Rod Gramlich

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
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> The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
> into the exisiting heater lines.


That is arguably true. I also have done the front blower motor upgrade (82
CJ), but that's really ans auxillary heater, per se. The first winter I had
that beast (mid north in Canada), I added a rear heater (behind the rear
seat). I picked up a core c/w blower motor from a wreckers (out of a Dodge
Omni ...... probably 8" x 14" x 8"). I spliced into heater hoses in engine
compartment (behind temp baffle) and ran hoses through firewall and through
cab into rear of cab. I then built my own speed control ... and voila
.............. HEAT !!!!!!!

Josh Dirkson

Thanks for the replies. I knew of the GM heater blower upgrade but haven't
had time to do it. Plus the "2 hour" job will definitely not be 2 hours for
me.
However, I DO plan on doing it someday - i was really just looking for a
temp fix.

thanks again!

Cheers.
Josh (gotta love Canadian winters)
'90 YJ
Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:NHsid.17207$KJ6.14334@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
> into the exisiting heater lines. Something on the order of these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-4509/c-10101
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-5029/c-10101
>
> Don't even think about those eletric ones run off the cigarette lighter.
>
> The other guys mentioned the new blower motor, I've done it on mine,
> works great. I still think that if you have a good system, you should
> not need aux heat. To get there, you need to do the full program:
>
> 1)Upgrade the heater fan
> 2)New 192 degree thermostat
> 3)Drain and flush the system, refill with fresh antifreeze
> 4)Back flush the heater core rebuild or replace as necessary. I can get
> a heater core rodded out and rebuilt for $30, takes about a day to have
> it done if you drop it off at any radiator shop.
> 5) Check the damper doors in the heater box to make sure they are not
> sticking. (The plastic housing warps over the years, the bypass doors
> tend to not close properly.)
>
> #1, 4, and 5 really get done all together since you need to pull the
> heater box. Just because you will soon ask: the 4th bolt is over on the
> driver's side, behind the valve cover.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Josh Dirkson wrote:
> > Hey Everyone...it has to have been over a year since i last posted here,
and
> > it's nice to see some of the same people still hanging around!
> >
> > Anyway, winter and the snow are just around the corner, and i'm not sure
if
> > I can go another winter without some more heat in the Jeep ('90 YJ -
that's
> > right, terrible blower motor). Just wanted to know if anyone has
experience
> > with additional heaters in the Jeep and what the best kind/brand is to
get.
> >
> > If anyone has any insight - it'd be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > Josh
> > '90 YJ
> > Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
> >
> >

Josh Dirkson

Thanks for the replies. I knew of the GM heater blower upgrade but haven't
had time to do it. Plus the "2 hour" job will definitely not be 2 hours for
me.
However, I DO plan on doing it someday - i was really just looking for a
temp fix.

thanks again!

Cheers.
Josh (gotta love Canadian winters)
'90 YJ
Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine


"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:NHsid.17207$KJ6.14334@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
> into the exisiting heater lines. Something on the order of these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-4509/c-10101
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-5029/c-10101
>
> Don't even think about those eletric ones run off the cigarette lighter.
>
> The other guys mentioned the new blower motor, I've done it on mine,
> works great. I still think that if you have a good system, you should
> not need aux heat. To get there, you need to do the full program:
>
> 1)Upgrade the heater fan
> 2)New 192 degree thermostat
> 3)Drain and flush the system, refill with fresh antifreeze
> 4)Back flush the heater core rebuild or replace as necessary. I can get
> a heater core rodded out and rebuilt for $30, takes about a day to have
> it done if you drop it off at any radiator shop.
> 5) Check the damper doors in the heater box to make sure they are not
> sticking. (The plastic housing warps over the years, the bypass doors
> tend to not close properly.)
>
> #1, 4, and 5 really get done all together since you need to pull the
> heater box. Just because you will soon ask: the 4th bolt is over on the
> driver's side, behind the valve cover.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Josh Dirkson wrote:
> > Hey Everyone...it has to have been over a year since i last posted here,
and
> > it's nice to see some of the same people still hanging around!
> >
> > Anyway, winter and the snow are just around the corner, and i'm not sure
if
> > I can go another winter without some more heat in the Jeep ('90 YJ -
that's
> > right, terrible blower motor). Just wanted to know if anyone has
experience
> > with additional heaters in the Jeep and what the best kind/brand is to
get.
> >
> > If anyone has any insight - it'd be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > Josh
> > '90 YJ
> > Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
> >
> >

