anybody built theier own CJ frame?
02-28-2006, 09:04 PM
#71
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404CC54.64F454A8@***.net...
> That's your Jeep, Mine is subjected to the stresses far in excess
> of commercial trucks: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> J White wrote:
>>
>> Apples to oranges. Commercial truck frames are subjected to stresses
>> far
>> in excess of what a Jeep frame would see.
>> The manufactures have invested a considerable amount R&D to delivering
>> a
>> product that is light but carries a substantial safety margin. By using
>> high-tensile steel and heat-treating it becomes something that only
>> qualified fabricators should mess with. As such, the manufacturer and the
>> feds try to ensure public safety by limiting unsafe modifications. If the
>> frames are modified other than specified by the manufacturer, then the
>> manufacturer is no longer liable.
>>
>> << Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
>> Subpart J -Frames, Cab and Body Components, Wheels, Steering, and
>> Suspension Systems
>> §393.201 Frames.
>> (a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be
>> cracked, loose, sagging or broken. (b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab
>> or
>> the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or
>> missing.
>> (c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or
>> notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.
>> (d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of
>> a
>> commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle
>> manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also
>> be
>> in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.
>> (e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except
>> as
>> specified by the manufacturer.>>>>>
>>
>> Light trucks are another thing all together. Lower tensile strength
>> and
>> no heat treating. Much more forgiving.
>> You would definitely have a higher resale if the frame were
>> professionally
>> fabbed rather than home built. If that is a concern.
>> The biggest drawback would have to be the abilities of the person
>> doing
>> the welding. Properly welded joints are stronger than the base metal.
>> If you have the desire to do it, the proper training and select the
>> right
>> materials, you will end up with something comparable to the mandrel bent
>> frames. The mandrel bent frames, of course, would likely have much
>> tighter
>> tolerances but wouldn't necessarily be any stronger.
>>
>> It would easier just to go find a decent used frame. Do you do some
>> extreme four-wheeling? Do really you need something stronger than stock?
>> There are always some on Ebay. Here are a bunch in Texas that would cost
>> around a grand delivered. Item # 4568417170. Realistically, you would
>> spend
>> around half of this figure in materials and your time has to be worth
>> something.
>>
>> The link to shopfloortalk that Rusted posted was excellent. It offers a
>> really good perspective on exactly what is involved.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404CC54.64F454A8@***.net...
> That's your Jeep, Mine is subjected to the stresses far in excess
> of commercial trucks: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> J White wrote:
>>
>> Apples to oranges. Commercial truck frames are subjected to stresses
>> far
>> in excess of what a Jeep frame would see.
>> The manufactures have invested a considerable amount R&D to delivering
>> a
>> product that is light but carries a substantial safety margin. By using
>> high-tensile steel and heat-treating it becomes something that only
>> qualified fabricators should mess with. As such, the manufacturer and the
>> feds try to ensure public safety by limiting unsafe modifications. If the
>> frames are modified other than specified by the manufacturer, then the
>> manufacturer is no longer liable.
>>
>> << Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
>> Subpart J -Frames, Cab and Body Components, Wheels, Steering, and
>> Suspension Systems
>> §393.201 Frames.
>> (a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be
>> cracked, loose, sagging or broken. (b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab
>> or
>> the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or
>> missing.
>> (c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or
>> notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.
>> (d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of
>> a
>> commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle
>> manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also
>> be
>> in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.
>> (e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except
>> as
>> specified by the manufacturer.>>>>>
>>
>> Light trucks are another thing all together. Lower tensile strength
>> and
>> no heat treating. Much more forgiving.
>> You would definitely have a higher resale if the frame were
>> professionally
>> fabbed rather than home built. If that is a concern.
>> The biggest drawback would have to be the abilities of the person
>> doing
>> the welding. Properly welded joints are stronger than the base metal.
>> If you have the desire to do it, the proper training and select the
>> right
>> materials, you will end up with something comparable to the mandrel bent
>> frames. The mandrel bent frames, of course, would likely have much
>> tighter
>> tolerances but wouldn't necessarily be any stronger.
>>
>> It would easier just to go find a decent used frame. Do you do some
>> extreme four-wheeling? Do really you need something stronger than stock?
>> There are always some on Ebay. Here are a bunch in Texas that would cost
>> around a grand delivered. Item # 4568417170. Realistically, you would
>> spend
>> around half of this figure in materials and your time has to be worth
>> something.
>>
>> The link to shopfloortalk that Rusted posted was excellent. It offers a
>> really good perspective on exactly what is involved.
