Beware of Joe Capraro!
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
Unfortunately, Bill is correct. Although small claims court may, and
probably will rule in your favor, collecting your money is another matter.
Collecting $175 from a deadbeat will be almost impossible. If he doesn't
want to pay the judgment, there is very little you can do, except pay a
lawyer BIG BUCKS to TRY to collect for you.
Tom
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F15D056.5F987DAE@***.net...
> You take days off work, go to court, he doesn't show up, you get
> the judgment, them what?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > Three words;
> > Sue His ***.
> >
> > small claims court.
> > Sue for the amount of the check
> > and court costs.
probably will rule in your favor, collecting your money is another matter.
Collecting $175 from a deadbeat will be almost impossible. If he doesn't
want to pay the judgment, there is very little you can do, except pay a
lawyer BIG BUCKS to TRY to collect for you.
Tom
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F15D056.5F987DAE@***.net...
> You take days off work, go to court, he doesn't show up, you get
> the judgment, them what?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Elflan wrote:
> >
> > Three words;
> > Sue His ***.
> >
> > small claims court.
> > Sue for the amount of the check
> > and court costs.
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
Most deadbeats don't own a business, but if he is an owner of
"Mom's Apple Pie" you can and I have walk in and opened the cash box and
taken the judgment. It's nice to have the cops in on it with you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mabar wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, Bill is correct. Although small claims court may, and
> probably will rule in your favor, collecting your money is another matter.
>
> Collecting $175 from a deadbeat will be almost impossible. If he doesn't
> want to pay the judgment, there is very little you can do, except pay a
> lawyer BIG BUCKS to TRY to collect for you.
>
> Tom
"Mom's Apple Pie" you can and I have walk in and opened the cash box and
taken the judgment. It's nice to have the cops in on it with you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mabar wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, Bill is correct. Although small claims court may, and
> probably will rule in your favor, collecting your money is another matter.
>
> Collecting $175 from a deadbeat will be almost impossible. If he doesn't
> want to pay the judgment, there is very little you can do, except pay a
> lawyer BIG BUCKS to TRY to collect for you.
>
> Tom
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
Bill, I agree, totally. But the newsgroup should be aware of this
guy. And, on the off chance that someone lives close to this place of
business - they might want to know the true colors of the owner of
"Mom's Apple Pie".
Al
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
>lesson in humanity
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeepers,
>> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
>> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
>> and promised to send it immediately.
>> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
>> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
>> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
>> than enough time.
>>
>> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
>> Mom's Apple Pie
>> 281 Main
>> Falmouth, MA 02540
>>
>> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
>> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
>> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
>> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>>
>> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
>> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
>> Thanks, Al Green
>>
>> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
>> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
>> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
>> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
>> Canyon City tire rack
>> Warn 9500i winch
>> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
>> lots of armor underneath
__
Arold "Al" Green
guy. And, on the off chance that someone lives close to this place of
business - they might want to know the true colors of the owner of
"Mom's Apple Pie".
Al
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
>lesson in humanity
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeepers,
>> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
>> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
>> and promised to send it immediately.
>> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
>> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
>> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
>> than enough time.
>>
>> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
>> Mom's Apple Pie
>> 281 Main
>> Falmouth, MA 02540
>>
>> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
>> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
>> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
>> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>>
>> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
>> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
>> Thanks, Al Green
>>
>> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
>> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
>> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
>> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
>> Canyon City tire rack
>> Warn 9500i winch
>> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
>> lots of armor underneath
__
Arold "Al" Green
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
No, actually, I think Thomas is right. The ebay scammer (I think his name
was Jay Nelson...) that was selling computer products on ebay and not
delivering anything was basically nailed by the USPS for mail fraud if I
remember correctly. If the USPS is your delivery system for your product
and you keep the money and don't deliver, it's mail fraud. I think it has
to happen three times to become a felony, though.
