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RocknCJ 01-16-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg

Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one on
the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.

Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.

--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EABE50.7ED42271@cox.net...
> Unlike gasoline, hydrogen is a vapor until compressed into a bomb.
> We'll never have to worry about it though, other than a couple of
> sacrificial lamps in government employment, as they need about ten times
> the energy to produce hydrogen, than we can recover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> Sitting in the same box as a petrol isn't too clever if you think about
>> it.
>> Petrol vapour can ignite from 40 feet away.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




RocknCJ 01-16-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg

Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one on
the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.

Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.

--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EABE50.7ED42271@cox.net...
> Unlike gasoline, hydrogen is a vapor until compressed into a bomb.
> We'll never have to worry about it though, other than a couple of
> sacrificial lamps in government employment, as they need about ten times
> the energy to produce hydrogen, than we can recover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> Sitting in the same box as a petrol isn't too clever if you think about
>> it.
>> Petrol vapour can ignite from 40 feet away.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




RocknCJ 01-16-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg

Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one on
the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.

Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.

--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EABE50.7ED42271@cox.net...
> Unlike gasoline, hydrogen is a vapor until compressed into a bomb.
> We'll never have to worry about it though, other than a couple of
> sacrificial lamps in government employment, as they need about ten times
> the energy to produce hydrogen, than we can recover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> Sitting in the same box as a petrol isn't too clever if you think about
>> it.
>> Petrol vapour can ignite from 40 feet away.
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
Hi James,
I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
gas cook stove.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RocknCJ wrote:
>
> Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg
>
> Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one on
> the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.
>
> Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
> produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.
>
> --James


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
Hi James,
I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
gas cook stove.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RocknCJ wrote:
>
> Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg
>
> Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one on
> the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.
>
> Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
> produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.
>
> --James


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
Hi James,
I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
gas cook stove.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RocknCJ wrote:
>
> Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg
>
> Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one on
> the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.
>
> Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
> produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.
>
> --James


Dave Milne 01-16-2005 03:56 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
They do have pressure regulators on them and modern kits have a shutoff
valve if they detect excess leakage.
However, if they leaked after the pressure regulator (e.g. damaged hose) ...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EACCEB.29649D81@cox.net...
> Hi James,
> I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
> equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
> direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
> meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
> gas cook stove.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RocknCJ wrote:
> >
> > Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg
> >
> > Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one

on
> > the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.
> >
> > Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
> > produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.
> >
> > --James




Dave Milne 01-16-2005 03:56 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
They do have pressure regulators on them and modern kits have a shutoff
valve if they detect excess leakage.
However, if they leaked after the pressure regulator (e.g. damaged hose) ...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EACCEB.29649D81@cox.net...
> Hi James,
> I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
> equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
> direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
> meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
> gas cook stove.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RocknCJ wrote:
> >
> > Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg
> >
> > Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one

on
> > the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.
> >
> > Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
> > produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.
> >
> > --James




Dave Milne 01-16-2005 03:56 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
They do have pressure regulators on them and modern kits have a shutoff
valve if they detect excess leakage.
However, if they leaked after the pressure regulator (e.g. damaged hose) ...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EACCEB.29649D81@cox.net...
> Hi James,
> I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
> equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
> direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
> meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
> gas cook stove.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RocknCJ wrote:
> >
> > Look at this: http://members.cox.net/rockncj2/6_1409_1.jpg
> >
> > Both are fuel tank failures. The one on the right is gasoline, the one

on
> > the left is hydrogen. I think I would rather be in the hydrogen car.
> >
> > Bill is right though, until someone comes up with an efficient way to
> > produce hydrogen, it won't be the fuel of choice.
> >
> > --James




Lon 01-16-2005 04:01 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

Loose hydrogen has the good manners to dissipate upwards which will
tend to cut the concentration quickly. Petrol tends to settle,
making it more dangerous if there is a leak. Granted that it is
far easier to see a petrol fire than a hyrdrogen or even alcohol
one.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Unlike gasoline, hydrogen is a vapor until compressed into a bomb.
> We'll never have to worry about it though, other than a couple of
> sacrificial lamps in government employment, as they need about ten times
> the energy to produce hydrogen, than we can recover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>>Sitting in the same box as a petrol isn't too clever if you think about it.
>>Petrol vapour can ignite from 40 feet away.
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ



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