Jeepster

I say make the time if you really want to be warm this winter, I doubt
any quick fix will give you the results you want.. I did it on mine
and it is the best mod I have done on my vehicle ....
I also take the time each year to do the following:

1.) Stuff insulating material into the floor vent above the gas pedal
2.) Duct tape over the passenger side vent
3.) Remove hardtop and put new foam strip along top sealing edges.
4.) Install my hardtop liner ( made for me by the wife out of
thinsulate)

On a side note if you should check your thermostat and if you have a 4
banger take the shroud off ....... that made a big difference on my
son's 2.5L YJ.

All of these things combined with the Chevy blower and I'm toasty here
in Edmonton area where -40 C is not uncommon.





On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:08:25 -0600, "Josh Dirkson"
<je.dirkson@NOSPAMsasktel.net> wrote:

>Thanks for the replies. I knew of the GM heater blower upgrade but haven't
>had time to do it. Plus the "2 hour" job will definitely not be 2 hours for
>me.
>However, I DO plan on doing it someday - i was really just looking for a
>temp fix.
>
>thanks again!
>
>Cheers.
>Josh (gotta love Canadian winters)
>'90 YJ
>Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
>
>
>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>news:NHsid.17207$KJ6.14334@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>> The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
>> into the exisiting heater lines. Something on the order of these:
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-4509/c-10101
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-5029/c-10101
>>
>> Don't even think about those eletric ones run off the cigarette lighter.
>>
>> The other guys mentioned the new blower motor, I've done it on mine,
>> works great. I still think that if you have a good system, you should
>> not need aux heat. To get there, you need to do the full program:
>>
>> 1)Upgrade the heater fan
>> 2)New 192 degree thermostat
>> 3)Drain and flush the system, refill with fresh antifreeze
>> 4)Back flush the heater core rebuild or replace as necessary. I can get
>> a heater core rodded out and rebuilt for $30, takes about a day to have
>> it done if you drop it off at any radiator shop.
>> 5) Check the damper doors in the heater box to make sure they are not
>> sticking. (The plastic housing warps over the years, the bypass doors
>> tend to not close properly.)
>>
>> #1, 4, and 5 really get done all together since you need to pull the
>> heater box. Just because you will soon ask: the 4th bolt is over on the
>> driver's side, behind the valve cover.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Josh Dirkson wrote:
>> > Hey Everyone...it has to have been over a year since i last posted here,
>and
>> > it's nice to see some of the same people still hanging around!
>> >
>> > Anyway, winter and the snow are just around the corner, and i'm not sure
>if
>> > I can go another winter without some more heat in the Jeep ('90 YJ -
>that's
>> > right, terrible blower motor). Just wanted to know if anyone has
>experience
>> > with additional heaters in the Jeep and what the best kind/brand is to
>get.
>> >
>> > If anyone has any insight - it'd be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> > Josh
>> > '90 YJ
>> > Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
>> >
>> >
>

Jeepster

I say make the time if you really want to be warm this winter, I doubt
any quick fix will give you the results you want.. I did it on mine
and it is the best mod I have done on my vehicle ....
I also take the time each year to do the following:

1.) Stuff insulating material into the floor vent above the gas pedal
2.) Duct tape over the passenger side vent
3.) Remove hardtop and put new foam strip along top sealing edges.
4.) Install my hardtop liner ( made for me by the wife out of
thinsulate)

On a side note if you should check your thermostat and if you have a 4
banger take the shroud off ....... that made a big difference on my
son's 2.5L YJ.

