Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here) highway all
the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24. Usually
22-23mpg.

Bryan



"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a9051$425d92aa$943f9512$1026@STARBAND.NET...
> "geigertube" <stevensanders@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> I read that these old
>> jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
>> causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
>> getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so?
>
> Forget it. Even a modern TJ 4-banger is not designed for "highway speeds".
> My 2000 TJ 4-cylinder strains to reach 60-65.
>
>

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

military jeeps came with 5.38 gears in the differentials, not really
happy over 45 or so although they will get up to 60 on a straight
level road with a good tailwind ;) but it's hard on the engine.
Really, for "putting" around town you'd be fine.


If you have to spend appreaciable time over 45 than for ~$650 or so a
Warn or Saturn overdrive is the answer. With one of these you still
only get 60 mph, but you can do it without the tailwind & the engine
will be much happier. You rally don't want to go much faster than 60
in one of those things anyhow, that would tend to induce nervous
quivers in both you & the jeep :(.

ODs are available from Herm Tilford @

http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/

Herms a real good guy, know his stuff inside out

If you decide you need to go faster than many people go with a Buick
V^ engine swap, cheap &easy.

If you arn't interested in staying "stock" or properly maintaining the
stock Ross steeringsetup than a saginaw steering conversion might
make sence also.

The one item I would really recommend from a safety standpoint would
be upgrading the brakes to 11" drums with a dual circuit master
cylinder. This also is a cheap & easy project if you can scrounge the
parts.

For mare info I'd sugest perusing the Willys Tech & M38A1 groups on
Yahoo as well as "The Early CJ5 &DauntlessV6"
(http://www.earlycj5.com/)

and

"The CJ3B Page" (http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/)

websites.

Howard.

http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html


On 13 Apr 2005 09:04:13 -0700, "geigertube" <stevensanders@gmail.com>
wrote:

>All,
>
>I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
>around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
>faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
>finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
>Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
>jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
>causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
>getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
>don't seem to be of much help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>steven

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

military jeeps came with 5.38 gears in the differentials, not really
happy over 45 or so although they will get up to 60 on a straight
level road with a good tailwind ;) but it's hard on the engine.
Really, for "putting" around town you'd be fine.


If you have to spend appreaciable time over 45 than for ~$650 or so a
Warn or Saturn overdrive is the answer. With one of these you still
only get 60 mph, but you can do it without the tailwind & the engine
will be much happier. You rally don't want to go much faster than 60
in one of those things anyhow, that would tend to induce nervous
quivers in both you & the jeep :(.

ODs are available from Herm Tilford @

http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/

Herms a real good guy, know his stuff inside out

If you decide you need to go faster than many people go with a Buick
V^ engine swap, cheap &easy.

If you arn't interested in staying "stock" or properly maintaining the
stock Ross steeringsetup than a saginaw steering conversion might
make sence also.

The one item I would really recommend from a safety standpoint would
be upgrading the brakes to 11" drums with a dual circuit master
cylinder. This also is a cheap & easy project if you can scrounge the
parts.

For mare info I'd sugest perusing the Willys Tech & M38A1 groups on
Yahoo as well as "The Early CJ5 &DauntlessV6"
(http://www.earlycj5.com/)

and

"The CJ3B Page" (http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/)

websites.

Howard.

http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html


On 13 Apr 2005 09:04:13 -0700, "geigertube" <stevensanders@gmail.com>
wrote:

>All,
>
>I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
>around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
>faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
>finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
>Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
>jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
>causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
>getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
>don't seem to be of much help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>steven

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

military jeeps came with 5.38 gears in the differentials, not really
happy over 45 or so although they will get up to 60 on a straight
level road with a good tailwind ;) but it's hard on the engine.
Really, for "putting" around town you'd be fine.


If you have to spend appreaciable time over 45 than for ~$650 or so a
Warn or Saturn overdrive is the answer. With one of these you still
only get 60 mph, but you can do it without the tailwind & the engine
will be much happier. You rally don't want to go much faster than 60
in one of those things anyhow, that would tend to induce nervous
quivers in both you & the jeep :(.

ODs are available from Herm Tilford @

http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/

Herms a real good guy, know his stuff inside out

If you decide you need to go faster than many people go with a Buick
V^ engine swap, cheap &easy.

If you arn't interested in staying "stock" or properly maintaining the
stock Ross steeringsetup than a saginaw steering conversion might
make sence also.

The one item I would really recommend from a safety standpoint would
be upgrading the brakes to 11" drums with a dual circuit master
cylinder. This also is a cheap & easy project if you can scrounge the
parts.

