Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here)
> highway all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
> Usually 22-23mpg.
>
> Bryan

Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the
highway (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's
being towed behind my RV.

Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.

Bill

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Nwi7e.1165$eR.1074@news02.roc.ny...
> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here)
> highway all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
> Usually 22-23mpg.
>
> Bryan

Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the
highway (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's
being towed behind my RV.

Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.

Bill

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Nwi7e.1165$eR.1074@news02.roc.ny...
> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here)
> highway all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
> Usually 22-23mpg.
>
> Bryan

Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the
highway (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's
being towed behind my RV.

Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.

Bill

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

So you don't see yourself doing the Rat Patrol:
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/jeepthing/flying.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
> 55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
> tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
> stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
> With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
> a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
> questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
> was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

So you don't see yourself doing the Rat Patrol:
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/jeepthing/flying.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
> 55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
> tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
> stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
> With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
> a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
> questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
> was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

So you don't see yourself doing the Rat Patrol:
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/jeepthing/flying.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
> 55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
> tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
> stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
> With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
> a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
> questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
> was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

So you don't see yourself doing the Rat Patrol:
http://www.omencity.com/thetedster/jeepthing/flying.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
> 55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
> tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
> stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
> With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
> a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
> questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
> was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d8d31$425e01a9$943f9512$13604@STARBAND.NET...
> "Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Nwi7e.1165$eR.1074@news02.roc.ny...
>> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here) highway
>> all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
>> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
>> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
>> Usually 22-23mpg.
>>
>> Bryan
>
> Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
> expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
> that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
> is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
> desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the highway
> (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's being towed
> behind my RV.
>
> Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.
>
> Bill

I'm just adding my two cents to this thread because maybe it will help the
original poster.

I spent twenty-six years in the army with many thousands of hours in M38,
M151, and other assorted vehicles, including the combat development command
where we tested some strange things.

The design was for off-road, meaning that the tires (look at them) are for
mud and not for high-speed, or even wet weather on asphalt. An original Jeep
tire will hydroplane easily, in rain, and, if dry, will get very hot at
highway speeds, since it is riding on only the center high point.

The power train, and the short wheelbase chassis, is more for pulling stumps
than driving in a straight line, at any speed.

We have had more soldier accidents on highways than off-road, and a lot of
the safety briefings were devoted to driving on the highway, where the
driver is constantly fighting the large wheels going in every direction.
Remember, the military Jeeps did not have tire balancing, front end
alignments, etc. Nothing that the modern car has to have to drive in a
straight line at highway speeds.

And shall I tell you about convoying Jeeps in the rain? The vacuum wipers
that slow to nothing when you accelerate. The canvas top that blows up then
down with a whack that makes you hold your ears. The heater - oh wait -
there's no heater. The small tail lights that you only see when you are ten
feet away -oops! The wonderful olive drab paint that means nobody can see
you in the dark -oops!

Not me.

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d8d31$425e01a9$943f9512$13604@STARBAND.NET...
> "Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Nwi7e.1165$eR.1074@news02.roc.ny...
>> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here) highway
>> all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
>> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
>> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
>> Usually 22-23mpg.
>>
>> Bryan
>
> Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
> expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
> that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
> is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
> desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the highway
> (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's being towed
> behind my RV.
>
> Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.
>
> Bill

I'm just adding my two cents to this thread because maybe it will help the
original poster.

I spent twenty-six years in the army with many thousands of hours in M38,
M151, and other assorted vehicles, including the combat development command
where we tested some strange things.

The design was for off-road, meaning that the tires (look at them) are for
mud and not for high-speed, or even wet weather on asphalt. An original Jeep
tire will hydroplane easily, in rain, and, if dry, will get very hot at
highway speeds, since it is riding on only the center high point.

The power train, and the short wheelbase chassis, is more for pulling stumps
than driving in a straight line, at any speed.

We have had more soldier accidents on highways than off-road, and a lot of
the safety briefings were devoted to driving on the highway, where the
driver is constantly fighting the large wheels going in every direction.
Remember, the military Jeeps did not have tire balancing, front end
alignments, etc. Nothing that the modern car has to have to drive in a
straight line at highway speeds.

And shall I tell you about convoying Jeeps in the rain? The vacuum wipers
that slow to nothing when you accelerate. The canvas top that blows up then
down with a whack that makes you hold your ears. The heater - oh wait -
there's no heater. The small tail lights that you only see when you are ten
feet away -oops! The wonderful olive drab paint that means nobody can see
you in the dark -oops!

Not me.

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d8d31$425e01a9$943f9512$13604@STARBAND.NET...
> "Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Nwi7e.1165$eR.1074@news02.roc.ny...
>> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here) highway
>> all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
>> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
>> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
>> Usually 22-23mpg.
>>
>> Bryan
>
> Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
> expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
> that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
> is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
> desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the highway
> (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's being towed
> behind my RV.
>
> Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.
>
> Bill

I'm just adding my two cents to this thread because maybe it will help the
original poster.

I spent twenty-six years in the army with many thousands of hours in M38,
M151, and other assorted vehicles, including the combat development command
where we tested some strange things.

The design was for off-road, meaning that the tires (look at them) are for
mud and not for high-speed, or even wet weather on asphalt. An original Jeep
tire will hydroplane easily, in rain, and, if dry, will get very hot at
highway speeds, since it is riding on only the center high point.

The power train, and the short wheelbase chassis, is more for pulling stumps
than driving in a straight line, at any speed.

We have had more soldier accidents on highways than off-road, and a lot of
the safety briefings were devoted to driving on the highway, where the
driver is constantly fighting the large wheels going in every direction.
Remember, the military Jeeps did not have tire balancing, front end
alignments, etc. Nothing that the modern car has to have to drive in a
straight line at highway speeds.

And shall I tell you about convoying Jeeps in the rain? The vacuum wipers
that slow to nothing when you accelerate. The canvas top that blows up then
down with a whack that makes you hold your ears. The heater - oh wait -
there's no heater. The small tail lights that you only see when you are ten
feet away -oops! The wonderful olive drab paint that means nobody can see
you in the dark -oops!

Not me.