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Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent afterthe fact?
actually it's not even close to gm's system which either uses a magnet in the
key cylinder or a resistor in the key it does trans might a frq. that must matcch a recorded one in the skim or skreem then it sends it over the bus and compoares vins between them all Jerry Newton wrote: > My take on this, after studying the schematics and operation of the system, > is that it must be dealer-installed, if that is even an option. I don't > know if it a factory-only option. There is a pigtail that the module will > plug into, then the PCM will need to be reprogrammed with software to make > it recognize the SKIM module and react accordingly. There isn't an easy way > to bypass this, such as unplugging the SKIM and jumping wires, as it relies > on a serial data bus for communication, and enables ignition with a password > between modules. Very similar to what GM has been using for years. > > Jerry > > "JELo" <jelo@nospammail.com> wrote in message > news:102fejhicfc3f8@corp.supernews.com... > > > I had the minor problem of a salesman who didn't know squat, never > > > read the owner's manual, and ultimately steered me away from getting > > > it because, as he said "extra keys will cost you hundreds of dollars." > > > Right. Too late crying over spilt milk now, but I want it added in. > > > Is there any way to buy it direct and either install it myself or have > > > a dealership do it. My stealership has lied too often, threatened not > > > to honor the warranty (that wasn't pretty), and has consistently > > > provided half-assed warranty repairs which break something else - so > > > I'd rather do it myself, and give someone else my business if it's > > > possible to buy it. > > > > My understanding is that it can be added but the engine > > computer has to be reprogrammed or replaced? to use the > > system. Somehow the engine computer 'talks' to the key > > and the codes must match or the computer shuts down > > the engine in something like two minutes. Some one else > > might know more on this. > > > > I can relate to having problems with the local dealer but > > I am not sure this is a DIY type project. JELo > > > > |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent afterthe fact?
actually it's not even close to gm's system which either uses a magnet in the
key cylinder or a resistor in the key it does trans might a frq. that must matcch a recorded one in the skim or skreem then it sends it over the bus and compoares vins between them all Jerry Newton wrote: > My take on this, after studying the schematics and operation of the system, > is that it must be dealer-installed, if that is even an option. I don't > know if it a factory-only option. There is a pigtail that the module will > plug into, then the PCM will need to be reprogrammed with software to make > it recognize the SKIM module and react accordingly. There isn't an easy way > to bypass this, such as unplugging the SKIM and jumping wires, as it relies > on a serial data bus for communication, and enables ignition with a password > between modules. Very similar to what GM has been using for years. > > Jerry > > "JELo" <jelo@nospammail.com> wrote in message > news:102fejhicfc3f8@corp.supernews.com... > > > I had the minor problem of a salesman who didn't know squat, never > > > read the owner's manual, and ultimately steered me away from getting > > > it because, as he said "extra keys will cost you hundreds of dollars." > > > Right. Too late crying over spilt milk now, but I want it added in. > > > Is there any way to buy it direct and either install it myself or have > > > a dealership do it. My stealership has lied too often, threatened not > > > to honor the warranty (that wasn't pretty), and has consistently > > > provided half-assed warranty repairs which break something else - so > > > I'd rather do it myself, and give someone else my business if it's > > > possible to buy it. > > > > My understanding is that it can be added but the engine > > computer has to be reprogrammed or replaced? to use the > > system. Somehow the engine computer 'talks' to the key > > and the codes must match or the computer shuts down > > the engine in something like two minutes. Some one else > > might know more on this. > > > > I can relate to having problems with the local dealer but > > I am not sure this is a DIY type project. JELo > > > > |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent afterthe fact?
