I'm still considering replacement but not from Sears. Diehard batteries
ranked 9th and 11th out of 11 in the Group 65 size in the November 2005
Consumer's Report.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TrmdnX_4SLK9yGvZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6 amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged) and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed
>> in the green the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging
>> to spec, voltage correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> At 4 years, I'd replace the battery. Diehard SUV or Optima Red. Both
> cheaper than about 1 hour of your time screwing around with it.
>
>
>

 

I'm still considering replacement but not from Sears. Diehard batteries
ranked 9th and 11th out of 11 in the Group 65 size in the November 2005
Consumer's Report.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TrmdnX_4SLK9yGvZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6 amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged) and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed
>> in the green the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging
>> to spec, voltage correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> At 4 years, I'd replace the battery. Diehard SUV or Optima Red. Both
> cheaper than about 1 hour of your time screwing around with it.
>
>
>

 

I'm still considering replacement but not from Sears. Diehard batteries
ranked 9th and 11th out of 11 in the Group 65 size in the November 2005
Consumer's Report.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TrmdnX_4SLK9yGvZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6 amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged) and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed
>> in the green the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging
>> to spec, voltage correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> At 4 years, I'd replace the battery. Diehard SUV or Optima Red. Both
> cheaper than about 1 hour of your time screwing around with it.
>
>
>

 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

 

I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

billy ray wrote:
>
> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click, click
> from this 4 year old battery.
>
> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>
> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
> read DOA.
>
> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow Ed's 6
> amp unit.
>
> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about a
> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>
> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>
> It sat all day yesterday.
>
> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery charged)
> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the green
> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec, voltage
> correct, battery passed.
>
> So what happened?
>
> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some time
> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>
> Any ideas?

 

I decided not to trust it either...

I got an Everstart Maxx from Wal-Mart to replace it.

FWIW: After I got home I decided to check the electrolyte level and all six
cells were low. It took 11 ounces of distilled water to get them up to the
split rings.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F6E8D6.32E14FB1@sympatico.ca...
>I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
> battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
> would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click
>> from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6
>> amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a
>> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged)
>> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the
>> green
>> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec,
>> voltage
>> correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time
>> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?

 

I decided not to trust it either...

I got an Everstart Maxx from Wal-Mart to replace it.

FWIW: After I got home I decided to check the electrolyte level and all six
cells were low. It took 11 ounces of distilled water to get them up to the
split rings.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F6E8D6.32E14FB1@sympatico.ca...
>I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
> battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
> would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click
>> from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6
>> amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a
>> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged)
>> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the
>> green
>> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec,
>> voltage
>> correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time
>> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?

 

I decided not to trust it either...

I got an Everstart Maxx from Wal-Mart to replace it.

FWIW: After I got home I decided to check the electrolyte level and all six
cells were low. It took 11 ounces of distilled water to get them up to the
split rings.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F6E8D6.32E14FB1@sympatico.ca...
>I wouldn't trust it. When the cells have different charge levels the
> battery is on it's last legs. If they all were evenly dead, then I
> would do a deep slow charge and figure it was still good to go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I attempted to go out in the Jeep to my dad's birthday dinner the other
>> night but when I tried to start it I got nary a groan... just click,
>> click
>> from this 4 year old battery.
>>
>> I was able to get a ride and after the all important cake and ice cream I
>> took a look at the beast about 8 PM.
>>
>> The specific gravity was pretty low on the first two cells and the next 4
>> read DOA.
>>
>> My charger decided to die at that point and I ran next door to borrow
>> Ed's 6
>> amp unit.
>>
>> At 2 AM (6 hours of charging) I had 2 cells about half charged, 1 about
>> a
>> quarter, and 3 DOA.
>>
>> At 6 PM (22 hours charging I had 5 cells at 100% and the 6th at 75%.
>>
>> It sat all day yesterday.
>>
>> I was ready to buy a new battery tonight but for some reason I asked the
>> counter guy to run a test on it. The 'eye' showed green (battery
>> charged)
>> and he started the 50% load (325 amps). Battery voltage stayed in the
>> green
>> the whole time. Start the engine..... alternator charging to spec,
>> voltage
>> correct, battery passed.
>>
>> So what happened?
>>
>> The parts man suggested that perhaps I left a light on. There were not
>> lights on at that moment but did I turn it off without thinking some
>> time
>> when I was working on it and now don't recall it?
>>
>> Any ideas?