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Will Honea wrote:
>> >Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>> >in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
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>> our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
>> here Thank you John
>
>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>point you to someone elase.
>
I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
a call. Thank you your info is a great help John

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Will Honea wrote:
>> >Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>> >in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
>> here Thank you John
>
>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>point you to someone elase.
>
I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
a call. Thank you your info is a great help John

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Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I will do all I can to keep this car out of the junk yard. I would not
>> > trade it for ANY newer car. I was looking to do most of the work
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>> depression hits and we have millions of starving yuppies that will
>> change, but for now....
>
>Bret,
>
>Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad. ^)
>
>Johnny,
>
>You can certainly rebuild that 232 yourself, with the help from some old
>Motor's Manuals (best brand of repair manual in my opinion). A 304 swap is
>doable for an amateur, but for a first-time job, with the 304 as old a
>design as the 232, I just don't know whether it is a good idea.
>
>Earle

I know the 232 is a great engine and I know dropping an engine of the same
age in may be just looking for more trouble but maybe it will give this old
car a little kick in the a*@ like putting a pacemaker in a 75 year old.

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Johnny U via CarKB.com

Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I will do all I can to keep this car out of the junk yard. I would not
>> > trade it for ANY newer car. I was looking to do most of the work
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> depression hits and we have millions of starving yuppies that will
>> change, but for now....
>
>Bret,
>
>Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad. ^)
>
>Johnny,
>
>You can certainly rebuild that 232 yourself, with the help from some old
>Motor's Manuals (best brand of repair manual in my opinion). A 304 swap is
>doable for an amateur, but for a first-time job, with the 304 as old a
>design as the 232, I just don't know whether it is a good idea.
>
>Earle

I know the 232 is a great engine and I know dropping an engine of the same
age in may be just looking for more trouble but maybe it will give this old
car a little kick in the a*@ like putting a pacemaker in a 75 year old.

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Johnny U via CarKB.com

Earle Horton wrote:
>> > I will do all I can to keep this car out of the junk yard. I would not
>> > trade it for ANY newer car. I was looking to do most of the work
>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> depression hits and we have millions of starving yuppies that will
>> change, but for now....
>
>Bret,
>
>Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad. ^)
>
>Johnny,
>
>You can certainly rebuild that 232 yourself, with the help from some old
>Motor's Manuals (best brand of repair manual in my opinion). A 304 swap is
>doable for an amateur, but for a first-time job, with the 304 as old a
>design as the 232, I just don't know whether it is a good idea.
>
>Earle

I know the 232 is a great engine and I know dropping an engine of the same
age in may be just looking for more trouble but maybe it will give this old
car a little kick in the a*@ like putting a pacemaker in a 75 year old.

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Johnny U via CarKB.com

Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> ---snippy---
>> >> > Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about
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>> receipts on work that has been done in the past 3 years with little
>> or no change. Again thanks guys I appreciate any suggestions John
>
>I can understand how you feel, but a 304 is going to be more of the same.
>If local people don't want to work on a 1976 Sportabout with a 232, they
>won't want to work on it any more, after it has a 304 in it. This kind of
>work is real expensive when you take it to a commercial mechanic. If you
>thought the carburetor was expensive, wait until you get the bill for
>transplanting a V8 into a vehicle, that left the factory with a 6 cylinder
>in it!
>
>A car this old, if you don't have a mechanic who is downright enthusiastic
>about working on it, or if you aren't prepared to do the work yourself, you
>really have little chance of keeping it going for much longer. It gets more
>and more expensive, to get less and less fixed. Finally, most people give
>up, trade the car in for $200, and watch it being taken on a flatbed to the
>scrap yard. That's what happened with my 1960 Rambler American
>Station Wagon. C'est la vie.
>
>Earle

I also found that more mechanic's are more willing to work on an older 8 then
an old 6 most of the time. Don't know why the 6 is such an easy engine to
work with. it does not fight back so hard. Looks like I am trying to talk
myself into keeping the 6

