Best lift on YJ
01-23-2006, 12:18 PM
#1
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Best lift on YJ
So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
01-23-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
Lovs2fly wrote:
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
> like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
> this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
>
If you're only going with 31"'s then you have lots of options... You're
in the right place as PA seems to have a huge Jeep/salvage/Ebay
concentraition (half the used Jeep parts I see on ebay are coming from
PA it seems like)
Cheapest will be either TJ fender flares ($50 bucks at a salvage yard,
$65 off ebay) trimming the sheet metal to match the new flares. Or DIY
lift shackles... 8 pieces of 1/4" X 1.5" X 6" flat bar with holes
drilled will clear your 31"s assuming your stock leafs are good. You'll
also either want to get wheels with more backspacing than stock (4" or
even better 3.75" the stockers are about 5" which means the inside rim
is 5 inches from the mounting surface, this translates to 3.75's
sticking out about; you guessed it 1.25" more than stock wheels and a
little more for the fatter tires. Or adjust the steering stops, but who
wants to lower that great turning radius?
Any way... you need about an inch to an inch and a half of clearence. To
get 31's under there and some wheels that stick out further to keep the
wider tires from rubbing on your springs and for a nice aggressive
squaty stance (looks good in my opinion)... It also translates into a
SERIOUS very noticable increase in cornering and ride stability (very
enjoyable).
BTW My YJ just went from a 1.5 inch shackle lift with 3.75" BS steelies,
to a 5.5 inch suspension lift for putting on 33's.
Buying lift shackles is also a cheap option. Add a leaf lifts are in
between, but are not well liked by the "conventional wisdom" (AKA
opinions around here).
If you are really going to do some wheeling I would recomend a more
serious suspension lift springs and shocks, extended brake lines etc.
THis is where you start spending money though.... from 350 bucks on ebay
for a used but complete 3 (or more) inch kit, to several thousand at
your local 4x4 shop... think $1500 before labor...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
> like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
> this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
>
If you're only going with 31"'s then you have lots of options... You're
in the right place as PA seems to have a huge Jeep/salvage/Ebay
concentraition (half the used Jeep parts I see on ebay are coming from
PA it seems like)
Cheapest will be either TJ fender flares ($50 bucks at a salvage yard,
$65 off ebay) trimming the sheet metal to match the new flares. Or DIY
lift shackles... 8 pieces of 1/4" X 1.5" X 6" flat bar with holes
drilled will clear your 31"s assuming your stock leafs are good. You'll
also either want to get wheels with more backspacing than stock (4" or
even better 3.75" the stockers are about 5" which means the inside rim
is 5 inches from the mounting surface, this translates to 3.75's
sticking out about; you guessed it 1.25" more than stock wheels and a
little more for the fatter tires. Or adjust the steering stops, but who
wants to lower that great turning radius?
Any way... you need about an inch to an inch and a half of clearence. To
get 31's under there and some wheels that stick out further to keep the
wider tires from rubbing on your springs and for a nice aggressive
squaty stance (looks good in my opinion)... It also translates into a
SERIOUS very noticable increase in cornering and ride stability (very
enjoyable).
BTW My YJ just went from a 1.5 inch shackle lift with 3.75" BS steelies,
to a 5.5 inch suspension lift for putting on 33's.
Buying lift shackles is also a cheap option. Add a leaf lifts are in
between, but are not well liked by the "conventional wisdom" (AKA
opinions around here).
If you are really going to do some wheeling I would recomend a more
serious suspension lift springs and shocks, extended brake lines etc.
THis is where you start spending money though.... from 350 bucks on ebay
for a used but complete 3 (or more) inch kit, to several thousand at
your local 4x4 shop... think $1500 before labor...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
01-23-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
Lovs2fly wrote:
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
> like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
> this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
>
If you're only going with 31"'s then you have lots of options... You're
in the right place as PA seems to have a huge Jeep/salvage/Ebay
concentraition (half the used Jeep parts I see on ebay are coming from
PA it seems like)
Cheapest will be either TJ fender flares ($50 bucks at a salvage yard,
$65 off ebay) trimming the sheet metal to match the new flares. Or DIY
lift shackles... 8 pieces of 1/4" X 1.5" X 6" flat bar with holes
drilled will clear your 31"s assuming your stock leafs are good. You'll
also either want to get wheels with more backspacing than stock (4" or
even better 3.75" the stockers are about 5" which means the inside rim
is 5 inches from the mounting surface, this translates to 3.75's
sticking out about; you guessed it 1.25" more than stock wheels and a
little more for the fatter tires. Or adjust the steering stops, but who
wants to lower that great turning radius?
