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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
Yup, hydrogen burns cleaner, it should it like alcohol cost ten
times as much as gasoline.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> Loose hydrogen has the good manners to dissipate upwards which will
> tend to cut the concentration quickly. Petrol tends to settle,
> making it more dangerous if there is a leak. Granted that it is
> far easier to see a petrol fire than a hyrdrogen or even alcohol
> one.


RocknCJ 01-16-2005 04:35 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
LOL, that's cool. I did a thesis on Hydrogren Powered Vehicles, part of
involved safety and still another part delt with cost.

At STP Hydrogen is a gas, also Hydrogen is lighter than air at STP.
At STP gasoline is a liquid and is heavier than air.
To make a reasonable sized fuel cell for a vehicle, the Hydrogen has to be
pressurized until it is in liquid state.
In liquid state neither gasoline or Hydrogen is flamable.

Thus the picture. Gasoline will creap along the ground in liquid state until
it is vaporized and ignites.
Hydrogen is not liquid at STP, will not creap, will only ignite at the point
of vaporization and the flames will only go up because it is light.

Have a great day,
--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EACCEB.29649D81@cox.net...
> Hi James,
> I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
> equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
> direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
> meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
> gas cook stove.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>




RocknCJ 01-16-2005 04:35 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
LOL, that's cool. I did a thesis on Hydrogren Powered Vehicles, part of
involved safety and still another part delt with cost.

At STP Hydrogen is a gas, also Hydrogen is lighter than air at STP.
At STP gasoline is a liquid and is heavier than air.
To make a reasonable sized fuel cell for a vehicle, the Hydrogen has to be
pressurized until it is in liquid state.
In liquid state neither gasoline or Hydrogen is flamable.

Thus the picture. Gasoline will creap along the ground in liquid state until
it is vaporized and ignites.
Hydrogen is not liquid at STP, will not creap, will only ignite at the point
of vaporization and the flames will only go up because it is light.

Have a great day,
--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EACCEB.29649D81@cox.net...
> Hi James,
> I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
> equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
> direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
> meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
> gas cook stove.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>




RocknCJ 01-16-2005 04:35 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
LOL, that's cool. I did a thesis on Hydrogren Powered Vehicles, part of
involved safety and still another part delt with cost.

At STP Hydrogen is a gas, also Hydrogen is lighter than air at STP.
At STP gasoline is a liquid and is heavier than air.
To make a reasonable sized fuel cell for a vehicle, the Hydrogen has to be
pressurized until it is in liquid state.
In liquid state neither gasoline or Hydrogen is flamable.

Thus the picture. Gasoline will creap along the ground in liquid state until
it is vaporized and ignites.
Hydrogen is not liquid at STP, will not creap, will only ignite at the point
of vaporization and the flames will only go up because it is light.

Have a great day,
--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EACCEB.29649D81@cox.net...
> Hi James,
> I don't believe the picture. Anyone that used Oxy-Acetylene
> equipment like I, would know an compressed gas leak would point in an a
> direction like a blow torch, It doesn't burn like a candle, unless it's
> meant to do that as with the pressure regulators such are used with your
> gas cook stove.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>




RocknCJ 01-16-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

The great myth of the Hindenberg.
Several studies have proved the great fire produced by the Hindenberg were
cause by the glue used to make the zepplin.
The glue used was extremely flamable and was very unstable. Search for a
paper done by Dr. Vorst of UCLA, that's a good start.

--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EAD8AF.41367FF1@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> My guess is if it was hit in an accident, it wouldn't just burn
> like the gas bags of the Hindenburg, but explode, big time! Like city
> blocks would disappear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



RocknCJ 01-16-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

The great myth of the Hindenberg.
Several studies have proved the great fire produced by the Hindenberg were
cause by the glue used to make the zepplin.
The glue used was extremely flamable and was very unstable. Search for a
paper done by Dr. Vorst of UCLA, that's a good start.

--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EAD8AF.41367FF1@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> My guess is if it was hit in an accident, it wouldn't just burn
> like the gas bags of the Hindenburg, but explode, big time! Like city
> blocks would disappear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



RocknCJ 01-16-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 

The great myth of the Hindenberg.
Several studies have proved the great fire produced by the Hindenberg were
cause by the glue used to make the zepplin.
The glue used was extremely flamable and was very unstable. Search for a
paper done by Dr. Vorst of UCLA, that's a good start.

--James

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41EAD8AF.41367FF1@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> My guess is if it was hit in an accident, it wouldn't just burn
> like the gas bags of the Hindenburg, but explode, big time! Like city
> blocks would disappear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
SAY WHAT! How does the hydrogen go from a pressurized state. Knock
off the valve from your barbecue bottle and see if you can't light it,
if your dare. You're dangerous!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RocknCJ wrote:
>
> LOL, that's cool. I did a thesis on Hydrogren Powered Vehicles, part of
> involved safety and still another part delt with cost.
>
> At STP Hydrogen is a gas, also Hydrogen is lighter than air at STP.
> At STP gasoline is a liquid and is heavier than air.
> To make a reasonable sized fuel cell for a vehicle, the Hydrogen has to be
> pressurized until it is in liquid state.
> In liquid state neither gasoline or Hydrogen is flamable.
>
> Thus the picture. Gasoline will creap along the ground in liquid state until
> it is vaporized and ignites.
> Hydrogen is not liquid at STP, will not creap, will only ignite at the point
> of vaporization and the flames will only go up because it is light.
>
> Have a great day,
> --James


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
SAY WHAT! How does the hydrogen go from a pressurized state. Knock
off the valve from your barbecue bottle and see if you can't light it,
if your dare. You're dangerous!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RocknCJ wrote:
>
> LOL, that's cool. I did a thesis on Hydrogren Powered Vehicles, part of
> involved safety and still another part delt with cost.
>
> At STP Hydrogen is a gas, also Hydrogen is lighter than air at STP.
> At STP gasoline is a liquid and is heavier than air.
> To make a reasonable sized fuel cell for a vehicle, the Hydrogen has to be
> pressurized until it is in liquid state.
> In liquid state neither gasoline or Hydrogen is flamable.
>
> Thus the picture. Gasoline will creap along the ground in liquid state until
> it is vaporized and ignites.
> Hydrogen is not liquid at STP, will not creap, will only ignite at the point
> of vaporization and the flames will only go up because it is light.
>
> Have a great day,
> --James


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-16-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Battery Suggestions
 
SAY WHAT! How does the hydrogen go from a pressurized state. Knock
off the valve from your barbecue bottle and see if you can't light it,
if your dare. You're dangerous!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RocknCJ wrote:
>
> LOL, that's cool. I did a thesis on Hydrogren Powered Vehicles, part of
> involved safety and still another part delt with cost.
>
> At STP Hydrogen is a gas, also Hydrogen is lighter than air at STP.
> At STP gasoline is a liquid and is heavier than air.
> To make a reasonable sized fuel cell for a vehicle, the Hydrogen has to be
> pressurized until it is in liquid state.
> In liquid state neither gasoline or Hydrogen is flamable.
>
> Thus the picture. Gasoline will creap along the ground in liquid state until
> it is vaporized and ignites.
> Hydrogen is not liquid at STP, will not creap, will only ignite at the point
> of vaporization and the flames will only go up because it is light.
>
> Have a great day,
> --James



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