Hey Bill

Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.

I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)

well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
Saturday.....

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:07:53 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Earle,
> And there's a zillion types of ring pliers, too I usually whined up
> binding two screwdrivers together.
> That's the only name I know them by, you know it as micrometer, and
> very necessary in engine rebuilding, inside mics especially for the
> gears that ride an output shaft as regular roller bearings are not
> strong enough and we can't see the wear in a brass bushing:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/michrometer.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Guy I used to work with, defined transmission "special tools" as a brass
> > drift and a set of snap ring pliers. He got a lot of transmission work,
> > too. I think you're right. Under "Special Tools" your link lists "C-3339
> > Dial Indicator Set" and C-4961 Michrometer, Two Inch". If there was any
> > real "press"ing involved, there would be a bunch of collars and adapters to
> > buy. (What the hell is a "Michrometer"?)
> >
> > The guy who is putting this thing together, needs to look at the part about
> > different thickness snap rings. I think it may be important.
> >
> > Earle
>

 

Hey Bill

Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.

I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)

well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
Saturday.....

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:07:53 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Earle,
> And there's a zillion types of ring pliers, too I usually whined up
> binding two screwdrivers together.
> That's the only name I know them by, you know it as micrometer, and
> very necessary in engine rebuilding, inside mics especially for the
> gears that ride an output shaft as regular roller bearings are not
> strong enough and we can't see the wear in a brass bushing:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/michrometer.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Guy I used to work with, defined transmission "special tools" as a brass
> > drift and a set of snap ring pliers. He got a lot of transmission work,
> > too. I think you're right. Under "Special Tools" your link lists "C-3339
> > Dial Indicator Set" and C-4961 Michrometer, Two Inch". If there was any
> > real "press"ing involved, there would be a bunch of collars and adapters to
> > buy. (What the hell is a "Michrometer"?)
> >
> > The guy who is putting this thing together, needs to look at the part about
> > different thickness snap rings. I think it may be important.
> >
> > Earle
>

 

I don't used gaskets. I can't think of a place where it would be
necessary as a shim.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Brian Moga wrote:
>
> One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
> apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
> Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
> in the tranny?
>
> Brian Moga
> Waxhaw.Net

 

I don't used gaskets. I can't think of a place where it would be
necessary as a shim.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Brian Moga wrote:
>
> One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
> apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
> Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
> in the tranny?
>
> Brian Moga
> Waxhaw.Net

 

I don't used gaskets. I can't think of a place where it would be
necessary as a shim.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Brian Moga wrote:
>
> One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
> apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
> Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
> in the tranny?
>
> Brian Moga
> Waxhaw.Net

 

One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
in the tranny?

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:58:44 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
> Usually we buy a small parts kit, of which the snap rings are a
> part.
> Take a file and remove any burs your improvised tool made. On
> AMERICAN transmission I remove the bearing out the front by putting that
> bearing in a little bind and driven the input shaft in with a mallet,
> moving the bearing out with each smack. Looks like everything separates
> with your Japanese thing, I'd just point the input shaft at a two by
> four and let inertia slip the bearing off.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian Moga wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill
> >
> > Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
> > a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
> > pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
> > screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
> > part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
> > started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.
> >
> > I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
> > mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)
> >
> > well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
> > Saturday.....
> >
> > Brian Moga
> > Waxhaw.Net
>

 

One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
in the tranny?

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:58:44 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
> Usually we buy a small parts kit, of which the snap rings are a
> part.
> Take a file and remove any burs your improvised tool made. On
> AMERICAN transmission I remove the bearing out the front by putting that
> bearing in a little bind and driven the input shaft in with a mallet,
> moving the bearing out with each smack. Looks like everything separates
> with your Japanese thing, I'd just point the input shaft at a two by
> four and let inertia slip the bearing off.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian Moga wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill
> >
> > Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
> > a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
> > pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
> > screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
> > part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
> > started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.
> >
> > I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
> > mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)
> >
> > well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
> > Saturday.....
> >
> > Brian Moga
> > Waxhaw.Net
>

 

One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
in the tranny?

