Bill Bashing
12-14-2006, 09:46 PM
#21
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Re: Bill Bashing
I have found Bill to be about equally helpful and annoying. While he does
provide a lot of good information, it often comes with a lot of unnecessary
baggage. And when he's obviously incorrect, it usually ends up in a flame
battle.
Would the group be better off without Bill? No, but I don't think it would
be much worse off, either, since there are so many other knowledgeable
people, and the signal to noise ratio will probably improve. For the time
being he will remain in my killfile until he is able to resist feeding his
trolls.
"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1166150203.306497.42400@n67g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Same here, This was one of the first Jeep forum's I found and Bill and
> Mike have indirectly taught me alot about jeeps
> Thanks!
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Thanks for saying something that needed to be said Carl, I agree.
>>
>> Bill has been very helpful to me even if I don't have a "real" Jeep, and
>> is a real asset to this group. Every successful automotive newsgroup I
>> know of has a core of real experts, the two most apparent ones on this
>> group are Bill and Mike, I learn something from most all of their
>> posts... unless there are goats or script kiddies involved, those I just
>> ignore.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Carl wrote:
>> > I've been reading this forum for around two years now. Bill
>> > responds
>> > with a helpful link, information, and and answer to my question around
>> > eighty percent of the time. Ten percent of the time, he responds with
>> > something helpful. The other ten percent, he doesn't respond or doesn't
>> > know.
>> >
>> > I think I'm probably one of the last frequent posters to comment
>> > on
>> > this whole Bill-Bashing thing, as I've tried to keep my nose out of it.
>> > Most
>> > of you know I usually avoid internet 'politics' (remember the guy who
>> > threatened to 'beat my ***' because I reccomended a spring-over for a
>> > YJ?).
>> >
>> > I won't post my DD-214. Why? I don't have anything to prove and if
>> > someone on the internet doesn't belive I did my best to serve my
>> > country
>> > then I really don't give a flying small block chevy. Frankly, I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ---- if someone insults me through a keyboard. Every insult
>> > thrown my
>> > way through a keyboard and delivered through usenet passes unmarked.
>> >
>> > Here's what I know. Bill is old, and set in his ways. When he was
>> > young,
>> > times were different. He can probably be an ***. He is opinionated and
>> > stubborn. He's quick to challenge when he feels someone is wrong about
>> > something. He's also knowledgeable and helpful. He has gone through the
>> > trouble of cataloging damn near everything Jeep on the internet on his
>> > personal web site, and makes that availible to all of us.
>> >
>> > Maybe the goat posts cloud our once lovely Jeep haven. Maybe Bill
>> > brought it on himself. I will return to my previous statement. I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ----. Suck up and be a man (or woman) about it. Set up your spam
>> > filters. Delete the garbage on-site. If you have young children, check
>> > the
>> > board and clean it up for them first, or just teach them that there are
>> > stupid people doing stupid things. Parents, you can only depend on
>> > yourselves to protect or teach your children.
>> >
>> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without
>> > Bill. But
>> > being probably around 1/4 of Bill's age, what do I know?
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > PS. Yeah, I know I probably made several spelling and gramatical
>> > errors. Who
>> > cares?
>> >
>> >
>
provide a lot of good information, it often comes with a lot of unnecessary
baggage. And when he's obviously incorrect, it usually ends up in a flame
battle.
Would the group be better off without Bill? No, but I don't think it would
be much worse off, either, since there are so many other knowledgeable
people, and the signal to noise ratio will probably improve. For the time
being he will remain in my killfile until he is able to resist feeding his
trolls.
"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1166150203.306497.42400@n67g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Same here, This was one of the first Jeep forum's I found and Bill and
> Mike have indirectly taught me alot about jeeps
> Thanks!
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Thanks for saying something that needed to be said Carl, I agree.
>>
>> Bill has been very helpful to me even if I don't have a "real" Jeep, and
>> is a real asset to this group. Every successful automotive newsgroup I
>> know of has a core of real experts, the two most apparent ones on this
>> group are Bill and Mike, I learn something from most all of their
>> posts... unless there are goats or script kiddies involved, those I just
>> ignore.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Carl wrote:
>> > I've been reading this forum for around two years now. Bill
>> > responds
>> > with a helpful link, information, and and answer to my question around
>> > eighty percent of the time. Ten percent of the time, he responds with
>> > something helpful. The other ten percent, he doesn't respond or doesn't
>> > know.
>> >
>> > I think I'm probably one of the last frequent posters to comment
>> > on
>> > this whole Bill-Bashing thing, as I've tried to keep my nose out of it.
>> > Most
>> > of you know I usually avoid internet 'politics' (remember the guy who
>> > threatened to 'beat my ***' because I reccomended a spring-over for a
>> > YJ?).
>> >
>> > I won't post my DD-214. Why? I don't have anything to prove and if
>> > someone on the internet doesn't belive I did my best to serve my
>> > country
>> > then I really don't give a flying small block chevy. Frankly, I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ---- if someone insults me through a keyboard. Every insult
>> > thrown my
>> > way through a keyboard and delivered through usenet passes unmarked.
>> >
>> > Here's what I know. Bill is old, and set in his ways. When he was
>> > young,
>> > times were different. He can probably be an ***. He is opinionated and
>> > stubborn. He's quick to challenge when he feels someone is wrong about
>> > something. He's also knowledgeable and helpful. He has gone through the
>> > trouble of cataloging damn near everything Jeep on the internet on his
>> > personal web site, and makes that availible to all of us.
>> >
>> > Maybe the goat posts cloud our once lovely Jeep haven. Maybe Bill
>> > brought it on himself. I will return to my previous statement. I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ----. Suck up and be a man (or woman) about it. Set up your spam
>> > filters. Delete the garbage on-site. If you have young children, check
>> > the
>> > board and clean it up for them first, or just teach them that there are
>> > stupid people doing stupid things. Parents, you can only depend on
>> > yourselves to protect or teach your children.
>> >
>> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without
>> > Bill. But
>> > being probably around 1/4 of Bill's age, what do I know?
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > PS. Yeah, I know I probably made several spelling and gramatical
>> > errors. Who
>> > cares?
>> >
>> >
>
12-14-2006, 09:46 PM
#22
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Posts: n/a
Re: Bill Bashing
I have found Bill to be about equally helpful and annoying. While he does
provide a lot of good information, it often comes with a lot of unnecessary
baggage. And when he's obviously incorrect, it usually ends up in a flame
battle.
Would the group be better off without Bill? No, but I don't think it would
be much worse off, either, since there are so many other knowledgeable
people, and the signal to noise ratio will probably improve. For the time
being he will remain in my killfile until he is able to resist feeding his
trolls.
"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1166150203.306497.42400@n67g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Same here, This was one of the first Jeep forum's I found and Bill and
> Mike have indirectly taught me alot about jeeps
> Thanks!
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Thanks for saying something that needed to be said Carl, I agree.
>>
>> Bill has been very helpful to me even if I don't have a "real" Jeep, and
>> is a real asset to this group. Every successful automotive newsgroup I
>> know of has a core of real experts, the two most apparent ones on this
>> group are Bill and Mike, I learn something from most all of their
>> posts... unless there are goats or script kiddies involved, those I just
>> ignore.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Carl wrote:
>> > I've been reading this forum for around two years now. Bill
>> > responds
>> > with a helpful link, information, and and answer to my question around
>> > eighty percent of the time. Ten percent of the time, he responds with
>> > something helpful. The other ten percent, he doesn't respond or doesn't
>> > know.
>> >
>> > I think I'm probably one of the last frequent posters to comment
>> > on
>> > this whole Bill-Bashing thing, as I've tried to keep my nose out of it.
>> > Most
>> > of you know I usually avoid internet 'politics' (remember the guy who
>> > threatened to 'beat my ***' because I reccomended a spring-over for a
>> > YJ?).
>> >
>> > I won't post my DD-214. Why? I don't have anything to prove and if
>> > someone on the internet doesn't belive I did my best to serve my
>> > country
>> > then I really don't give a flying small block chevy. Frankly, I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ---- if someone insults me through a keyboard. Every insult
>> > thrown my
>> > way through a keyboard and delivered through usenet passes unmarked.
>> >
>> > Here's what I know. Bill is old, and set in his ways. When he was
>> > young,
>> > times were different. He can probably be an ***. He is opinionated and
>> > stubborn. He's quick to challenge when he feels someone is wrong about
>> > something. He's also knowledgeable and helpful. He has gone through the
>> > trouble of cataloging damn near everything Jeep on the internet on his
>> > personal web site, and makes that availible to all of us.
>> >
>> > Maybe the goat posts cloud our once lovely Jeep haven. Maybe Bill
>> > brought it on himself. I will return to my previous statement. I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ----. Suck up and be a man (or woman) about it. Set up your spam
>> > filters. Delete the garbage on-site. If you have young children, check
>> > the
>> > board and clean it up for them first, or just teach them that there are
>> > stupid people doing stupid things. Parents, you can only depend on
>> > yourselves to protect or teach your children.
>> >
>> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without
>> > Bill. But
>> > being probably around 1/4 of Bill's age, what do I know?
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > PS. Yeah, I know I probably made several spelling and gramatical
>> > errors. Who
>> > cares?
>> >
>> >
>
provide a lot of good information, it often comes with a lot of unnecessary
baggage. And when he's obviously incorrect, it usually ends up in a flame
battle.
Would the group be better off without Bill? No, but I don't think it would
be much worse off, either, since there are so many other knowledgeable
people, and the signal to noise ratio will probably improve. For the time
being he will remain in my killfile until he is able to resist feeding his
trolls.
"ufatbastehd" <ufatbasted@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1166150203.306497.42400@n67g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Same here, This was one of the first Jeep forum's I found and Bill and
> Mike have indirectly taught me alot about jeeps
> Thanks!
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Thanks for saying something that needed to be said Carl, I agree.
>>
>> Bill has been very helpful to me even if I don't have a "real" Jeep, and
>> is a real asset to this group. Every successful automotive newsgroup I
>> know of has a core of real experts, the two most apparent ones on this
>> group are Bill and Mike, I learn something from most all of their
>> posts... unless there are goats or script kiddies involved, those I just
>> ignore.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Carl wrote:
>> > I've been reading this forum for around two years now. Bill
>> > responds
>> > with a helpful link, information, and and answer to my question around
>> > eighty percent of the time. Ten percent of the time, he responds with
>> > something helpful. The other ten percent, he doesn't respond or doesn't
>> > know.
>> >
>> > I think I'm probably one of the last frequent posters to comment
>> > on
>> > this whole Bill-Bashing thing, as I've tried to keep my nose out of it.
>> > Most
>> > of you know I usually avoid internet 'politics' (remember the guy who
>> > threatened to 'beat my ***' because I reccomended a spring-over for a
>> > YJ?).
>> >
>> > I won't post my DD-214. Why? I don't have anything to prove and if
>> > someone on the internet doesn't belive I did my best to serve my
>> > country
>> > then I really don't give a flying small block chevy. Frankly, I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ---- if someone insults me through a keyboard. Every insult
>> > thrown my
>> > way through a keyboard and delivered through usenet passes unmarked.
>> >
>> > Here's what I know. Bill is old, and set in his ways. When he was
>> > young,
>> > times were different. He can probably be an ***. He is opinionated and
>> > stubborn. He's quick to challenge when he feels someone is wrong about
>> > something. He's also knowledgeable and helpful. He has gone through the
>> > trouble of cataloging damn near everything Jeep on the internet on his
>> > personal web site, and makes that availible to all of us.
>> >
>> > Maybe the goat posts cloud our once lovely Jeep haven. Maybe Bill
>> > brought it on himself. I will return to my previous statement. I just
>> > don't
>> > give a ----. Suck up and be a man (or woman) about it. Set up your spam
>> > filters. Delete the garbage on-site. If you have young children, check
>> > the
>> > board and clean it up for them first, or just teach them that there are
>> > stupid people doing stupid things. Parents, you can only depend on
>> > yourselves to protect or teach your children.
>> >
>> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without
>> > Bill. But
>> > being probably around 1/4 of Bill's age, what do I know?
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > PS. Yeah, I know I probably made several spelling and gramatical
>> > errors. Who
>> > cares?
>> >
>> >
>
12-17-2006, 08:23 AM
#26
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Re: Bill Bashing
ditto.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7idndtsmu9JAhnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without Bill.
>
> +1, I agree.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7idndtsmu9JAhnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without Bill.
>
> +1, I agree.
12-17-2006, 08:23 AM
#27
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Re: Bill Bashing
ditto.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7idndtsmu9JAhnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without Bill.
>
> +1, I agree.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7idndtsmu9JAhnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without Bill.
>
> +1, I agree.
12-17-2006, 08:23 AM
#28
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Re: Bill Bashing
ditto.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7idndtsmu9JAhnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without Bill.
>
> +1, I agree.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d7idndtsmu9JAhnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> > I honestly feel that this newsgroup would be worse off without Bill.
>
> +1, I agree.
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