All of these things combined with the Chevy blower and I'm toasty here
in Edmonton area where -40 C is not uncommon.





On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:08:25 -0600, "Josh Dirkson"
<je.dirkson@NOSPAMsasktel.net> wrote:

>Thanks for the replies. I knew of the GM heater blower upgrade but haven't
>had time to do it. Plus the "2 hour" job will definitely not be 2 hours for
>me.
>However, I DO plan on doing it someday - i was really just looking for a
>temp fix.
>
>thanks again!
>
>Cheers.
>Josh (gotta love Canadian winters)
>'90 YJ
>Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
>
>
>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>news:NHsid.17207$KJ6.14334@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>> The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
>> into the exisiting heater lines. Something on the order of these:
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-4509/c-10101
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-5029/c-10101
>>
>> Don't even think about those eletric ones run off the cigarette lighter.
>>
>> The other guys mentioned the new blower motor, I've done it on mine,
>> works great. I still think that if you have a good system, you should
>> not need aux heat. To get there, you need to do the full program:
>>
>> 1)Upgrade the heater fan
>> 2)New 192 degree thermostat
>> 3)Drain and flush the system, refill with fresh antifreeze
>> 4)Back flush the heater core rebuild or replace as necessary. I can get
>> a heater core rodded out and rebuilt for $30, takes about a day to have
>> it done if you drop it off at any radiator shop.
>> 5) Check the damper doors in the heater box to make sure they are not
>> sticking. (The plastic housing warps over the years, the bypass doors
>> tend to not close properly.)
>>
>> #1, 4, and 5 really get done all together since you need to pull the
>> heater box. Just because you will soon ask: the 4th bolt is over on the
>> driver's side, behind the valve cover.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Josh Dirkson wrote:
>> > Hey Everyone...it has to have been over a year since i last posted here,
>and
>> > it's nice to see some of the same people still hanging around!
>> >
>> > Anyway, winter and the snow are just around the corner, and i'm not sure
>if
>> > I can go another winter without some more heat in the Jeep ('90 YJ -
>that's
>> > right, terrible blower motor). Just wanted to know if anyone has
>experience
>> > with additional heaters in the Jeep and what the best kind/brand is to
>get.
>> >
>> > If anyone has any insight - it'd be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> > Josh
>> > '90 YJ
>> > Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
>> >
>> >
>

Rod Gramlich

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:mhulo0162ss231ie6p46hc7ef7i06adk56@4ax.com...
>
> All of these things combined with the Chevy blower and I'm toasty here
> in Edmonton

.................. get outta here !!!! ..... well, that's two of us :)

Rod Gramlich

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:mhulo0162ss231ie6p46hc7ef7i06adk56@4ax.com...
>
> All of these things combined with the Chevy blower and I'm toasty here
> in Edmonton

.................. get outta here !!!! ..... well, that's two of us :)

griffin

Trust me ...it's really an easy job ...as long as you get the RIGHT BLOWER
MOTOR!! I'm an unfortunate example of what happens when you buy the
"premium" blower motor from GM ...6 hours of install time, lots of extra
cutting and reinsulating, and lots of aggravation.