Any way... you need about an inch to an inch and a half of clearence. To
get 31's under there and some wheels that stick out further to keep the
wider tires from rubbing on your springs and for a nice aggressive
squaty stance (looks good in my opinion)... It also translates into a
SERIOUS very noticable increase in cornering and ride stability (very
enjoyable).
BTW My YJ just went from a 1.5 inch shackle lift with 3.75" BS steelies,
to a 5.5 inch suspension lift for putting on 33's.
Buying lift shackles is also a cheap option. Add a leaf lifts are in
between, but are not well liked by the "conventional wisdom" (AKA
opinions around here).
If you are really going to do some wheeling I would recomend a more
serious suspension lift springs and shocks, extended brake lines etc.
THis is where you start spending money though.... from 350 bucks on ebay
for a used but complete 3 (or more) inch kit, to several thousand at
your local 4x4 shop... think $1500 before labor...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
> like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
> this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
>
If you're only going with 31"'s then you have lots of options... You're
in the right place as PA seems to have a huge Jeep/salvage/Ebay
concentraition (half the used Jeep parts I see on ebay are coming from
PA it seems like)
Cheapest will be either TJ fender flares ($50 bucks at a salvage yard,
$65 off ebay) trimming the sheet metal to match the new flares. Or DIY
lift shackles... 8 pieces of 1/4" X 1.5" X 6" flat bar with holes
drilled will clear your 31"s assuming your stock leafs are good. You'll
also either want to get wheels with more backspacing than stock (4" or
even better 3.75" the stockers are about 5" which means the inside rim
is 5 inches from the mounting surface, this translates to 3.75's
sticking out about; you guessed it 1.25" more than stock wheels and a
little more for the fatter tires. Or adjust the steering stops, but who
wants to lower that great turning radius?
Any way... you need about an inch to an inch and a half of clearence. To
get 31's under there and some wheels that stick out further to keep the
wider tires from rubbing on your springs and for a nice aggressive
squaty stance (looks good in my opinion)... It also translates into a
SERIOUS very noticable increase in cornering and ride stability (very
enjoyable).
BTW My YJ just went from a 1.5 inch shackle lift with 3.75" BS steelies,
to a 5.5 inch suspension lift for putting on 33's.
Buying lift shackles is also a cheap option. Add a leaf lifts are in
between, but are not well liked by the "conventional wisdom" (AKA
opinions around here).
If you are really going to do some wheeling I would recomend a more
serious suspension lift springs and shocks, extended brake lines etc.
THis is where you start spending money though.... from 350 bucks on ebay
for a used but complete 3 (or more) inch kit, to several thousand at
your local 4x4 shop... think $1500 before labor...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
01-23-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
Lovs2fly wrote:
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
> like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
> this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
>
If you're only going with 31"'s then you have lots of options... You're
in the right place as PA seems to have a huge Jeep/salvage/Ebay
concentraition (half the used Jeep parts I see on ebay are coming from
PA it seems like)
Cheapest will be either TJ fender flares ($50 bucks at a salvage yard,
$65 off ebay) trimming the sheet metal to match the new flares. Or DIY
lift shackles... 8 pieces of 1/4" X 1.5" X 6" flat bar with holes
drilled will clear your 31"s assuming your stock leafs are good. You'll
also either want to get wheels with more backspacing than stock (4" or
even better 3.75" the stockers are about 5" which means the inside rim
is 5 inches from the mounting surface, this translates to 3.75's
sticking out about; you guessed it 1.25" more than stock wheels and a
little more for the fatter tires. Or adjust the steering stops, but who
wants to lower that great turning radius?
Any way... you need about an inch to an inch and a half of clearence. To
get 31's under there and some wheels that stick out further to keep the
wider tires from rubbing on your springs and for a nice aggressive
squaty stance (looks good in my opinion)... It also translates into a
SERIOUS very noticable increase in cornering and ride stability (very
enjoyable).
BTW My YJ just went from a 1.5 inch shackle lift with 3.75" BS steelies,
to a 5.5 inch suspension lift for putting on 33's.
Buying lift shackles is also a cheap option. Add a leaf lifts are in
between, but are not well liked by the "conventional wisdom" (AKA
opinions around here).
If you are really going to do some wheeling I would recomend a more
serious suspension lift springs and shocks, extended brake lines etc.
THis is where you start spending money though.... from 350 bucks on ebay
for a used but complete 3 (or more) inch kit, to several thousand at
your local 4x4 shop... think $1500 before labor...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I would
> like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play into
> this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
>
If you're only going with 31"'s then you have lots of options... You're
in the right place as PA seems to have a huge Jeep/salvage/Ebay
concentraition (half the used Jeep parts I see on ebay are coming from
PA it seems like)
Cheapest will be either TJ fender flares ($50 bucks at a salvage yard,
$65 off ebay) trimming the sheet metal to match the new flares. Or DIY
lift shackles... 8 pieces of 1/4" X 1.5" X 6" flat bar with holes
drilled will clear your 31"s assuming your stock leafs are good. You'll
also either want to get wheels with more backspacing than stock (4" or
even better 3.75" the stockers are about 5" which means the inside rim
is 5 inches from the mounting surface, this translates to 3.75's
sticking out about; you guessed it 1.25" more than stock wheels and a
little more for the fatter tires. Or adjust the steering stops, but who
wants to lower that great turning radius?
