Another charging question
11-26-2003, 07:48 PM
#1
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Another charging question
This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-26-2003, 08:25 PM
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Re: Another charging question
How did you start it up?
The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
a dead battery.
A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
a dead battery.
A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-26-2003, 08:25 PM
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Re: Another charging question
How did you start it up?
The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
a dead battery.
A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
a dead battery.
A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-26-2003, 08:25 PM
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Re: Another charging question
How did you start it up?
The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
a dead battery.
A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
a dead battery.
A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JimG wrote:
>
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-26-2003, 08:40 PM
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Re: Another charging question
Well I found this link and it says the alternator is not a charger.... wow!
So I am charging the batteries now and will test later.
http://www.thirskauto.net/Alternator.html
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
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> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
So I am charging the batteries now and will test later.
http://www.thirskauto.net/Alternator.html
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:5Rbxb.1100$ss2.607@news01.roc.ny...
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-26-2003, 08:40 PM
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Re: Another charging question
Well I found this link and it says the alternator is not a charger.... wow!
So I am charging the batteries now and will test later.
http://www.thirskauto.net/Alternator.html
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:5Rbxb.1100$ss2.607@news01.roc.ny...
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
So I am charging the batteries now and will test later.
http://www.thirskauto.net/Alternator.html
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:5Rbxb.1100$ss2.607@news01.roc.ny...
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-26-2003, 08:40 PM
#7
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Re: Another charging question
Well I found this link and it says the alternator is not a charger.... wow!
So I am charging the batteries now and will test later.
http://www.thirskauto.net/Alternator.html
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:5Rbxb.1100$ss2.607@news01.roc.ny...
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
So I am charging the batteries now and will test later.
http://www.thirskauto.net/Alternator.html
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:5Rbxb.1100$ss2.607@news01.roc.ny...
> This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-26-2003, 09:05 PM
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Re: Another charging question
Hi Mike,
I started it on the primary battery,,, it was about 11.8 V. The secondary
was at 9v (I am not sure about it's quality now). Once it started I
switched to both batteries. Do you think I damaged the new alternator? I
only ran it for about 3 minutes till I noticed the overheating.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC5527B.71697ADF@sympatico.ca...
> How did you start it up?
>
> The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
> old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
> a dead battery.
>
> A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
> bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
>
> That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
> dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> > putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> > have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> > batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> > two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
I started it on the primary battery,,, it was about 11.8 V. The secondary
was at 9v (I am not sure about it's quality now). Once it started I
switched to both batteries. Do you think I damaged the new alternator? I
only ran it for about 3 minutes till I noticed the overheating.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC5527B.71697ADF@sympatico.ca...
> How did you start it up?
>
> The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
> old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
> a dead battery.
>
> A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
> bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
>
> That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
> dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> > putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> > have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> > batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> > two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-26-2003, 09:05 PM
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Re: Another charging question
Hi Mike,
I started it on the primary battery,,, it was about 11.8 V. The secondary
was at 9v (I am not sure about it's quality now). Once it started I
switched to both batteries. Do you think I damaged the new alternator? I
only ran it for about 3 minutes till I noticed the overheating.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC5527B.71697ADF@sympatico.ca...
> How did you start it up?
>
> The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
> old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
> a dead battery.
>
> A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
> bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
>
> That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
> dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> > putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> > have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> > batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> > two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
I started it on the primary battery,,, it was about 11.8 V. The secondary
was at 9v (I am not sure about it's quality now). Once it started I
switched to both batteries. Do you think I damaged the new alternator? I
only ran it for about 3 minutes till I noticed the overheating.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC5527B.71697ADF@sympatico.ca...
> How did you start it up?
>
> The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
> old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
> a dead battery.
>
> A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
> bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
>
> That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
> dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> > putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> > have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> > batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> > two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-26-2003, 09:05 PM
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Re: Another charging question
Hi Mike,
I started it on the primary battery,,, it was about 11.8 V. The secondary
was at 9v (I am not sure about it's quality now). Once it started I
switched to both batteries. Do you think I damaged the new alternator? I
only ran it for about 3 minutes till I noticed the overheating.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC5527B.71697ADF@sympatico.ca...
> How did you start it up?
>
> The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
> old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
> a dead battery.
>
> A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
> bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
>
> That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
> dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> > putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> > have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> > batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> > two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
I started it on the primary battery,,, it was about 11.8 V. The secondary
was at 9v (I am not sure about it's quality now). Once it started I
switched to both batteries. Do you think I damaged the new alternator? I
only ran it for about 3 minutes till I noticed the overheating.
JimG
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC5527B.71697ADF@sympatico.ca...
> How did you start it up?
>
> The last alternator I bought and the 'big green' (maybe the name) one my
> old tenant bought both say the warranty is void if you start them up on
> a dead battery.
>
> A new alternator cannot take that amp surge until the brushes wear in a
> bit, they just arc out all to crap. Arcing out means heat....
>
> That is why some shops refuse to put a new alternator in with an old or
> dead battery. The battery needs a charge to break in an alternator.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > This week my batteries went dead. The alternator was not charging, only
> > putting out about 12V. So I put a new alternator in this evening, and I
> > have charge voltage, 13.8V, but the alternator is way overheating. Now
the
> > batteries are low, but I would think it should not overheat. I isolated
the
> > two batteries and it still gets too hot. What might cause this?
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries