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Re: Beadlocks
These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved:
http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ The Staun product, AKA Second Air ( http://www.secondair.com ), looks to be a much better option for the daily driver than external bead-locks (easier to balance, safer, lower maintenance), but there are a few disadvantages: 1. Airing up/down takes longer. Flow to/from the tire is partly restricted by the inner tube. Also inner tube pressure changes with tire pressure, so it has to be aired up/down as well. 2. Tricky to install even with a mounting machine. Not suitable for tire changes on the trail. 3. No external rim protection like an outer bead lock. More damage to rim and ingress of debris between bead and rim. 4. US$700-$800 for a set of four, rims not included. That's nearly as much as a set of DOT approved double beadlock rims. Just a common inner tube in a kevlar 'tire'. It'll be nice to see these drop in price as they catch on. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to > legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. > Try: Staun's internal bead lock system: http://www.staunproducts.com/ > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > jbjeep wrote: > >>I know that real beadlocks are not legal on the street (at least in OR, I dont know >>about WA or elsewhere), however, with all the new "street locks" out there, has >>anyone had any problem with the cops over them? >> >>In your opinions, what are the pro's and con's to running beadlocks for a >>street/trail rig (one thats driven to the trail head)? >> >>My rig is street legal more or less right now. If they wanted to write me up, they >>could hit me for flares, mud flaps, license plate light, side markers and probably a >>few other things if they really wanted to. >> >>I am looking at new tires soon and thought I would look into the beadlocks a little >>bit and also into the ceramic balancers (beads inside the tires) before I decided >>what to do. >> >>Thanks. >>-jenn 98 TJ |
Re: Beadlocks
These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved:
http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ The Staun product, AKA Second Air ( http://www.secondair.com ), looks to be a much better option for the daily driver than external bead-locks (easier to balance, safer, lower maintenance), but there are a few disadvantages: 1. Airing up/down takes longer. Flow to/from the tire is partly restricted by the inner tube. Also inner tube pressure changes with tire pressure, so it has to be aired up/down as well. 2. Tricky to install even with a mounting machine. Not suitable for tire changes on the trail. 3. No external rim protection like an outer bead lock. More damage to rim and ingress of debris between bead and rim. 4. US$700-$800 for a set of four, rims not included. That's nearly as much as a set of DOT approved double beadlock rims. Just a common inner tube in a kevlar 'tire'. It'll be nice to see these drop in price as they catch on. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to > legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. > Try: Staun's internal bead lock system: http://www.staunproducts.com/ > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > jbjeep wrote: > >>I know that real beadlocks are not legal on the street (at least in OR, I dont know >>about WA or elsewhere), however, with all the new "street locks" out there, has >>anyone had any problem with the cops over them? >> >>In your opinions, what are the pro's and con's to running beadlocks for a >>street/trail rig (one thats driven to the trail head)? >> >>My rig is street legal more or less right now. If they wanted to write me up, they >>could hit me for flares, mud flaps, license plate light, side markers and probably a >>few other things if they really wanted to. >> >>I am looking at new tires soon and thought I would look into the beadlocks a little >>bit and also into the ceramic balancers (beads inside the tires) before I decided >>what to do. >> >>Thanks. >>-jenn 98 TJ |
Re: Beadlocks
These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved:
http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ The Staun product, AKA Second Air ( http://www.secondair.com ), looks to be a much better option for the daily driver than external bead-locks (easier to balance, safer, lower maintenance), but there are a few disadvantages: 1. Airing up/down takes longer. Flow to/from the tire is partly restricted by the inner tube. Also inner tube pressure changes with tire pressure, so it has to be aired up/down as well. 2. Tricky to install even with a mounting machine. Not suitable for tire changes on the trail. 3. No external rim protection like an outer bead lock. More damage to rim and ingress of debris between bead and rim. 4. US$700-$800 for a set of four, rims not included. That's nearly as much as a set of DOT approved double beadlock rims. Just a common inner tube in a kevlar 'tire'. It'll be nice to see these drop in price as they catch on. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to > legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. > Try: Staun's internal bead lock system: http://www.staunproducts.com/ > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > jbjeep wrote: > >>I know that real beadlocks are not legal on the street (at least in OR, I dont know >>about WA or elsewhere), however, with all the new "street locks" out there, has >>anyone had any problem with the cops over them? >> >>In your opinions, what are the pro's and con's to running beadlocks for a >>street/trail rig (one thats driven to the trail head)? >> >>My rig is street legal more or less right now. If they wanted to write me up, they >>could hit me for flares, mud flaps, license plate light, side markers and probably a >>few other things if they really wanted to. >> >>I am looking at new tires soon and thought I would look into the beadlocks a little >>bit and also into the ceramic balancers (beads inside the tires) before I decided >>what to do. >> >>Thanks. >>-jenn 98 TJ |
Re: Beadlocks
What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone?
