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michael.white@charter.net 10-14-2007 07:22 PM

Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
Hi all,

I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?

Thanks,
Michael


c 10-14-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


If you can't figure out the cause, and you know someone with a lathe,
have them machine some duplicates out of Delrin. It is very durable for
applications like this.

Chris

c 10-14-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


If you can't figure out the cause, and you know someone with a lathe,
have them machine some duplicates out of Delrin. It is very durable for
applications like this.

Chris

c 10-14-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


If you can't figure out the cause, and you know someone with a lathe,
have them machine some duplicates out of Delrin. It is very durable for
applications like this.

Chris

c 10-14-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


If you can't figure out the cause, and you know someone with a lathe,
have them machine some duplicates out of Delrin. It is very durable for
applications like this.

Chris

Mike Romain 10-14-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
I know the 258 has a wicked twist to it when it torques, especially if
you have bigger than stock tires on it. I tear the crap out of my
mounts. I shattered the last one that failed.

My CJ7 also has/had a wicked twist to it off road:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

I'll bet that one really pulled on it!

That said, you can adjust the bell crank so it is a bit closer to the
engine with the slotted mount holes which 'might' help.

I just gave up and adjusted the linkage to take up the slop. I recently
picked up a new bellcrank and got a new frame yesterday so will install
both together. I am going to move it over closer to the engine on
'this', the second frame up build though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590

michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


Mike Romain 10-14-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
I know the 258 has a wicked twist to it when it torques, especially if
you have bigger than stock tires on it. I tear the crap out of my
mounts. I shattered the last one that failed.

My CJ7 also has/had a wicked twist to it off road:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

I'll bet that one really pulled on it!

That said, you can adjust the bell crank so it is a bit closer to the
engine with the slotted mount holes which 'might' help.

I just gave up and adjusted the linkage to take up the slop. I recently
picked up a new bellcrank and got a new frame yesterday so will install
both together. I am going to move it over closer to the engine on
'this', the second frame up build though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590

michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


Mike Romain 10-14-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
I know the 258 has a wicked twist to it when it torques, especially if
you have bigger than stock tires on it. I tear the crap out of my
mounts. I shattered the last one that failed.

My CJ7 also has/had a wicked twist to it off road:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

I'll bet that one really pulled on it!

That said, you can adjust the bell crank so it is a bit closer to the
engine with the slotted mount holes which 'might' help.

I just gave up and adjusted the linkage to take up the slop. I recently
picked up a new bellcrank and got a new frame yesterday so will install
both together. I am going to move it over closer to the engine on
'this', the second frame up build though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590

michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


Mike Romain 10-14-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
I know the 258 has a wicked twist to it when it torques, especially if
you have bigger than stock tires on it. I tear the crap out of my
mounts. I shattered the last one that failed.

My CJ7 also has/had a wicked twist to it off road:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

I'll bet that one really pulled on it!

That said, you can adjust the bell crank so it is a bit closer to the
engine with the slotted mount holes which 'might' help.

I just gave up and adjusted the linkage to take up the slop. I recently
picked up a new bellcrank and got a new frame yesterday so will install
both together. I am going to move it over closer to the engine on
'this', the second frame up build though.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590

michael.white@charter.net wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm doing a T-4/5 to T-176 upgrade on my '82 Scrambler, and I noticed
> that the bellcrank plastic bushings are shattered again. I replaced
> them less than a year ago, and I've done no serious off-roading, just
> some very bumpy mountain roads. I've got new polyurethane bushings
> all round (engine, transmission, body), so I don't think it's a body
> or engine shift issue. I keep the bellcrank very well greased. The
> problem seems to be with the bushings on the clutch housing side. The
> clutch pedal side bushings seems fine. Any ideas on what could be
> causing this? Or has anyone got a good permanent solution (the
> hydraulic clutch conversion didn't work so well)?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


Scott in Baltimore 10-14-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Bellcrank plastic bushings
 
Say goodbye to Imagestation:

http://www.imagestation.com/shutdown.html


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