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fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-09-2005 09:28 PM

AX15 transmission
 
I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.

An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
theory).

An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?

I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
opening Pandora's box?

Any emails would be appreciated.

Fabe
fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
CBS, NL, Canada


Jerry Bransford 06-09-2005 10:00 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Your 2.5L indicates your transmission is an AX-5. The AX-15 is only
used with the 4.0L six-cylinder engine. Synchronizers are the most
likely problem with your transmission, they go out far more frequently
with wear than just about anything else in a trannie. I'd be looking at
just them, with maybe a question of how much more for a complete
overhaul if you plan to keep your '93.

Jerry

fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca wrote:
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 06-09-2005 10:00 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Your 2.5L indicates your transmission is an AX-5. The AX-15 is only
used with the 4.0L six-cylinder engine. Synchronizers are the most
likely problem with your transmission, they go out far more frequently
with wear than just about anything else in a trannie. I'd be looking at
just them, with maybe a question of how much more for a complete
overhaul if you plan to keep your '93.

Jerry

fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca wrote:
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 06-09-2005 10:00 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Your 2.5L indicates your transmission is an AX-5. The AX-15 is only
used with the 4.0L six-cylinder engine. Synchronizers are the most
likely problem with your transmission, they go out far more frequently
with wear than just about anything else in a trannie. I'd be looking at
just them, with maybe a question of how much more for a complete
overhaul if you plan to keep your '93.

Jerry

fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca wrote:
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 06-09-2005 10:00 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Your 2.5L indicates your transmission is an AX-5. The AX-15 is only
used with the 4.0L six-cylinder engine. Synchronizers are the most
likely problem with your transmission, they go out far more frequently
with wear than just about anything else in a trannie. I'd be looking at
just them, with maybe a question of how much more for a complete
overhaul if you plan to keep your '93.

Jerry

fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca wrote:
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-09-2005 11:29 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Hi Fabe,
Many times people complain about the syncros when it's actually
that weird frog throw out, slave cylinder:
http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg Maybe bleed it, refill it to make
sure it is fully releasing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-09-2005 11:29 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Hi Fabe,
Many times people complain about the syncros when it's actually
that weird frog throw out, slave cylinder:
http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg Maybe bleed it, refill it to make
sure it is fully releasing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-09-2005 11:29 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Hi Fabe,
Many times people complain about the syncros when it's actually
that weird frog throw out, slave cylinder:
http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg Maybe bleed it, refill it to make
sure it is fully releasing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-09-2005 11:29 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Hi Fabe,
Many times people complain about the syncros when it's actually
that weird frog throw out, slave cylinder:
http://www.----------.com/YJslave.jpg Maybe bleed it, refill it to make
sure it is fully releasing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> I was wondering if we have a transmission god about? I have a problem
> with my 93' 2.5L standard with a problem shifting between gears. I was
> told that this was "the syncronizers". Since there are hubs, rings,
> sleeves, keys and even springs, what are the common faults? Quadratec
> seems to be a vendor with parts at a reasonable price.
>
> An additional piece of information that would be helpful in a rebuild
> is tolerance information where I can put a caliper to a parts check.
> Being an electrical engineer, this is not total beyond my domain (in
> theory).
>
> An old problem that also bugs most YJ owners is water leaks. A short
> list is "lookies" (as compared to wookies) would not go stray. I am new
> to this group so, I do not know if there is a FAQ about?
>
> I might be able to help out those with electrical problems on these
> beasts, where I have a Chilton's... although I wonder if this could be
> opening Pandora's box?
>
> Any emails would be appreciated.
>
> Fabe
> fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca
> CBS, NL, Canada


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-10-2005 03:43 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
master cylinder, so I was told.

The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
transmission mount.

Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
Thanks!

Fabe


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-10-2005 03:43 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
master cylinder, so I was told.

The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
transmission mount.

Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
Thanks!

Fabe


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-10-2005 03:43 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
master cylinder, so I was told.

The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
transmission mount.

Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
Thanks!

Fabe


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-10-2005 03:43 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
master cylinder, so I was told.

The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
transmission mount.

Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
Thanks!