TJim
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Thomas,
> I beleive if the mail is used to offer a product for sale. Like we
> order something from the junk mail, and we don't receive it, then it's a
> matter for the Postmaster. But I really believe if you mailed me a check
> and I cash it, I don't have to even say: thank you, Sucker. Maybe our
> resident attorney Robert, may offer a free opinion.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that's mail fraud. It's a felony, I do believe. The fact that he
> > offered something for sale and took payment through the US mail and
> > returned nothing for the money, he has committed mail fraud.
was Jay Nelson...) that was selling computer products on ebay and not
delivering anything was basically nailed by the USPS for mail fraud if I
remember correctly. If the USPS is your delivery system for your product
and you keep the money and don't deliver, it's mail fraud. I think it has
to happen three times to become a felony, though.
TJim
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F15E661.E15B508E@***.net...
> Hi Thomas,
> I beleive if the mail is used to offer a product for sale. Like we
> order something from the junk mail, and we don't receive it, then it's a
> matter for the Postmaster. But I really believe if you mailed me a check
> and I cash it, I don't have to even say: thank you, Sucker. Maybe our
> resident attorney Robert, may offer a free opinion.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Thomas Waldron wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that's mail fraud. It's a felony, I do believe. The fact that he
> > offered something for sale and took payment through the US mail and
> > returned nothing for the money, he has committed mail fraud.
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
Looks like Joe's pretty busy holding his film festival next week. Check out
http://www.woodsholefilmfestival.org...003schd01.html
You may be able to smear his name with his buddies
"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com...
> Hi Jeepers,
> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> and promised to send it immediately.
> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> than enough time.
>
> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>
> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks, Al Green
>
>
>
>
> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> Canyon City tire rack
> Warn 9500i winch
> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> lots of armor underneath
http://www.woodsholefilmfestival.org...003schd01.html
You may be able to smear his name with his buddies
"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:u35bhvkovf9l16f2f3uqlmv96lpbric8p3@4ax.com...
> Hi Jeepers,
> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> and promised to send it immediately.
> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> than enough time.
>
> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> Mom's Apple Pie
> 281 Main
> Falmouth, MA 02540
>
> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
>
> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks, Al Green
>
>
>
>
> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> Canyon City tire rack
> Warn 9500i winch
> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> lots of armor underneath
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
Something like this happened to me once before, but I had paid the scumbag
with a credit card and I got my money refunded once I complained to the
credit card company. I felt bad that he hadn't actually committed any crime
that I could have him prosecuted for.
Make copies of your cancelled check, all correspondence with this guy, and
your written explanation of what has happened, and send them to your United
States District Attorney's Office. (If you live in Massachusetts, contact
the Massachusetts District Attorney with jurisdiction over Falmouth.) That
should get things moving in the right direction.
Earle
"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:b1nbhvsnu3sti38lnlruvabfhigfk9okjh@4ax.com...
> Bill, I agree, totally. But the newsgroup should be aware of this
> guy. And, on the off chance that someone lives close to this place of
> business - they might want to know the true colors of the owner of
> "Mom's Apple Pie".
> Al
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> >Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
> >lesson in humanity
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jeepers,
> >> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> >> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> >> and promised to send it immediately.
> >> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> >> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> >> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> >> than enough time.
> >>
> >> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> >> Mom's Apple Pie
> >> 281 Main
> >> Falmouth, MA 02540
> >>
> >> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> >> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> >> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> >> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
> >>
> >> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> >> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> >> Thanks, Al Green
> >>
> >> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> >> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> >> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> >> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> >> Canyon City tire rack
> >> Warn 9500i winch
> >> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> >> lots of armor underneath
>
> __
> Arold "Al" Green
with a credit card and I got my money refunded once I complained to the
credit card company. I felt bad that he hadn't actually committed any crime
that I could have him prosecuted for.