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"Josh Dirkson" <je.dirkson@NOSPAMsasktel.net> wrote in message
news:10ola5ch834i814@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks for the replies. I knew of the GM heater blower upgrade but haven't
> had time to do it. Plus the "2 hour" job will definitely not be 2 hours
for
> me.
> However, I DO plan on doing it someday - i was really just looking for a
> temp fix.
>
> thanks again!
>
> Cheers.
> Josh (gotta love Canadian winters)
> '90 YJ
> Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
>
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:NHsid.17207$KJ6.14334@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
> > into the exisiting heater lines. Something on the order of these:
> > http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-4509/c-10101
> > http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-5029/c-10101
> >
> > Don't even think about those eletric ones run off the cigarette lighter.
> >
> > The other guys mentioned the new blower motor, I've done it on mine,
> > works great. I still think that if you have a good system, you should
> > not need aux heat. To get there, you need to do the full program:
> >
> > 1)Upgrade the heater fan
> > 2)New 192 degree thermostat
> > 3)Drain and flush the system, refill with fresh antifreeze
> > 4)Back flush the heater core rebuild or replace as necessary. I can get
> > a heater core rodded out and rebuilt for $30, takes about a day to have
> > it done if you drop it off at any radiator shop.
> > 5) Check the damper doors in the heater box to make sure they are not
> > sticking. (The plastic housing warps over the years, the bypass doors
> > tend to not close properly.)
> >
> > #1, 4, and 5 really get done all together since you need to pull the
> > heater box. Just because you will soon ask: the 4th bolt is over on the
> > driver's side, behind the valve cover.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Josh Dirkson wrote:
> > > Hey Everyone...it has to have been over a year since i last posted
here,
> and
> > > it's nice to see some of the same people still hanging around!
> > >
> > > Anyway, winter and the snow are just around the corner, and i'm not
sure
> if
> > > I can go another winter without some more heat in the Jeep ('90 YJ -
> that's
> > > right, terrible blower motor). Just wanted to know if anyone has
> experience
> > > with additional heaters in the Jeep and what the best kind/brand is to
> get.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any insight - it'd be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > > Josh
> > > '90 YJ
> > > Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
> > >
> > >
>
>

griffin

Trust me ...it's really an easy job ...as long as you get the RIGHT BLOWER
MOTOR!! I'm an unfortunate example of what happens when you buy the
"premium" blower motor from GM ...6 hours of install time, lots of extra
cutting and reinsulating, and lots of aggravation.

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"Josh Dirkson" <je.dirkson@NOSPAMsasktel.net> wrote in message
news:10ola5ch834i814@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks for the replies. I knew of the GM heater blower upgrade but haven't
> had time to do it. Plus the "2 hour" job will definitely not be 2 hours
for
> me.
> However, I DO plan on doing it someday - i was really just looking for a
> temp fix.
>
> thanks again!
>
> Cheers.
> Josh (gotta love Canadian winters)
> '90 YJ
> Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
>
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:NHsid.17207$KJ6.14334@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > The only auxillary heaters worth anything are the ones that are plumbed
> > into the exisiting heater lines. Something on the order of these:
> > http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-4509/c-10101
> > http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-5029/c-10101
> >
> > Don't even think about those eletric ones run off the cigarette lighter.
> >
> > The other guys mentioned the new blower motor, I've done it on mine,
> > works great. I still think that if you have a good system, you should
> > not need aux heat. To get there, you need to do the full program:
> >
> > 1)Upgrade the heater fan
> > 2)New 192 degree thermostat
> > 3)Drain and flush the system, refill with fresh antifreeze
> > 4)Back flush the heater core rebuild or replace as necessary. I can get
> > a heater core rodded out and rebuilt for $30, takes about a day to have
> > it done if you drop it off at any radiator shop.
> > 5) Check the damper doors in the heater box to make sure they are not
> > sticking. (The plastic housing warps over the years, the bypass doors
> > tend to not close properly.)
> >
> > #1, 4, and 5 really get done all together since you need to pull the
> > heater box. Just because you will soon ask: the 4th bolt is over on the
> > driver's side, behind the valve cover.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Josh Dirkson wrote:
> > > Hey Everyone...it has to have been over a year since i last posted
here,
> and
> > > it's nice to see some of the same people still hanging around!
> > >
> > > Anyway, winter and the snow are just around the corner, and i'm not
sure
> if
> > > I can go another winter without some more heat in the Jeep ('90 YJ -
> that's
> > > right, terrible blower motor). Just wanted to know if anyone has
> experience
> > > with additional heaters in the Jeep and what the best kind/brand is to
> get.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any insight - it'd be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > > Josh
> > > '90 YJ
> > > Black, Tuffy, 31's, 1.5" susp, Alpine
> > >
> > >
>
>