For mare info I'd sugest perusing the Willys Tech & M38A1 groups on
Yahoo as well as "The Early CJ5 &DauntlessV6"
(http://www.earlycj5.com/)

and

"The CJ3B Page" (http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/)

websites.

Howard.

http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html


On 13 Apr 2005 09:04:13 -0700, "geigertube" <stevensanders@gmail.com>
wrote:

>All,
>
>I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
>around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
>faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
>finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
>Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
>jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
>causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
>getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
>don't seem to be of much help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>steven

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

military jeeps came with 5.38 gears in the differentials, not really
happy over 45 or so although they will get up to 60 on a straight
level road with a good tailwind ;) but it's hard on the engine.
Really, for "putting" around town you'd be fine.


If you have to spend appreaciable time over 45 than for ~$650 or so a
Warn or Saturn overdrive is the answer. With one of these you still
only get 60 mph, but you can do it without the tailwind & the engine
will be much happier. You rally don't want to go much faster than 60
in one of those things anyhow, that would tend to induce nervous
quivers in both you & the jeep :(.

ODs are available from Herm Tilford @

http://www.hermtheoverdriveguy.com/

Herms a real good guy, know his stuff inside out

If you decide you need to go faster than many people go with a Buick
V^ engine swap, cheap &easy.

If you arn't interested in staying "stock" or properly maintaining the
stock Ross steeringsetup than a saginaw steering conversion might
make sence also.

The one item I would really recommend from a safety standpoint would
be upgrading the brakes to 11" drums with a dual circuit master
cylinder. This also is a cheap & easy project if you can scrounge the
parts.

For mare info I'd sugest perusing the Willys Tech & M38A1 groups on
Yahoo as well as "The Early CJ5 &DauntlessV6"
(http://www.earlycj5.com/)

and

"The CJ3B Page" (http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/)

websites.

Howard.

http://users.eastlink.ca/~howarde/Tonka.html


On 13 Apr 2005 09:04:13 -0700, "geigertube" <stevensanders@gmail.com>
wrote:

>All,
>
>I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
>around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
>faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
>finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
>Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
>jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
>causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
>getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
>don't seem to be of much help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>steven

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:04:13 UTC "geigertube"
<stevensanders@gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
> around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
> faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
> finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
> Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
> jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
> causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
> getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
> don't seem to be of much help.

Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.

--
Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:04:13 UTC "geigertube"
<stevensanders@gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
> around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
> faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
> finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
> Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
> jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
> causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
> getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
> don't seem to be of much help.

Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.

--
Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:04:13 UTC "geigertube"
<stevensanders@gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
> around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
> faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
> finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
> Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
> jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
> causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
> getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
> don't seem to be of much help.

Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.

--
Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:04:13 UTC "geigertube"
<stevensanders@gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm considering buying an old army jeep, and fixing it up as a putt
> around town vehicle. I'm not particularly interested in a completely
> faithful restoration, at least as far as the internals go, but in
> finding a good compromise between aesthetics and street functionality.
>
> Anyway, my main concern is with highway speeds. I read that these old
> jeeps have a hard time getting above 45 without blowing the engines or
> causing some other kind of serious trouble. What are my options for
> getting an army jeep up to 65MPH or so? The websites I've seen so far
> don't seem to be of much help.

Years back I drove a '48 MB for a couple of years. It would get up to
55-60 on the downhil sections of the Garden State Parkway if you had a
tail wind, but it sounded like it was wound so tight that you didn't
stay yher too long. What I remember most about it was the stability.
With the short wheel base and narrow track keeping it on the road was
a full time job at or above 50mph and staying in one lane was
questionable, especially if there was any crosswind. Great fun when I
was young and stupid but not my idea of a touring car.

--
Will Honea

Re: Army Jeeps- Highway usage
 

"Bryan" <frametype@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Nwi7e.1165$eR.1074@news02.roc.ny...
> Got to disagree. My '05 TJ runs 65-70mph (70 is the limit here)
> highway all the time here in WV, except for some of the steeper hills.
> But again, the 2.4. has more power than the 2.5.
> Mileage has been consistently between a low of 20 and a high of 24.
> Usually 22-23mpg.
>
> Bryan

Bryan, my 2000 TJ has *never* delivered better than 17, and I usually
expect 14. That little engine is so anemic and the Jeep is geared so low
that 70, for me, is wishful thinking. Here in West Texas the speed limit
is 75, but most traffic travels between 85 and 90, and 100+ on lonely
desert highways is to be expected. The only time my Jeep sees the
highway (and just about the only time it sees pavement) is when it's
being towed behind my RV.

Maybe it's the new 6-speed that makes the difference.

Bill