Any way... you need about an inch to an inch and a half of clearence. To
get 31's under there and some wheels that stick out further to keep the
wider tires from rubbing on your springs and for a nice aggressive
squaty stance (looks good in my opinion)... It also translates into a
SERIOUS very noticable increase in cornering and ride stability (very
enjoyable).
BTW My YJ just went from a 1.5 inch shackle lift with 3.75" BS steelies,
to a 5.5 inch suspension lift for putting on 33's.
Buying lift shackles is also a cheap option. Add a leaf lifts are in
between, but are not well liked by the "conventional wisdom" (AKA
opinions around here).
If you are really going to do some wheeling I would recomend a more
serious suspension lift springs and shocks, extended brake lines etc.
THis is where you start spending money though.... from 350 bucks on ebay
for a used but complete 3 (or more) inch kit, to several thousand at
your local 4x4 shop... think $1500 before labor...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
01-23-2006, 08:36 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
Spring-over or lift shackles.
Carl
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
Carl
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
01-23-2006, 08:36 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
Spring-over or lift shackles.
Carl
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
Carl
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
01-23-2006, 08:36 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
Spring-over or lift shackles.
Carl
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
Carl
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
01-23-2006, 09:27 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
I have a stock suspension 94 yj and have run 31" tires for the last 4 years
with little trouble. I do some low key off-road, they rub on occasion. About
a year ago I finally put a washer behind the wheel stop so they wouldn't rub
when turning tight, I hardly notice a difference in turning radius.
I do have stock gears and 4cyl which is more than slow going up into the
mountians 6,000 ft where I live. I'm a generally patient man, if I wanted to
go fast I'd buy a mustang.
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
with little trouble. I do some low key off-road, they rub on occasion. About
a year ago I finally put a washer behind the wheel stop so they wouldn't rub
when turning tight, I hardly notice a difference in turning radius.
I do have stock gears and 4cyl which is more than slow going up into the
mountians 6,000 ft where I live. I'm a generally patient man, if I wanted to
go fast I'd buy a mustang.
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
01-23-2006, 09:27 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
I have a stock suspension 94 yj and have run 31" tires for the last 4 years
with little trouble. I do some low key off-road, they rub on occasion. About
a year ago I finally put a washer behind the wheel stop so they wouldn't rub
when turning tight, I hardly notice a difference in turning radius.
I do have stock gears and 4cyl which is more than slow going up into the
mountians 6,000 ft where I live. I'm a generally patient man, if I wanted to
go fast I'd buy a mustang.
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
with little trouble. I do some low key off-road, they rub on occasion. About
a year ago I finally put a washer behind the wheel stop so they wouldn't rub
when turning tight, I hardly notice a difference in turning radius.
I do have stock gears and 4cyl which is more than slow going up into the
mountians 6,000 ft where I live. I'm a generally patient man, if I wanted to
go fast I'd buy a mustang.
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
01-23-2006, 09:27 PM
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Re: Best lift on YJ
I have a stock suspension 94 yj and have run 31" tires for the last 4 years
with little trouble. I do some low key off-road, they rub on occasion. About
a year ago I finally put a washer behind the wheel stop so they wouldn't rub
when turning tight, I hardly notice a difference in turning radius.
I do have stock gears and 4cyl which is more than slow going up into the
mountians 6,000 ft where I live. I'm a generally patient man, if I wanted to
go fast I'd buy a mustang.
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>
with little trouble. I do some low key off-road, they rub on occasion. About
a year ago I finally put a washer behind the wheel stop so they wouldn't rub
when turning tight, I hardly notice a difference in turning radius.
I do have stock gears and 4cyl which is more than slow going up into the
mountians 6,000 ft where I live. I'm a generally patient man, if I wanted to
go fast I'd buy a mustang.
"Lovs2fly" <lovs2fly@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5eCdnTKtxut5kkjeRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> So now my teardown is complete and the body and frame are out to sand
> blasting I need to decide on a lift kit.
>
> I have a 93 YJ that will be intended for mostly beach driving and some
> off-road. I live in PA so I will be somewhat limited in my trails.
>
> My question is do I go with a body or suspension lift and how high. I
> would like to set this up for 31" tires. I'm on a budget so cost will play
> into this. Any recommendations for kits out there?
>