02-28-2006, 09:04 PM
#72
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404CC54.64F454A8@***.net...
> That's your Jeep, Mine is subjected to the stresses far in excess
> of commercial trucks: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> J White wrote:
>>
>> Apples to oranges. Commercial truck frames are subjected to stresses
>> far
>> in excess of what a Jeep frame would see.
>> The manufactures have invested a considerable amount R&D to delivering
>> a
>> product that is light but carries a substantial safety margin. By using
>> high-tensile steel and heat-treating it becomes something that only
>> qualified fabricators should mess with. As such, the manufacturer and the
>> feds try to ensure public safety by limiting unsafe modifications. If the
>> frames are modified other than specified by the manufacturer, then the
>> manufacturer is no longer liable.
>>
>> << Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
>> Subpart J -Frames, Cab and Body Components, Wheels, Steering, and
>> Suspension Systems
>> §393.201 Frames.
>> (a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be
>> cracked, loose, sagging or broken. (b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab
>> or
>> the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or
>> missing.
>> (c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or
>> notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.
>> (d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of
>> a
>> commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle
>> manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also
>> be
>> in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.
>> (e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except
>> as
>> specified by the manufacturer.>>>>>
>>
>> Light trucks are another thing all together. Lower tensile strength
>> and
>> no heat treating. Much more forgiving.
>> You would definitely have a higher resale if the frame were
>> professionally
>> fabbed rather than home built. If that is a concern.
>> The biggest drawback would have to be the abilities of the person
>> doing
>> the welding. Properly welded joints are stronger than the base metal.
>> If you have the desire to do it, the proper training and select the
>> right
>> materials, you will end up with something comparable to the mandrel bent
>> frames. The mandrel bent frames, of course, would likely have much
>> tighter
>> tolerances but wouldn't necessarily be any stronger.
>>
>> It would easier just to go find a decent used frame. Do you do some
>> extreme four-wheeling? Do really you need something stronger than stock?
>> There are always some on Ebay. Here are a bunch in Texas that would cost
>> around a grand delivered. Item # 4568417170. Realistically, you would
>> spend
>> around half of this figure in materials and your time has to be worth
>> something.
>>
>> The link to shopfloortalk that Rusted posted was excellent. It offers a
>> really good perspective on exactly what is involved.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404CC54.64F454A8@***.net...
> That's your Jeep, Mine is subjected to the stresses far in excess
> of commercial trucks: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> J White wrote:
>>
>> Apples to oranges. Commercial truck frames are subjected to stresses
>> far
>> in excess of what a Jeep frame would see.
>> The manufactures have invested a considerable amount R&D to delivering
>> a
>> product that is light but carries a substantial safety margin. By using
>> high-tensile steel and heat-treating it becomes something that only
>> qualified fabricators should mess with. As such, the manufacturer and the
>> feds try to ensure public safety by limiting unsafe modifications. If the
>> frames are modified other than specified by the manufacturer, then the
>> manufacturer is no longer liable.
>>
>> << Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
>> Subpart J -Frames, Cab and Body Components, Wheels, Steering, and
>> Suspension Systems
>> §393.201 Frames.
>> (a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be
>> cracked, loose, sagging or broken. (b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab
>> or
>> the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or
>> missing.
>> (c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or
>> notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.
>> (d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of
>> a
>> commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle
>> manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also
>> be
>> in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.
>> (e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except
>> as
>> specified by the manufacturer.>>>>>
>>
>> Light trucks are another thing all together. Lower tensile strength
>> and
>> no heat treating. Much more forgiving.
>> You would definitely have a higher resale if the frame were
>> professionally
>> fabbed rather than home built. If that is a concern.
>> The biggest drawback would have to be the abilities of the person
>> doing
>> the welding. Properly welded joints are stronger than the base metal.
>> If you have the desire to do it, the proper training and select the
>> right
>> materials, you will end up with something comparable to the mandrel bent
>> frames. The mandrel bent frames, of course, would likely have much
>> tighter
>> tolerances but wouldn't necessarily be any stronger.
>>
>> It would easier just to go find a decent used frame. Do you do some
>> extreme four-wheeling? Do really you need something stronger than stock?
>> There are always some on Ebay. Here are a bunch in Texas that would cost
>> around a grand delivered. Item # 4568417170. Realistically, you would
>> spend
>> around half of this figure in materials and your time has to be worth
>> something.
>>
>> The link to shopfloortalk that Rusted posted was excellent. It offers a
>> really good perspective on exactly what is involved.
02-28-2006, 09:04 PM
#73
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404CC54.64F454A8@***.net...
> That's your Jeep, Mine is subjected to the stresses far in excess
> of commercial trucks: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> J White wrote:
>>
>> Apples to oranges. Commercial truck frames are subjected to stresses
>> far
>> in excess of what a Jeep frame would see.
>> The manufactures have invested a considerable amount R&D to delivering
>> a
>> product that is light but carries a substantial safety margin. By using
>> high-tensile steel and heat-treating it becomes something that only
>> qualified fabricators should mess with. As such, the manufacturer and the
>> feds try to ensure public safety by limiting unsafe modifications. If the
>> frames are modified other than specified by the manufacturer, then the
>> manufacturer is no longer liable.
>>
>> << Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
>> Subpart J -Frames, Cab and Body Components, Wheels, Steering, and
>> Suspension Systems
>> §393.201 Frames.
>> (a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be
>> cracked, loose, sagging or broken. (b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab
>> or
>> the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or
>> missing.
>> (c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or
>> notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.
>> (d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of
>> a
>> commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle
>> manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also
>> be
>> in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.
>> (e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except
>> as
>> specified by the manufacturer.>>>>>
>>
>> Light trucks are another thing all together. Lower tensile strength
>> and
>> no heat treating. Much more forgiving.
>> You would definitely have a higher resale if the frame were
>> professionally
>> fabbed rather than home built. If that is a concern.
>> The biggest drawback would have to be the abilities of the person
>> doing
>> the welding. Properly welded joints are stronger than the base metal.
>> If you have the desire to do it, the proper training and select the
>> right
>> materials, you will end up with something comparable to the mandrel bent
>> frames. The mandrel bent frames, of course, would likely have much
>> tighter
>> tolerances but wouldn't necessarily be any stronger.
>>
>> It would easier just to go find a decent used frame. Do you do some
>> extreme four-wheeling? Do really you need something stronger than stock?
>> There are always some on Ebay. Here are a bunch in Texas that would cost
>> around a grand delivered. Item # 4568417170. Realistically, you would
>> spend
>> around half of this figure in materials and your time has to be worth
>> something.
>>
>> The link to shopfloortalk that Rusted posted was excellent. It offers a
>> really good perspective on exactly what is involved.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404CC54.64F454A8@***.net...
> That's your Jeep, Mine is subjected to the stresses far in excess
> of commercial trucks: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> J White wrote:
>>
>> Apples to oranges. Commercial truck frames are subjected to stresses
>> far
>> in excess of what a Jeep frame would see.
>> The manufactures have invested a considerable amount R&D to delivering
>> a
>> product that is light but carries a substantial safety margin. By using
>> high-tensile steel and heat-treating it becomes something that only
>> qualified fabricators should mess with. As such, the manufacturer and the
>> feds try to ensure public safety by limiting unsafe modifications. If the
>> frames are modified other than specified by the manufacturer, then the
>> manufacturer is no longer liable.
>>
>> << Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
>> Subpart J -Frames, Cab and Body Components, Wheels, Steering, and
>> Suspension Systems
>> §393.201 Frames.
>> (a) The frame or chassis of each commercial motor vehicle shall not be
>> cracked, loose, sagging or broken. (b) Bolts or brackets securing the cab
>> or
>> the body of the vehicle to the frame must not be loose, broken, or
>> missing.
>> (c) The frame rail flanges between the axles shall not be bent, cut or
>> notched, except as specified by the manufacturer.
>> (d) Parts and accessories shall not be welded to the frame or chassis of
>> a
>> commercial motor vehicle except in accordance with the vehicle
>> manufacturer's recommendations. Any welded repair of the frame must also
>> be
>> in accordance with the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations.
>> (e) No holes shall be drilled in the top or bottom rail flanges, except
>> as
>> specified by the manufacturer.>>>>>
>>
>> Light trucks are another thing all together. Lower tensile strength
>> and
>> no heat treating. Much more forgiving.
>> You would definitely have a higher resale if the frame were
>> professionally
>> fabbed rather than home built. If that is a concern.
>> The biggest drawback would have to be the abilities of the person
>> doing
>> the welding. Properly welded joints are stronger than the base metal.
>> If you have the desire to do it, the proper training and select the
>> right
>> materials, you will end up with something comparable to the mandrel bent
>> frames. The mandrel bent frames, of course, would likely have much
>> tighter
>> tolerances but wouldn't necessarily be any stronger.