Make copies of your cancelled check, all correspondence with this guy, and
your written explanation of what has happened, and send them to your United
States District Attorney's Office. (If you live in Massachusetts, contact
the Massachusetts District Attorney with jurisdiction over Falmouth.) That
should get things moving in the right direction.
Earle
"Arold "Al" Green" <aroldg@spamlessmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:b1nbhvsnu3sti38lnlruvabfhigfk9okjh@4ax.com...
> Bill, I agree, totally. But the newsgroup should be aware of this
> guy. And, on the off chance that someone lives close to this place of
> business - they might want to know the true colors of the owner of
> "Mom's Apple Pie".
> Al
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> >Arold, life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Caulk it up to a $175
> >lesson in humanity
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Arold \"Al\" Green wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jeepers,
> >> I responded to a for sale posting on this newsgroup last December.
> >> Sent Joe Capraro $175 for his old Borla header. He cashed the check
> >> and promised to send it immediately.
> >> To make a very long story short - he apparently has no intention of
> >> sending the header or returning my money. This is in spite of several
> >> promises. He claimed illness and bad luck and I have given him more
> >> than enough time.
> >>
> >> He is now one of the owners of a business called:
> >> Mom's Apple Pie
> >> 281 Main
> >> Falmouth, MA 02540
> >>
> >> While he is there, he will not even talk to me on the phone. The
> >> people who answer the phone: (508-540-8572) ask who is calling and
> >> when I tell them my name, he is always busy. This has happened at
> >> least 15 times in the last 3 months and again today.
> >>
> >> If anyone lives near Falmouth and could just ask him why he ripped off
> >> a fellow jeeper, I would appreciate it.
> >> Thanks, Al Green
> >>
> >> 90YJ, 4.2 w/MOPAR FI
> >> OME lift, 1"body & motor lift
> >> 31X10.5 BF Goodrich AT KOs
> >> Tom Wood Tail Shaft Conversion
> >> Canyon City tire rack
> >> Warn 9500i winch
> >> 3.73 Detroit rear & TrueTrac front
> >> lots of armor underneath
>
> __
> Arold "Al" Green
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Taylor, what proof does Arnold have that he mailed the check?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
>
>>How did Joe get the money? Granted maybe Arold sent it overnight via
>>UPS or FedEx but if he didn't then he was defrauded by mail. Just
>>because Joe said his headers were for sale here doesn't exclude the fact
>>that the USPS was used for fraudulent reasons. I doubt you or I could
>>say if Joe had intended to rip people off here or not.
>>
>>Now I know in your case you think you should just let the thief get away
>>with ripping someone off and I don't agree with that. To me a deal is a
>>deal and if one person rips off another there should be consequences for
>>their actions.... Its not the money, its the principle and you let
>>people get away with fraud by only taking the amount of money lost is
>>not good business in my book.
>>
>>--
>>Taylor
>>
>>'89 Audi 200
>>'01 Audi A6 2.7T
>>'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Taylor, what proof does Arnold have that he mailed the check?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
>
>>How did Joe get the money? Granted maybe Arold sent it overnight via
>>UPS or FedEx but if he didn't then he was defrauded by mail. Just
>>because Joe said his headers were for sale here doesn't exclude the fact
>>that the USPS was used for fraudulent reasons. I doubt you or I could
>>say if Joe had intended to rip people off here or not.
>>
>>Now I know in your case you think you should just let the thief get away
>>with ripping someone off and I don't agree with that. To me a deal is a
>>deal and if one person rips off another there should be consequences for
>>their actions.... Its not the money, its the principle and you let
>>people get away with fraud by only taking the amount of money lost is
>>not good business in my book.
>>
>>--
>>Taylor
>>
>>'89 Audi 200
>>'01 Audi A6 2.7T
>>'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>
--
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
I'm a loan officer who also collects his own debt....atty too expensive, dist
atty isn't a bad idea, small claims would be hard because you actually have to
serve him papers...outta state is real hard....could be done with certified
mail if the judge accepts that. The dist atty is a pretty good idea. I've done
that before here in Tulsa, OK. Real simple process although I did have to pay a
fee...but was refunded back when the funds were collected. Try'in to get the
USPS involved sounds pretty good too! My advise call it a learning experience
AND KEEP CALLING lol that will atleast bug the sh*t outta him! Your not a
lender so most if not all laws are void. If he disappears....for a small fee
there are guys who can track him down and all his new ph #'s. I wouldn't worry
about harrasment...most scum like him are too broke to fight back. Best of luck
to ya! Being ripped off sucks bad!
Brian
88 Wrangler
atty isn't a bad idea, small claims would be hard because you actually have to
serve him papers...outta state is real hard....could be done with certified
mail if the judge accepts that. The dist atty is a pretty good idea. I've done
that before here in Tulsa, OK. Real simple process although I did have to pay a
fee...but was refunded back when the funds were collected. Try'in to get the
USPS involved sounds pretty good too! My advise call it a learning experience
AND KEEP CALLING lol that will atleast bug the sh*t outta him! Your not a
lender so most if not all laws are void. If he disappears....for a small fee
there are guys who can track him down and all his new ph #'s. I wouldn't worry
about harrasment...most scum like him are too broke to fight back. Best of luck
to ya! Being ripped off sucks bad!
Brian
88 Wrangler
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
Yup, made out for $175 for what, a lesson well learned? For that
good BJ he gave Arnold last time he was up in Massachusetts?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
> He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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good BJ he gave Arnold last time he was up in Massachusetts?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
> He should have a cancelled check with Joe's sig on it.
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> http://www.jeepn.org/members/html/twaldron.html
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: Beware of Joe Capraro!
If he sent the cheque by the post, then it would be mail fraud.
In any case, a would venture that a complaint to the postmaster general
would inspire some action.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Taylor? What does the Post Office have to do with Al Green writing a
> check and mailing it to Joe Capraro? If there's any fraud involved it
> was in this news group he advertised. Maybe, we should sue this group,
> shall we name you as a defendant?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
> >
> > Go to your local postmaster. You were ripped off by someone utilizing
> > the USPS. Take copies of all your e-mail/letters and let the person
> > deal with the legal authorities.
> >
> > I would call one more time and if Joe doesn't talk to you there and then
> > tell the person on the phone than the minute you hang up you are going
> > to the speak with the US Postal Inspection Service regarding his *MAIL
> > FRAUD* and don't bluff. The minute you hang up without talking to him,
> > do so. Make sure your call is early enough wherever you are at to file
> > both a police and USPIS reports.
> >
> > A criminal record + fines + possible jail time suck for a mere $175.
> >
> > --
> > Taylor
> >
> > '89 Audi 200
> > '01 Audi A6 2.7T
> > '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
In any case, a would venture that a complaint to the postmaster general
would inspire some action.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F15E031.2D97D135@***.net...
> Taylor? What does the Post Office have to do with Al Green writing a
> check and mailing it to Joe Capraro? If there's any fraud involved it
> was in this news group he advertised. Maybe, we should sue this group,
> shall we name you as a defendant?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Just Taylor wrote:
> >
> > Go to your local postmaster. You were ripped off by someone utilizing
> > the USPS. Take copies of all your e-mail/letters and let the person
> > deal with the legal authorities.
> >
> > I would call one more time and if Joe doesn't talk to you there and then
> > tell the person on the phone than the minute you hang up you are going
> > to the speak with the US Postal Inspection Service regarding his *MAIL
> > FRAUD* and don't bluff. The minute you hang up without talking to him,
> > do so. Make sure your call is early enough wherever you are at to file
> > both a police and USPIS reports.
> >
> > A criminal record + fines + possible jail time suck for a mere $175.
> >
> > --
> > Taylor
> >
> > '89 Audi 200
> > '01 Audi A6 2.7T
> > '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport