch of money converting it to something else.
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
> If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
> I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
> 31hp per ton ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
>
>> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
>>of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
>>What is this a blonde joke?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
225 hp and 335 ft/lb of torque.
Is that 144 with the LPG? It really does sound low.
If it was mine the first thing I'd do is give that engine a through
going over including a compression test, timing and all that good stuff,
and make sure everything is in good condition. I've driven one of those
(would have liked to have kept it), and while it wasn't going to take on
any 5.0 Mustangs it had plenty of pep.
If your timing is retarded, or if the timing chain was worn and jumped a
notch that might cause your problem.
Whatever is going on unless there is something really wrong with that
engine it's going to be a LOT cheaper to fix what you have than spend a
bunch of money converting it to something else.
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Yup, it is quoted *when new* at 144hp for a 5.9 litre 360. Which is pitiful.
> If it had a more respectible 280hp, that would be enough.
> I wouldn't have thought that a drag racer like yourself would be defending
> 31hp per ton ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44AA1A17.9C10DE75@***.net...
>
>> You running LPG and you complain saying your engine only has "50%
>>of enough" in subject line post: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
>>What is this a blonde joke?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>I run LPG in my Wagoneer, so yes, I found it interesting.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>