Fabe


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-10-2005 02:06 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
It will be the AX-5, as Jerry said. Their fill plugs are on
opposite sides: http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
You have a broken sync ring for sure, it expands as the collar is
being slid over it jamming until you wiggle it going over it again. Your
only option is to rebuild it, as no other size transmission will fit the
nine inch clutch disk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-10-2005 02:06 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
It will be the AX-5, as Jerry said. Their fill plugs are on
opposite sides: http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
You have a broken sync ring for sure, it expands as the collar is
being slid over it jamming until you wiggle it going over it again. Your
only option is to rebuild it, as no other size transmission will fit the
nine inch clutch disk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-10-2005 02:06 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
It will be the AX-5, as Jerry said. Their fill plugs are on
opposite sides: http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
You have a broken sync ring for sure, it expands as the collar is
being slid over it jamming until you wiggle it going over it again. Your
only option is to rebuild it, as no other size transmission will fit the
nine inch clutch disk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-10-2005 02:06 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
It will be the AX-5, as Jerry said. Their fill plugs are on
opposite sides: http://www.----------.com/AX15lube.jpg
You have a broken sync ring for sure, it expands as the collar is
being slid over it jamming until you wiggle it going over it again. Your
only option is to rebuild it, as no other size transmission will fit the
nine inch clutch disk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca" wrote:
>
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe


Earle Horton 06-10-2005 05:56 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
The '94 year model four cylinder manual sported an external slave cylinder
clutch housing upgrade. Since you are going to have to replace the
transmission one way or another, I would look into upgrading the clutch
housing and slave unit to the new design at the same time. Perhaps you can
find everything you need at a recycling yard. I have a '95 with the 2.5
liter engine and AX-5 transmission. It is going on eighty thousand miles
with no problem, except for some reluctance to down shift into second in
cold weather.

I had a '61 Volvo with similar symptoms to your Jeep. It turns out that a
previous owner had assembled the transmission incorrectly! A "seriously
blocked shift" and whining sounds like something broken. Whining is usually
a bad gear, bearing or both, and the cost of parts to rebuild the
transmission will probably make you cry. These transmissions require
special tools and precise clearances to be rebuilt properly, and in my
opinion a professional rebuild is likely to be cheaper, in the long run,
than an amateur attempt.

Earle

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118389432.915558.258980@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe
>




Earle Horton 06-10-2005 05:56 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
The '94 year model four cylinder manual sported an external slave cylinder
clutch housing upgrade. Since you are going to have to replace the
transmission one way or another, I would look into upgrading the clutch
housing and slave unit to the new design at the same time. Perhaps you can
find everything you need at a recycling yard. I have a '95 with the 2.5
liter engine and AX-5 transmission. It is going on eighty thousand miles
with no problem, except for some reluctance to down shift into second in
cold weather.

I had a '61 Volvo with similar symptoms to your Jeep. It turns out that a
previous owner had assembled the transmission incorrectly! A "seriously
blocked shift" and whining sounds like something broken. Whining is usually
a bad gear, bearing or both, and the cost of parts to rebuild the
transmission will probably make you cry. These transmissions require
special tools and precise clearances to be rebuilt properly, and in my
opinion a professional rebuild is likely to be cheaper, in the long run,
than an amateur attempt.

Earle

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118389432.915558.258980@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe
>




Earle Horton 06-10-2005 05:56 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
The '94 year model four cylinder manual sported an external slave cylinder
clutch housing upgrade. Since you are going to have to replace the
transmission one way or another, I would look into upgrading the clutch
housing and slave unit to the new design at the same time. Perhaps you can
find everything you need at a recycling yard. I have a '95 with the 2.5
liter engine and AX-5 transmission. It is going on eighty thousand miles
with no problem, except for some reluctance to down shift into second in
cold weather.

I had a '61 Volvo with similar symptoms to your Jeep. It turns out that a
previous owner had assembled the transmission incorrectly! A "seriously
blocked shift" and whining sounds like something broken. Whining is usually
a bad gear, bearing or both, and the cost of parts to rebuild the
transmission will probably make you cry. These transmissions require
special tools and precise clearances to be rebuilt properly, and in my
opinion a professional rebuild is likely to be cheaper, in the long run,
than an amateur attempt.

Earle

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118389432.915558.258980@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe
>




Earle Horton 06-10-2005 05:56 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
The '94 year model four cylinder manual sported an external slave cylinder
clutch housing upgrade. Since you are going to have to replace the
transmission one way or another, I would look into upgrading the clutch
housing and slave unit to the new design at the same time. Perhaps you can
find everything you need at a recycling yard. I have a '95 with the 2.5
liter engine and AX-5 transmission. It is going on eighty thousand miles
with no problem, except for some reluctance to down shift into second in
cold weather.

I had a '61 Volvo with similar symptoms to your Jeep. It turns out that a
previous owner had assembled the transmission incorrectly! A "seriously
blocked shift" and whining sounds like something broken. Whining is usually
a bad gear, bearing or both, and the cost of parts to rebuild the
transmission will probably make you cry. These transmissions require
special tools and precise clearances to be rebuilt properly, and in my
opinion a professional rebuild is likely to be cheaper, in the long run,
than an amateur attempt.

Earle

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118389432.915558.258980@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Fabe
>




Will Honea 06-11-2005 05:36 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:43:52 UTC "fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca"
<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!


Just for grins, call or email the guys at SoonerJeep.com - addresses
are on that website, AIR. While they have a reputatation of being a
bit proud of their stuff, I found them to be pretty reasonable. You
may be able to get a rebuilt tranny cheaper than having yours rebuilt
locally - I know the AX15 I bought from them was cheaper than any
rebuild estimates I've seen, even with shipping charges added in. The
shipping will probably tip the balance on the cost. I was replacing a
BA10/5 so I didn't even have a core.

Personal opinion, but I had a good experience with them. Good support
and followup with folks that seemed to know what they were doing (and
specializing in Jeeps).

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 06-11-2005 05:36 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:43:52 UTC "fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca"
<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!


Just for grins, call or email the guys at SoonerJeep.com - addresses
are on that website, AIR. While they have a reputatation of being a
bit proud of their stuff, I found them to be pretty reasonable. You
may be able to get a rebuilt tranny cheaper than having yours rebuilt
locally - I know the AX15 I bought from them was cheaper than any
rebuild estimates I've seen, even with shipping charges added in. The
shipping will probably tip the balance on the cost. I was replacing a
BA10/5 so I didn't even have a core.

Personal opinion, but I had a good experience with them. Good support
and followup with folks that seemed to know what they were doing (and
specializing in Jeeps).

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 06-11-2005 05:36 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:43:52 UTC "fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca"
<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!


Just for grins, call or email the guys at SoonerJeep.com - addresses
are on that website, AIR. While they have a reputatation of being a
bit proud of their stuff, I found them to be pretty reasonable. You
may be able to get a rebuilt tranny cheaper than having yours rebuilt
locally - I know the AX15 I bought from them was cheaper than any
rebuild estimates I've seen, even with shipping charges added in. The
shipping will probably tip the balance on the cost. I was replacing a
BA10/5 so I didn't even have a core.

Personal opinion, but I had a good experience with them. Good support
and followup with folks that seemed to know what they were doing (and
specializing in Jeeps).

--
Will Honea

Will Honea 06-11-2005 05:36 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:43:52 UTC "fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca"
<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Both Chilton and the Quadratec catalog seem to indicate a AX-15 with
> the AX-5 being models earlier to 91. Bill had some good comments.
> However, I had the master cylinder and slave replaced sometime back.
> Drat... that was the internal version too! Actually, over pumping the
> clutch to compensate for a slave cylinder on its last legs cost me that
> master cylinder, so I was told.
>
> The problem is consistent with 2-3 shifts. It is a seriously blocked
> shift. Rev'ing between gears does not help. I also have a transmission
> whine and grind that I will partially right off to a disintegrating
> transmission mount.
>
> Geez... a professional rebuild may cost me a fortune. With the price of
> vehicules these days, I might need to get burying in 'ye old YJ.
> Thanks!


Just for grins, call or email the guys at SoonerJeep.com - addresses
are on that website, AIR. While they have a reputatation of being a
bit proud of their stuff, I found them to be pretty reasonable. You
may be able to get a rebuilt tranny cheaper than having yours rebuilt
locally - I know the AX15 I bought from them was cheaper than any
rebuild estimates I've seen, even with shipping charges added in. The
shipping will probably tip the balance on the cost. I was replacing a
BA10/5 so I didn't even have a core.

Personal opinion, but I had a good experience with them. Good support
and followup with folks that seemed to know what they were doing (and
specializing in Jeeps).

--
Will Honea

fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-14-2005 02:45 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.


I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
destiny of buying a horse.

I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
jobs less begine.

Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
This problem "comes and goes".

Fabe


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-14-2005 02:45 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.


I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
destiny of buying a horse.

I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
jobs less begine.

Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
This problem "comes and goes".

Fabe


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-14-2005 02:45 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.


I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
destiny of buying a horse.

I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
jobs less begine.

Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
This problem "comes and goes".

Fabe


fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca 06-14-2005 02:45 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.


I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
destiny of buying a horse.

I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
jobs less begine.

Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
This problem "comes and goes".

Fabe


Earle Horton 06-14-2005 11:40 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
bet
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.

When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
future.

A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
problem, that is who you will need.

Earle
"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>
>
> I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> destiny of buying a horse.
>
> I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> jobs less begine.
>
> Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> This problem "comes and goes".
>
> Fabe
>





Earle Horton 06-14-2005 11:40 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
bet
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.

When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
future.

A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
problem, that is who you will need.

Earle
"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>
>
> I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> destiny of buying a horse.
>
> I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> jobs less begine.
>
> Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> This problem "comes and goes".
>
> Fabe
>





Earle Horton 06-14-2005 11:40 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
bet
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.

When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
future.

A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
problem, that is who you will need.

Earle
"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>
>
> I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> destiny of buying a horse.
>
> I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> jobs less begine.
>
> Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> This problem "comes and goes".
>
> Fabe
>





Earle Horton 06-14-2005 11:40 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
bet
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.

When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
future.

A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
problem, that is who you will need.

Earle
"Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón

<fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>
>
> I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> destiny of buying a horse.
>
> I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> jobs less begine.
>
> Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> This problem "comes and goes".
>
> Fabe
>





Jerry Bransford 06-14-2005 11:53 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
in the differentials.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
> is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
> bet
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>
> When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
> manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
> dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
> the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
> axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> future.
>
> A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> problem, that is who you will need.
>
> Earle
> "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>
> <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>
>>
>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>
>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>jobs less begine.
>>
>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>
>>Fabe
>>

>
>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 06-14-2005 11:53 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
in the differentials.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
> is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
> bet
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>
> When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
> manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
> dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
> the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
> axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> future.
>
> A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> problem, that is who you will need.
>
> Earle
> "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>
> <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>
>>
>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>
>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>jobs less begine.
>>
>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>
>>Fabe
>>

>
>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 06-14-2005 11:53 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
in the differentials.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
> is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
> bet
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>
> When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
> manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
> dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
> the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
> axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> future.
>
> A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> problem, that is who you will need.
>
> Earle
> "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>
> <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>
>>
>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>
>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>jobs less begine.
>>
>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>
>>Fabe
>>

>
>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 06-14-2005 11:53 AM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
in the differentials.

Jerry

Earle Horton wrote:
> Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to try
> is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a good
> bet
> http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
>
> When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The service
> manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your Jeep
> dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you get
> the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up Dana
> axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> future.
>
> A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> problem, that is who you will need.
>
> Earle
> "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
>
> <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
>>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
>>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
>>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
>>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
>>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
>>
>>
>>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
>>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
>>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
>>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
>>destiny of buying a horse.
>>
>>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
>>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
>>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
>>jobs less begine.
>>
>>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
>>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
>>This problem "comes and goes".
>>
>>Fabe
>>

>
>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Earle Horton 06-14-2005 03:03 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
> Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
> Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
> GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
> additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
> gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
> in the differentials.
>
> Jerry
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to

try
> > is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> > fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a

good
> > bet
> >

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> > used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
> >
> > When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> > mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The

service
> > manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> > specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your

Jeep
> > dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> > approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you

get
> > the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up

Dana
> > axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> > future.
> >
> > A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> > several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> > problem, that is who you will need.
> >
> > Earle
> > "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
> >
> > <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> >>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> >>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> >>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> >>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> >>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
> >>
> >>
> >>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> >>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> >>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> >>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> >>destiny of buying a horse.
> >>
> >>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> >>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> >>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> >>jobs less begine.
> >>
> >>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> >>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> >>This problem "comes and goes".
> >>
> >>Fabe
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Earle Horton 06-14-2005 03:03 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
> Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
> Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
> GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
> additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
> gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
> in the differentials.
>
> Jerry
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to

try
> > is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> > fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a

good
> > bet
> >

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> > used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
> >
> > When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> > mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The

service
> > manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> > specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your

Jeep
> > dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> > approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you

get
> > the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up

Dana
> > axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> > future.
> >
> > A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> > several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> > problem, that is who you will need.
> >
> > Earle
> > "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
> >
> > <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> >>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> >>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> >>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> >>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> >>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
> >>
> >>
> >>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> >>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> >>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> >>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> >>destiny of buying a horse.
> >>
> >>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> >>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> >>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> >>jobs less begine.
> >>
> >>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> >>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> >>This problem "comes and goes".
> >>
> >>Fabe
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Earle Horton 06-14-2005 03:03 PM

Re: AX15 transmission
 
I wonder if this applies to synthetics? When I shop for a high quality
synthetic MT fluid, everything I come up with is GL-5.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:72Dre.201$X71.160@fed1read07...
> Earl, GL-5 is exactly what you don't want to run in the AX-5 or AX-15.
> Jeep dropped the GL-5 recommendation several years ago and now specifies
> GL-3, though GL-4 is ok too. Most GL-5 gear lubes have sulphur-based
> additves that are harmful to the soft yellow metals used to make the
> gear synchronizers. GL-5 is mainly meant for the hypoid cut gears used
> in the differentials.
>
> Jerry
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Mechanics and physicians hate problems that come and go. One thing to

try
> > is to replace the fluid with high quality synthetic manual transmission
> > fluid of the proper weight. That is API/GL5 75W90. This looks like a

good
> > bet
> >

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...h.asp&N=400117. I
> > used the Mobil 1 offering from Checkers in my YJ, and it did all right.
> >
> > When I was younger I was told that all you need in addition to ordinary
> > mechanic's tools is "good snap ring pliers and a brass drift". The

service
> > manual from Jeep/Mopar will have all the special tools, clearances, and
> > specs. The source for the special tools is Miller Special Tools. Your

Jeep
> > dealer will have their phone number. Many special tools can be made or
> > approximated with materials at hand, but some are impossible. If you

get
> > the Miller Special Tools catalog, take a look at the kit for setting up

Dana
> > axles. It is real slick and chances are you will need or want it in the
> > future.
> >
> > A mechanical engineer is not the same as a technician who has rebuilt
> > several manual transmissions already. If there is really a transmission
> > problem, that is who you will need.
> >
> > Earle
> > "Mi vida...es un merengue." Olga Tañón
> >
> > <fabian_hartery@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:1118731508.919876.288690@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>I am converted (so to speak) in that I believe all are right in that I
> >>have an AX-5. Yes, the following year brought the slave cylinder
> >>outside. Hmmm... this job only sensibly ends up in a new pressure plate
> >>and clutch disk. Gee... "fun" were the days when hoisting my standard
> >>into my 86 Mustang let it fall in my face. You little &%$# !!!! was all
> >>that was needed to go into Hercules mode to mate that beast into place.
> >>
> >>
> >>I would like to know what special tools are? I can borrow a digital
> >>caliper, that I am sure. There is a machine shop at the end of the
> >>street for an odd disassembly and a close college is a mechanical eng,
> >>making any attempts by this 'sparkie' not totally prone to my final
> >>destiny of buying a horse.
> >>
> >>I will attempt the unthinkable and try to sweet talk the dealer into a
> >>full set of torque/clearance specs. My father knows the dealers parts
> >>man. The 'theory of relativity' (who you know) makes normal/amateur
> >>jobs less begine.
> >>
> >>Another a silly question, could a shifting fork have been damaged by
> >>over compensating (or feeling in gear) for the problem I am describing?
> >>This problem "comes and goes".
> >>
> >>Fabe
> >>

> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/





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