Steve wrote: > These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: > > http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ > > The Staun product, AKA Second Air ( http://www.secondair.com ), looks to > be a much better option for the daily driver than external bead-locks > (easier to balance, safer, lower maintenance), but there are a few > disadvantages: > > 1. Airing up/down takes longer. Flow to/from the tire is partly > restricted by the inner tube. Also inner tube pressure changes with tire > pressure, so it has to be aired up/down as well. > > 2. Tricky to install even with a mounting machine. Not suitable for tire > changes on the trail. > > 3. No external rim protection like an outer bead lock. More damage to > rim and ingress of debris between bead and rim. > > 4. US$700-$800 for a set of four, rims not included. That's nearly as > much as a set of DOT approved double beadlock rims. > > Just a common inner tube in a kevlar 'tire'. It'll be nice to see these > drop in price as they catch on. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > >> Hi Jennifer, >> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. >> Try: Staun's internal bead lock system: http://www.staunproducts.com/ >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> jbjeep wrote: >> >>> I know that real beadlocks are not legal on the street (at least in >>> OR, I dont know >>> about WA or elsewhere), however, with all the new "street locks" out >>> there, has >>> anyone had any problem with the cops over them? >>> >>> In your opinions, what are the pro's and con's to running beadlocks >>> for a >>> street/trail rig (one thats driven to the trail head)? >>> >>> My rig is street legal more or less right now. If they wanted to >>> write me up, they >>> could hit me for flares, mud flaps, license plate light, side markers >>> and probably a >>> few other things if they really wanted to. >>> >>> I am looking at new tires soon and thought I would look into the >>> beadlocks a little >>> bit and also into the ceramic balancers (beads inside the tires) >>> before I decided >>> what to do. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> -jenn 98 TJ -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: Beadlocks
What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone?
Steve wrote: > These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: > > http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ > > The Staun product, AKA Second Air ( http://www.secondair.com ), looks to > be a much better option for the daily driver than external bead-locks > (easier to balance, safer, lower maintenance), but there are a few > disadvantages: > > 1. Airing up/down takes longer. Flow to/from the tire is partly > restricted by the inner tube. Also inner tube pressure changes with tire > pressure, so it has to be aired up/down as well. > > 2. Tricky to install even with a mounting machine. Not suitable for tire > changes on the trail. > > 3. No external rim protection like an outer bead lock. More damage to > rim and ingress of debris between bead and rim. > > 4. US$700-$800 for a set of four, rims not included. That's nearly as > much as a set of DOT approved double beadlock rims. > > Just a common inner tube in a kevlar 'tire'. It'll be nice to see these > drop in price as they catch on. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > >> Hi Jennifer, >> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. >> Try: Staun's internal bead lock system: http://www.staunproducts.com/ >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> jbjeep wrote: >> >>> I know that real beadlocks are not legal on the street (at least in >>> OR, I dont know >>> about WA or elsewhere), however, with all the new "street locks" out >>> there, has >>> anyone had any problem with the cops over them? >>> >>> In your opinions, what are the pro's and con's to running beadlocks >>> for a >>> street/trail rig (one thats driven to the trail head)? >>> >>> My rig is street legal more or less right now. If they wanted to >>> write me up, they >>> could hit me for flares, mud flaps, license plate light, side markers >>> and probably a >>> few other things if they really wanted to. >>> >>> I am looking at new tires soon and thought I would look into the >>> beadlocks a little >>> bit and also into the ceramic balancers (beads inside the tires) >>> before I decided >>> what to do. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> -jenn 98 TJ -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: Beadlocks
What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone?
Steve wrote: > These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: > > http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ > > The Staun product, AKA Second Air ( http://www.secondair.com ), looks to > be a much better option for the daily driver than external bead-locks > (easier to balance, safer, lower maintenance), but there are a few > disadvantages: > > 1. Airing up/down takes longer. Flow to/from the tire is partly > restricted by the inner tube. Also inner tube pressure changes with tire > pressure, so it has to be aired up/down as well. > > 2. Tricky to install even with a mounting machine. Not suitable for tire > changes on the trail. > > 3. No external rim protection like an outer bead lock. More damage to > rim and ingress of debris between bead and rim. > > 4. US$700-$800 for a set of four, rims not included. That's nearly as > much as a set of DOT approved double beadlock rims. > > Just a common inner tube in a kevlar 'tire'. It'll be nice to see these > drop in price as they catch on. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: > >> Hi Jennifer, >> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. >> Try: Staun's internal bead lock system: http://www.staunproducts.com/ >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> jbjeep wrote: >> >>> I know that real beadlocks are not legal on the street (at least in >>> OR, I dont know >>> about WA or elsewhere), however, with all the new "street locks" out >>> there, has >>> anyone had any problem with the cops over them? >>> >>> In your opinions, what are the pro's and con's to running beadlocks >>> for a >>> street/trail rig (one thats driven to the trail head)? >>> >>> My rig is street legal more or less right now. If they wanted to >>> write me up, they >>> could hit me for flares, mud flaps, license plate light, side markers >>> and probably a >>> few other things if they really wanted to. >>> >>> I am looking at new tires soon and thought I would look into the >>> beadlocks a little >>> bit and also into the ceramic balancers (beads inside the tires) >>> before I decided >>> what to do. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> -jenn 98 TJ -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: Beadlocks
The benefit is to the manufacturer. Provides a competitive advantage in
marketing by playing on the 'street-legal' concerns of buyers. Just pointing out that some manufacturers do get theirs approved. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Jerry Bransford wrote: > What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone? > > Steve wrote: > >> These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: >> >> http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ >> >> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: >> >>> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >>> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. |
Re: Beadlocks
The benefit is to the manufacturer. Provides a competitive advantage in
marketing by playing on the 'street-legal' concerns of buyers. Just pointing out that some manufacturers do get theirs approved. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Jerry Bransford wrote: > What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone? > > Steve wrote: > >> These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: >> >> http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ >> >> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: >> >>> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >>> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. |
Re: Beadlocks
The benefit is to the manufacturer. Provides a competitive advantage in
marketing by playing on the 'street-legal' concerns of buyers. Just pointing out that some manufacturers do get theirs approved. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org Jerry Bransford wrote: > What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone? > > Steve wrote: > >> These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: >> >> http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ >> >> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: >> >>> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >>> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. |
Re: Beadlocks
Aside from the fact that whether or not it is DOT approved has nothing
to do with it making a wheel legal for the street. They're playing on rumor and bad information. Jerry Steve wrote: > The benefit is to the manufacturer. Provides a competitive advantage in > marketing by playing on the 'street-legal' concerns of buyers. Just > pointing out that some manufacturers do get theirs approved. > > Steve > http://xjeep.dyndns.org > > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > >> What benefit do you feel having them DOT approved gets anyone? >> >> Steve wrote: >> >>> These double beadlocks with PVC insert are DOT approved: >>> >>> http://www.usa6x6.com/civilianbeadlocks/ >>> >>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote: >>> >>>> In this litigious society you'll never see anyone attempt to >>>> legalize a multi piece rim with the department of Transportation again. -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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