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Johnny U via CarKB.com

Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> ---snippy---
>> >> > Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about
>[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>> receipts on work that has been done in the past 3 years with little
>> or no change. Again thanks guys I appreciate any suggestions John
>
>I can understand how you feel, but a 304 is going to be more of the same.
>If local people don't want to work on a 1976 Sportabout with a 232, they
>won't want to work on it any more, after it has a 304 in it. This kind of
>work is real expensive when you take it to a commercial mechanic. If you
>thought the carburetor was expensive, wait until you get the bill for
>transplanting a V8 into a vehicle, that left the factory with a 6 cylinder
>in it!
>
>A car this old, if you don't have a mechanic who is downright enthusiastic
>about working on it, or if you aren't prepared to do the work yourself, you
>really have little chance of keeping it going for much longer. It gets more
>and more expensive, to get less and less fixed. Finally, most people give
>up, trade the car in for $200, and watch it being taken on a flatbed to the
>scrap yard. That's what happened with my 1960 Rambler American
>Station Wagon. C'est la vie.
>
>Earle

I also found that more mechanic's are more willing to work on an older 8 then
an old 6 most of the time. Don't know why the 6 is such an easy engine to
work with. it does not fight back so hard. Looks like I am trying to talk
myself into keeping the 6

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Johnny U via CarKB.com

Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> ---snippy---
>> >> > Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about
>[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>> receipts on work that has been done in the past 3 years with little
>> or no change. Again thanks guys I appreciate any suggestions John
>
>I can understand how you feel, but a 304 is going to be more of the same.
>If local people don't want to work on a 1976 Sportabout with a 232, they
>won't want to work on it any more, after it has a 304 in it. This kind of
>work is real expensive when you take it to a commercial mechanic. If you
>thought the carburetor was expensive, wait until you get the bill for
>transplanting a V8 into a vehicle, that left the factory with a 6 cylinder
>in it!
>
>A car this old, if you don't have a mechanic who is downright enthusiastic
>about working on it, or if you aren't prepared to do the work yourself, you
>really have little chance of keeping it going for much longer. It gets more
>and more expensive, to get less and less fixed. Finally, most people give
>up, trade the car in for $200, and watch it being taken on a flatbed to the
>scrap yard. That's what happened with my 1960 Rambler American
>Station Wagon. C'est la vie.
>
>Earle

I also found that more mechanic's are more willing to work on an older 8 then
an old 6 most of the time. Don't know why the 6 is such an easy engine to
work with. it does not fight back so hard. Looks like I am trying to talk
myself into keeping the 6

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Mike Romain

"Johnny U via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > I will do all I can to keep this car out of the junk yard. I would not
> >> > trade it for ANY newer car. I was looking to do most of the work
> >[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> >> depression hits and we have millions of starving yuppies that will
> >> change, but for now....
> >
> >Bret,
> >
> >Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad. ^)
> >
> >Johnny,
> >
> >You can certainly rebuild that 232 yourself, with the help from some old
> >Motor's Manuals (best brand of repair manual in my opinion). A 304 swap is
> >doable for an amateur, but for a first-time job, with the 304 as old a
> >design as the 232, I just don't know whether it is a good idea.
> >
> >Earle
>
> I know the 232 is a great engine and I know dropping an engine of the same
> age in may be just looking for more trouble but maybe it will give this old
> car a little kick in the a*@ like putting a pacemaker in a 75 year old.
>
> --

Just FYI, Chrysler here in Canada offer 258 short blocks for about
$1200.00 or they did a few years back when I checked. Then you would
just need a valve job on the head. Maybe worth a phone call to check
with them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

"Johnny U via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > I will do all I can to keep this car out of the junk yard. I would not
> >> > trade it for ANY newer car. I was looking to do most of the work
> >[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> >> depression hits and we have millions of starving yuppies that will
> >> change, but for now....
> >
> >Bret,
> >
> >Please don't agree with me. It makes me look bad. ^)
> >
> >Johnny,
> >
> >You can certainly rebuild that 232 yourself, with the help from some old
> >Motor's Manuals (best brand of repair manual in my opinion). A 304 swap is
> >doable for an amateur, but for a first-time job, with the 304 as old a
> >design as the 232, I just don't know whether it is a good idea.
> >
> >Earle
>
> I know the 232 is a great engine and I know dropping an engine of the same
> age in may be just looking for more trouble but maybe it will give this old
> car a little kick in the a*@ like putting a pacemaker in a 75 year old.
>
> --

Just FYI, Chrysler here in Canada offer 258 short blocks for about
$1200.00 or they did a few years back when I checked. Then you would
just need a valve job on the head. Maybe worth a phone call to check
with them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)