SoK66

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug

Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.

SoK66

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug

Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.

SoK66

"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
> my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They
> had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug

Yes, the Dana 35 curse strikes another victim. Unless you just enjoy misery,
toss the thing into a pond somewhere. You have a number of options, all of
them expensive. Depends upon your pocketbook, and your plans for the YJ.

Local folks have been having fairly good luck swapping in Ford 8.8" axles
out of first & second generation Explorers. It's still a c-clip axle, but
much stronger than the 35 and has disk brakes to boot. Many of them had ABS,
so you might be able to mate the two and get the ABS to work.
See Mountain Off Road's site for more details on the 8.8. Be advised they
are starting to get scarce because so many folks are doing this swap into
YJs, TJs & XJs.

Alternatively you can search for a D44 from a Comanche pickup, but this may
be like searching for hen's teeth.

Another alternative is to grab a D44 from a TJ, grind off the bracketry and
weld on spring perches. Several club members have done this on their YJs and
are very pleased with the results. Finding one gets easier every year. For
example, virtually all of them sold locally have been ordered with D44s by
our dealer, whose service manager thinks Dana should be tried for war crimes
because of the 35. Only knock on these, TJ D44s (including those on the
Rubi) have thin axle tubes (same as 35) but I don't know of anyone who's
bent one yet.

Another idea that I haven;t yet seen done, but is feasible is to swap in a
Chrysler 8.25 from an XJ.

Lastly, one can order a Ford 9", D44, D60, etc. from Currie, Drive Train
Direct, Dynatrac, etc. Just depends upon the depth of your wallet.

Tom Greening

Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>

Tom Greening

Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>

Tom Greening

Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>

Tom Greening

Could you define "no longer works"?

1. Yes it "could" work, but not a bolt in and definitely not within the
$325.00 price range.
2. No, not without major rework. See #1 above.
3. Naw, not nuts. On the wrong track maybe given what you've got and the
budget you're limited to, but not crazy. Jeeps are all about crazy ideas
anyway. Some crazier than others.

Depending on what "no longer works" means, it may be as simple as just
fixing what you've got. It may or may not be the cheapest solution, but
odds are it will be the most cost and TIME effective way out, especially if
you can't afford to have it down for too long.


"Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>
> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on swapping
> axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap way out of
my
> predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94 with ABS. They had
> an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>
> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
rear
> is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA conversion
> already.
>
> I'm very tempted, but:
> 1. Will it work?
> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>
> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
>

Jeff Strickland

Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>

Jeff Strickland

Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>

Jeff Strickland

Never mind ...



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xs6dnXVJ5ZXSnfHfRVn-uQ@ez2.net...
> Doesn't the YJ and the CJ have the front pumpkin of opposite sides?
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" <doug.schuler@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:BmPae.2829$RD.690@trndny02...
>> '94 YJ, Dana35c that no longer works...
>>
>> I'm looking for some advice from anyone that may have thoughts on
>> swapping axles. I was at the junk yard this morning looking for a cheap
>> way out of my predicament. They do not have any dana35 axles for a 94
>> with ABS. They had an axle from a 91 though - $325.
>>
>> For the same price they'll sell me front & rear axles from an '83 CJ7.
>> rear is a 44, I'm not sure about the front. it's set with a SOA
>> conversion already.
>>
>> I'm very tempted, but:
>> 1. Will it work?
>> 2. Front axle - can the axle be flipped top accomodate the drive shaft?
>> 3. Am I nuts for even thinking I can do this?
>>
>> Mine is a 94 yj - np231, 4.0l.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>