actually it's not even close to gm's system which either uses a magnet in the
key cylinder or a resistor in the key it does trans might a frq. that must matcch a recorded one in the skim or skreem then it sends it over the bus and compoares vins between them all Jerry Newton wrote: > My take on this, after studying the schematics and operation of the system, > is that it must be dealer-installed, if that is even an option. I don't > know if it a factory-only option. There is a pigtail that the module will > plug into, then the PCM will need to be reprogrammed with software to make > it recognize the SKIM module and react accordingly. There isn't an easy way > to bypass this, such as unplugging the SKIM and jumping wires, as it relies > on a serial data bus for communication, and enables ignition with a password > between modules. Very similar to what GM has been using for years. > > Jerry > > "JELo" <jelo@nospammail.com> wrote in message > news:102fejhicfc3f8@corp.supernews.com... > > > I had the minor problem of a salesman who didn't know squat, never > > > read the owner's manual, and ultimately steered me away from getting > > > it because, as he said "extra keys will cost you hundreds of dollars." > > > Right. Too late crying over spilt milk now, but I want it added in. > > > Is there any way to buy it direct and either install it myself or have > > > a dealership do it. My stealership has lied too often, threatened not > > > to honor the warranty (that wasn't pretty), and has consistently > > > provided half-assed warranty repairs which break something else - so > > > I'd rather do it myself, and give someone else my business if it's > > > possible to buy it. > > > > My understanding is that it can be added but the engine > > computer has to be reprogrammed or replaced? to use the > > system. Somehow the engine computer 'talks' to the key > > and the codes must match or the computer shuts down > > the engine in something like two minutes. Some one else > > might know more on this. > > > > I can relate to having problems with the local dealer but > > I am not sure this is a DIY type project. JELo > > > > |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent after the fact?
What I did was to dealer add Electronic Vehicle Security (EVS) to the car
after I purchased it. This has the engine immobilizer as well as the balance of the alarm systems (doors, impact, et al). Total cost about $300. Look into it at your DC dealer, its tailored for the Jeep, Wrangler included. "Andrew" <andrewmuaddib@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8b5c891c.0402090533.aeeda59@posting.google.co m... > I had the minor problem of a salesman who didn't know squat, never > read the owner's manual, and ultimately steered me away from getting > it because, as he said "extra keys will cost you hundreds of dollars." > Right. Too late crying over spilt milk now, but I want it added in. > Is there any way to buy it direct and either install it myself or have > a dealership do it. My stealership has lied too often, threatened not > to honor the warranty (that wasn't pretty), and has consistently > provided half-assed warranty repairs which break something else - so > I'd rather do it myself, and give someone else my business if it's > possible to buy it. |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent after the fact?
What I did was to dealer add Electronic Vehicle Security (EVS) to the car
after I purchased it. This has the engine immobilizer as well as the balance of the alarm systems (doors, impact, et al). Total cost about $300. Look into it at your DC dealer, its tailored for the Jeep, Wrangler included. "Andrew" <andrewmuaddib@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8b5c891c.0402090533.aeeda59@posting.google.co m... > I had the minor problem of a salesman who didn't know squat, never > read the owner's manual, and ultimately steered me away from getting > it because, as he said "extra keys will cost you hundreds of dollars." > Right. Too late crying over spilt milk now, but I want it added in. > Is there any way to buy it direct and either install it myself or have > a dealership do it. My stealership has lied too often, threatened not > to honor the warranty (that wasn't pretty), and has consistently > provided half-assed warranty repairs which break something else - so > I'd rather do it myself, and give someone else my business if it's > possible to buy it. |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent after the fact?
What I did was to dealer add Electronic Vehicle Security (EVS) to the car
after I purchased it. This has the engine immobilizer as well as the balance of the alarm systems (doors, impact, et al). Total cost about $300. Look into it at your DC dealer, its tailored for the Jeep, Wrangler included. "Andrew" <andrewmuaddib@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8b5c891c.0402090533.aeeda59@posting.google.co m... > I had the minor problem of a salesman who didn't know squat, never > read the owner's manual, and ultimately steered me away from getting > it because, as he said "extra keys will cost you hundreds of dollars." > Right. Too late crying over spilt milk now, but I want it added in. > Is there any way to buy it direct and either install it myself or have > a dealership do it. My stealership has lied too often, threatened not > to honor the warranty (that wasn't pretty), and has consistently > provided half-assed warranty repairs which break something else - so > I'd rather do it myself, and give someone else my business if it's > possible to buy it. |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent afterthe fact?
Plus a couple of grand for a DRB III scanner tool to program it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2459477503 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mic canic wrote: > > it can be done if the vehicle has all the wiring for it and it might > involve getting a new pcm and bcm and trans module if you have them plus > the skreem module |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent afterthe fact?
Plus a couple of grand for a DRB III scanner tool to program it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2459477503 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mic canic wrote: > > it can be done if the vehicle has all the wiring for it and it might > involve getting a new pcm and bcm and trans module if you have them plus > the skreem module |
Re: Any way to add Sentry Key Engine Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent afterthe fact?
Plus a couple of grand for a DRB III scanner tool to program it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2459477503 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mic canic wrote: > > it can be done if the vehicle has all the wiring for it and it might > involve getting a new pcm and bcm and trans module if you have them plus > the skreem module |
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