>>
>> It would easier just to go find a decent used frame. Do you do some
>> extreme four-wheeling? Do really you need something stronger than stock?
>> There are always some on Ebay. Here are a bunch in Texas that would cost
>> around a grand delivered. Item # 4568417170. Realistically, you would
>> spend
>> around half of this figure in materials and your time has to be worth
>> something.
>>
>> The link to shopfloortalk that Rusted posted was excellent. It offers a
>> really good perspective on exactly what is involved.
02-28-2006, 09:47 PM
#74
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
The strongest truck I drove was a 450 HP Mack V8:
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
02-28-2006, 09:47 PM
#75
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
The strongest truck I drove was a 450 HP Mack V8:
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
02-28-2006, 09:47 PM
#76
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
The strongest truck I drove was a 450 HP Mack V8:
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
02-28-2006, 09:47 PM
#77
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
The strongest truck I drove was a 450 HP Mack V8:
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
http://www.----------.com/mack.jpg My Jeep with siamese small block
Chevy, of course is stronger.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
J White wrote:
>
> Really? Far in excess of commercial trucks? Yeah, okay. Whatever you say.
02-28-2006, 09:50 PM
#78
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
Bill, If the SMOG wackos give the junkman a thousand bucks to recycle a V8,
I'll bet the owner doesn't get much of it. I heard that a lot of the
recycled vehicles are sold to Mexico too, where they aren't so picky about
what they drive. It used to be about transportation. Now I don't know what
it is about. After paying thirty bucks for half a tank today, I don't much
fancy a V8, but I figure if others want to drive them that is OK by me.
Still have the Suburban though. Got to have something that will keep a
stack of drywall out of the rain.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404F780.4C4515FE@***.net...
> Yes, most of my wheeling is now from County line Road, Ocotillo
> Wells, CA with my Son: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html And
> Son-in-law: http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html It's sixties miles
> closer, and we can get further away from the crazies:
> http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...ksgiving00.cfm
> Your friend sell his '72 Wagoneer, yet?
> http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/IMG_2771.jpg I need another project
> like another hole in the head. Maybe, I shouldn't tell you, but the
> bleeding heart liberal SMOG wackos pay the junkman a thousand bucks to
> give the owner of a V8 to break it, at least down here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
> >
> > . A blast from the past. I took a BMW powered buggy there in the
mid-70s. I
> > never got into the Glamis thing too much, the desert was a lot more
> > interesting
> >
> > --
> > Stupendous Man,
> > Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
I'll bet the owner doesn't get much of it. I heard that a lot of the
recycled vehicles are sold to Mexico too, where they aren't so picky about
what they drive. It used to be about transportation. Now I don't know what
it is about. After paying thirty bucks for half a tank today, I don't much
fancy a V8, but I figure if others want to drive them that is OK by me.
Still have the Suburban though. Got to have something that will keep a
stack of drywall out of the rain.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404F780.4C4515FE@***.net...
> Yes, most of my wheeling is now from County line Road, Ocotillo
> Wells, CA with my Son: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html And
> Son-in-law: http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html It's sixties miles
> closer, and we can get further away from the crazies:
> http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...ksgiving00.cfm
> Your friend sell his '72 Wagoneer, yet?
> http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/IMG_2771.jpg I need another project
> like another hole in the head. Maybe, I shouldn't tell you, but the
> bleeding heart liberal SMOG wackos pay the junkman a thousand bucks to
> give the owner of a V8 to break it, at least down here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
> >
> > . A blast from the past. I took a BMW powered buggy there in the
mid-70s. I
> > never got into the Glamis thing too much, the desert was a lot more
> > interesting
> >
> > --
> > Stupendous Man,
> > Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
02-28-2006, 09:50 PM
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
Bill, If the SMOG wackos give the junkman a thousand bucks to recycle a V8,
I'll bet the owner doesn't get much of it. I heard that a lot of the
recycled vehicles are sold to Mexico too, where they aren't so picky about
what they drive. It used to be about transportation. Now I don't know what
it is about. After paying thirty bucks for half a tank today, I don't much
fancy a V8, but I figure if others want to drive them that is OK by me.
Still have the Suburban though. Got to have something that will keep a
stack of drywall out of the rain.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404F780.4C4515FE@***.net...
> Yes, most of my wheeling is now from County line Road, Ocotillo
> Wells, CA with my Son: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html And
> Son-in-law: http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html It's sixties miles
> closer, and we can get further away from the crazies:
> http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...ksgiving00.cfm
> Your friend sell his '72 Wagoneer, yet?
