Battery Connected Backwards
#81
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Our Personal Computers are still being run on 3.3, 5, & 12 volts:
> http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/630-...wer-supply.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
>
>>They probably will. Vehicles will soon be made to run at 48 Volts or so.
>>It's better for the computers, but will probably let a lot of smoke out if
>>you are not careful.
>>--
>>Stupendous Man,
>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Our Personal Computers are still being run on 3.3, 5, & 12 volts:
> http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/630-...wer-supply.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
>
>>They probably will. Vehicles will soon be made to run at 48 Volts or so.
>>It's better for the computers, but will probably let a lot of smoke out if
>>you are not careful.
>>--
>>Stupendous Man,
>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
#82
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Our Personal Computers are still being run on 3.3, 5, & 12 volts:
> http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/630-...wer-supply.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
>
>>They probably will. Vehicles will soon be made to run at 48 Volts or so.
>>It's better for the computers, but will probably let a lot of smoke out if
>>you are not careful.
>>--
>>Stupendous Man,
>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Our Personal Computers are still being run on 3.3, 5, & 12 volts:
> http://www.atxpowersupplies.com/630-...wer-supply.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
>
>>They probably will. Vehicles will soon be made to run at 48 Volts or so.
>>It's better for the computers, but will probably let a lot of smoke out if
>>you are not careful.
>>--
>>Stupendous Man,
>>Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
#83
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Those damn dark sucker!
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Coasty wrote:
>
> I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I
> find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for
> smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can
> call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the
> system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting
> darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the
> system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes
> than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will
> cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a
> sacrificial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the
> problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small
> amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find
> this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to
> start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...
>
> Coasty
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Coasty wrote:
>
> I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I
> find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for
> smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can
> call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the
> system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting
> darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the
> system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes
> than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will
> cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a
> sacrificial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the
> problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small
> amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find
> this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to
> start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...
>
> Coasty
#84
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Those damn dark sucker!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I
> find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for
> smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can
> call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the
> system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting
> darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the
> system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes
> than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will
> cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a
> sacrificial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the
> problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small
> amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find
> this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to
> start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...
>
> Coasty
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I
> find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for
> smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can
> call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the
> system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting
> darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the
> system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes
> than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will
> cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a
> sacrificial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the
> problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small
> amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find
> this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to
> start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...
>
> Coasty
#85
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Those damn dark sucker!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I
> find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for
> smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can
> call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the
> system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting
> darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the
> system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes
> than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will
> cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a
> sacrificial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the
> problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small
> amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find
> this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to
> start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...
>
> Coasty
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> I think your basic understanding of smoke systems is remarkable. However I
> find a flaw with your theory. The battery is a reusable storage device for
> smoke. therefore, one would assume that some sort of one way valve (we can
> call it a diode) should be needed to prevent pressure flooding back into the
> system while at rest. Unlike the A/C system, the smoke system is collecting
> darkness at the headlights and converting it to smoke. This causes the
> system to fill up. The battery can contain much higher pressures and volumes
> than the wires. If this pressure exceeds the capacity of the wire, it will
> cause a rupture as you described. The rupture can be controlled by a
> sacrificial device known as a fuse. But this still doesn't eliminate the
> problem. Perhaps a two way valve (zener diode) is used to allow a small
> amount of pressure to return to the system, and partially equalize. I find
> this theory unlikely though, due to the increase in the force required to
> start the pump (which is now under pressure) working again...
>
> Coasty
#86
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Yes, that's for the drives.
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Lon wrote:
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> None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
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Lon wrote:
>
> None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
#87
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Yes, that's for the drives.
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Lon wrote:
>
> None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
#88
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Yes, that's for the drives.
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Lon wrote:
>
> None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> None of the processing stuff runs at 12.
#89
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Hi Earle,
If we ream out the terminals and clean their bolts, like you do,
right? Then complicate things further by buying a bigger new battery
that's terminals are on the other end, or we just put the battery in
backwards, then Murphy's Law may catch us. Fortunately most of the cars
I have to work on have a starter solenoid near by to help determine
their polarity.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I find that a pair of heavy duty duck billed snap ring pliers, or two large
> screwdrivers, can be used to correct the problem, where the small clamp
> terminal won't fit over the big battery post. Then if you turn the battery
> 180º, you can usually make the cables reach.
>
> Earle
If we ream out the terminals and clean their bolts, like you do,
right? Then complicate things further by buying a bigger new battery
that's terminals are on the other end, or we just put the battery in
backwards, then Murphy's Law may catch us. Fortunately most of the cars
I have to work on have a starter solenoid near by to help determine
their polarity.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I find that a pair of heavy duty duck billed snap ring pliers, or two large
> screwdrivers, can be used to correct the problem, where the small clamp
> terminal won't fit over the big battery post. Then if you turn the battery
> 180º, you can usually make the cables reach.
>
> Earle
#90
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Re: Battery Connected Backwards
Hi Earle,
If we ream out the terminals and clean their bolts, like you do,
right? Then complicate things further by buying a bigger new battery
that's terminals are on the other end, or we just put the battery in
backwards, then Murphy's Law may catch us. Fortunately most of the cars
I have to work on have a starter solenoid near by to help determine
their polarity.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I find that a pair of heavy duty duck billed snap ring pliers, or two large
> screwdrivers, can be used to correct the problem, where the small clamp
> terminal won't fit over the big battery post. Then if you turn the battery
> 180º, you can usually make the cables reach.
>
> Earle
If we ream out the terminals and clean their bolts, like you do,
right? Then complicate things further by buying a bigger new battery
that's terminals are on the other end, or we just put the battery in
backwards, then Murphy's Law may catch us. Fortunately most of the cars
I have to work on have a starter solenoid near by to help determine
their polarity.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I find that a pair of heavy duty duck billed snap ring pliers, or two large
> screwdrivers, can be used to correct the problem, where the small clamp
> terminal won't fit over the big battery post. Then if you turn the battery
> 180º, you can usually make the cables reach.
>
> Earle