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:58:44 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
> Usually we buy a small parts kit, of which the snap rings are a
> part.
> Take a file and remove any burs your improvised tool made. On
> AMERICAN transmission I remove the bearing out the front by putting that
> bearing in a little bind and driven the input shaft in with a mallet,
> moving the bearing out with each smack. Looks like everything separates
> with your Japanese thing, I'd just point the input shaft at a two by
> four and let inertia slip the bearing off.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian Moga wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill
> >
> > Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
> > a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
> > pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
> > screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
> > part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
> > started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.
> >
> > I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
> > mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)
> >
> > well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
> > Saturday.....
> >
> > Brian Moga
> > Waxhaw.Net
>

 

The spacing appears to be taken care of by the snap ring selection. There
are different philosophies on paper gaskets. Did your small parts kit come
with them? On the one hand, they swell up with oil to make a better seal.
That is what the old theory says anyway. On the other hand, I have seen
them shrink with age, split, and leak. Most people go with RTV nowadays, as
they have some to believe that it "lasts forever".

Earle

"Brian Moga" <bmoga@waxhaw.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0511142141210.1861@waxhaw.net.. .

One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
in the tranny?

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:58:44 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
> Usually we buy a small parts kit, of which the snap rings are a
> part.
> Take a file and remove any burs your improvised tool made. On
> AMERICAN transmission I remove the bearing out the front by putting that
> bearing in a little bind and driven the input shaft in with a mallet,
> moving the bearing out with each smack. Looks like everything separates
> with your Japanese thing, I'd just point the input shaft at a two by
> four and let inertia slip the bearing off.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian Moga wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill
> >
> > Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
> > a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
> > pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
> > screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
> > part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
> > started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.
> >
> > I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
> > mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)
> >
> > well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
> > Saturday.....
> >
> > Brian Moga
> > Waxhaw.Net
>

 

The spacing appears to be taken care of by the snap ring selection. There
are different philosophies on paper gaskets. Did your small parts kit come
with them? On the one hand, they swell up with oil to make a better seal.
That is what the old theory says anyway. On the other hand, I have seen
them shrink with age, split, and leak. Most people go with RTV nowadays, as
they have some to believe that it "lasts forever".

Earle

"Brian Moga" <bmoga@waxhaw.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0511142141210.1861@waxhaw.net.. .

One other rebuild matter comes to mind. When I took this tranny
apart there were no paper gaskets. Just good old RTV....
Do I need the paper gaskets? Does not having them affect spacing
in the tranny?

Brian Moga
Waxhaw.Net

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:58:44 -0800
> From: "L.W.([iso-8859-1] ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Subject: Re: AX15 Rebuild Bearings
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
> Usually we buy a small parts kit, of which the snap rings are a
> part.
> Take a file and remove any burs your improvised tool made. On
> AMERICAN transmission I remove the bearing out the front by putting that
> bearing in a little bind and driven the input shaft in with a mallet,
> moving the bearing out with each smack. Looks like everything separates
> with your Japanese thing, I'd just point the input shaft at a two by
> four and let inertia slip the bearing off.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian Moga wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill
> >
> > Thanks for the info... This is my first tranny rebuild and I have
> > a new respect for the internal workings of an AX15. As for snap ring
> > pliers - 6 of the snap rings in this tranny has to be done by double
> > screwdriver (finding them after the fly across the floor was the hard
> > part). I am thinking a bearing seperator is needed to get these 3
> > started ... I can not get enough leverage from the big screw drivers.
> >
> > I'm just looking for some more agressive home remedies for getting these
> > mothers off.... (PB Blaster?)
> >
> > well I will read people ideas this week and try again on Friday or
> > Saturday.....
> >
> > Brian Moga
> > Waxhaw.Net
>