> http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/IMG_2771.jpg I need another project
> like another hole in the head. Maybe, I shouldn't tell you, but the
> bleeding heart liberal SMOG wackos pay the junkman a thousand bucks to
> give the owner of a V8 to break it, at least down here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
> >
> > . A blast from the past. I took a BMW powered buggy there in the
mid-70s. I
> > never got into the Glamis thing too much, the desert was a lot more
> > interesting
> >
> > --
> > Stupendous Man,
> > Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
I'll bet the owner doesn't get much of it. I heard that a lot of the
recycled vehicles are sold to Mexico too, where they aren't so picky about
what they drive. It used to be about transportation. Now I don't know what
it is about. After paying thirty bucks for half a tank today, I don't much
fancy a V8, but I figure if others want to drive them that is OK by me.
Still have the Suburban though. Got to have something that will keep a
stack of drywall out of the rain.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404F780.4C4515FE@***.net...
> Yes, most of my wheeling is now from County line Road, Ocotillo
> Wells, CA with my Son: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html And
> Son-in-law: http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html It's sixties miles
> closer, and we can get further away from the crazies:
> http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...ksgiving00.cfm
> Your friend sell his '72 Wagoneer, yet?
> http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/IMG_2771.jpg I need another project
> like another hole in the head. Maybe, I shouldn't tell you, but the
> bleeding heart liberal SMOG wackos pay the junkman a thousand bucks to
> give the owner of a V8 to break it, at least down here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
> >
> > . A blast from the past. I took a BMW powered buggy there in the
mid-70s. I
> > never got into the Glamis thing too much, the desert was a lot more
> > interesting
> >
> > --
> > Stupendous Man,
> > Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
02-28-2006, 09:50 PM
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Re: anybody built theier own CJ frame?
Bill, If the SMOG wackos give the junkman a thousand bucks to recycle a V8,
I'll bet the owner doesn't get much of it. I heard that a lot of the
recycled vehicles are sold to Mexico too, where they aren't so picky about
what they drive. It used to be about transportation. Now I don't know what
it is about. After paying thirty bucks for half a tank today, I don't much
fancy a V8, but I figure if others want to drive them that is OK by me.
Still have the Suburban though. Got to have something that will keep a
stack of drywall out of the rain.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404F780.4C4515FE@***.net...
> Yes, most of my wheeling is now from County line Road, Ocotillo
> Wells, CA with my Son: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html And
> Son-in-law: http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html It's sixties miles
> closer, and we can get further away from the crazies:
> http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...ksgiving00.cfm
> Your friend sell his '72 Wagoneer, yet?
> http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/IMG_2771.jpg I need another project
> like another hole in the head. Maybe, I shouldn't tell you, but the
> bleeding heart liberal SMOG wackos pay the junkman a thousand bucks to
> give the owner of a V8 to break it, at least down here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
> >
> > . A blast from the past. I took a BMW powered buggy there in the
mid-70s. I
> > never got into the Glamis thing too much, the desert was a lot more
> > interesting
> >
> > --
> > Stupendous Man,
> > Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
I'll bet the owner doesn't get much of it. I heard that a lot of the
recycled vehicles are sold to Mexico too, where they aren't so picky about
what they drive. It used to be about transportation. Now I don't know what
it is about. After paying thirty bucks for half a tank today, I don't much
fancy a V8, but I figure if others want to drive them that is OK by me.
Still have the Suburban though. Got to have something that will keep a
stack of drywall out of the rain.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4404F780.4C4515FE@***.net...
> Yes, most of my wheeling is now from County line Road, Ocotillo
> Wells, CA with my Son: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html And
> Son-in-law: http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html It's sixties miles
> closer, and we can get further away from the crazies:
> http://www.atving.com/atvconnection/...ksgiving00.cfm
> Your friend sell his '72 Wagoneer, yet?
> http://home.goldrush.com/obsoelyt/IMG_2771.jpg I need another project
> like another hole in the head. Maybe, I shouldn't tell you, but the
> bleeding heart liberal SMOG wackos pay the junkman a thousand bucks to
> give the owner of a V8 to break it, at least down here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Stupendous Man wrote:
> >
> > . A blast from the past. I took a BMW powered buggy there in the
mid-70s. I
> > never got into the Glamis thing too much, the desert was a lot more
> > interesting
> >
> > --
> > Stupendous Man,
> > Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty