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Earle Horton 05-24-2006 10:37 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)

A 304 will "bolt right in with no problem", but then you have to worry about
an exhaust system, motor mounts (maybe), linkage to the carburetor, and
making all the accessories fit. Add to that the fact that the cheapest
place I can find gas today is $2.709 a gallon, and the 304 swap becomes less
of a no-brainer. I vote for rebuilding the 232. If you are on a budget you
can hone, re-ring, and replace the bearing inserts for less than $700, plus
all the other doodads you will need to make a 304 really fit.

Earle

"Johnny U" <u22221@uwe> wrote in message news:60bfbf2176856@uwe...
> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a

232
> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our
> friend can't or won't take their newer trucks or suv's and it has a larger
> cargo space then most of their suv's. The engine is getting tired and I

think
> its time to replace it. I have been told the 304 will bolt in with no

problem
> and I can get ! from a local junk yard for around $700.00 running. Now a
> friend of ours suggested we put in a Chevy 350 he says its an easier

engine
> to find parts for and to work-on and is a tougher engine and has a bit

more
> power. How much more work and money would I be getting myself into if I

were
> to put a 350 in the Hornet? I will be doing the work myself and have never
> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time




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Earle Horton 05-24-2006 10:37 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)

A 304 will "bolt right in with no problem", but then you have to worry about
an exhaust system, motor mounts (maybe), linkage to the carburetor, and
making all the accessories fit. Add to that the fact that the cheapest
place I can find gas today is $2.709 a gallon, and the 304 swap becomes less
of a no-brainer. I vote for rebuilding the 232. If you are on a budget you
can hone, re-ring, and replace the bearing inserts for less than $700, plus
all the other doodads you will need to make a 304 really fit.

Earle

"Johnny U" <u22221@uwe> wrote in message news:60bfbf2176856@uwe...
> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a

232
> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our
> friend can't or won't take their newer trucks or suv's and it has a larger
> cargo space then most of their suv's. The engine is getting tired and I

think
> its time to replace it. I have been told the 304 will bolt in with no

problem
> and I can get ! from a local junk yard for around $700.00 running. Now a
> friend of ours suggested we put in a Chevy 350 he says its an easier

engine
> to find parts for and to work-on and is a tougher engine and has a bit

more
> power. How much more work and money would I be getting myself into if I

were
> to put a 350 in the Hornet? I will be doing the work myself and have never
> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time




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Earle Horton 05-24-2006 10:37 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)

A 304 will "bolt right in with no problem", but then you have to worry about
an exhaust system, motor mounts (maybe), linkage to the carburetor, and
making all the accessories fit. Add to that the fact that the cheapest
place I can find gas today is $2.709 a gallon, and the 304 swap becomes less
of a no-brainer. I vote for rebuilding the 232. If you are on a budget you
can hone, re-ring, and replace the bearing inserts for less than $700, plus
all the other doodads you will need to make a 304 really fit.

Earle

"Johnny U" <u22221@uwe> wrote in message news:60bfbf2176856@uwe...
> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a

232
> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our
> friend can't or won't take their newer trucks or suv's and it has a larger
> cargo space then most of their suv's. The engine is getting tired and I

think
> its time to replace it. I have been told the 304 will bolt in with no

problem
> and I can get ! from a local junk yard for around $700.00 running. Now a
> friend of ours suggested we put in a Chevy 350 he says its an easier

engine
> to find parts for and to work-on and is a tougher engine and has a bit

more
> power. How much more work and money would I be getting myself into if I

were
> to put a 350 in the Hornet? I will be doing the work myself and have never
> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time




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Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:42 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Mike Romain wrote:
>The GM swap is very expensive for the adapters to make things fit.
>
>I would go AMC all the way. Even a 258 with the 2 bbl will work.
>
>$700.00 is a 'lot' for an old used engine, you can get yours rebuilt for
>about $1200.00 or way less if you do the work.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a 232
>> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our

>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

Thanks Mike yes $700.00 sounds like alot for an ''old' 304 but trying to find
a rebuilt one anywhere around here is well, I would have better luck finding
the abominable snowman.again thanks for your time and the photos

Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:42 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Mike Romain wrote:
>The GM swap is very expensive for the adapters to make things fit.
>
>I would go AMC all the way. Even a 258 with the 2 bbl will work.
>
>$700.00 is a 'lot' for an old used engine, you can get yours rebuilt for
>about $1200.00 or way less if you do the work.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a 232
>> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our

>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

Thanks Mike yes $700.00 sounds like alot for an ''old' 304 but trying to find
a rebuilt one anywhere around here is well, I would have better luck finding
the abominable snowman.again thanks for your time and the photos

Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:42 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Mike Romain wrote:
>The GM swap is very expensive for the adapters to make things fit.
>
>I would go AMC all the way. Even a 258 with the 2 bbl will work.
>
>$700.00 is a 'lot' for an old used engine, you can get yours rebuilt for
>about $1200.00 or way less if you do the work.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a 232
>> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our

>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

Thanks Mike yes $700.00 sounds like alot for an ''old' 304 but trying to find
a rebuilt one anywhere around here is well, I would have better luck finding
the abominable snowman.again thanks for your time and the photos

Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:55 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Earle Horton wrote:
>Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)
>
>A 304 will "bolt right in with no problem", but then you have to worry about
>an exhaust system, motor mounts (maybe), linkage to the carburetor, and
>making all the accessories fit. Add to that the fact that the cheapest
>place I can find gas today is $2.709 a gallon, and the 304 swap becomes less
>of a no-brainer. I vote for rebuilding the 232. If you are on a budget you
>can hone, re-ring, and replace the bearing inserts for less than $700, plus
>all the other doodads you will need to make a 304 really fit.
>
>Earle
>
>> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a 232
>> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our

>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about rebuilding the
232 the car really can't get out of its own way with that engine. We live in
Colorado and do alot of camping in the high country its also my daily driver.
I was hoping to get a little more power out of it with the 304. We are also
planning on lifting the car a-bit. Like I said we love the car and really
would not trade it. The car was hit by a 99 Ford F-250 the truck had to be
towed away I got a little blue paint on the rear pumper. Again thatnk guys
your input is great and it looks like you all seem to like the AMC

Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:55 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Earle Horton wrote:
>Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)
>
>A 304 will "bolt right in with no problem", but then you have to worry about
>an exhaust system, motor mounts (maybe), linkage to the carburetor, and
>making all the accessories fit. Add to that the fact that the cheapest
>place I can find gas today is $2.709 a gallon, and the 304 swap becomes less
>of a no-brainer. I vote for rebuilding the 232. If you are on a budget you
>can hone, re-ring, and replace the bearing inserts for less than $700, plus
>all the other doodads you will need to make a 304 really fit.
>
>Earle
>
>> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a 232
>> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our

>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about rebuilding the
232 the car really can't get out of its own way with that engine. We live in
Colorado and do alot of camping in the high country its also my daily driver.
I was hoping to get a little more power out of it with the 304. We are also
planning on lifting the car a-bit. Like I said we love the car and really
would not trade it. The car was hit by a 99 Ford F-250 the truck had to be
towed away I got a little blue paint on the rear pumper. Again thatnk guys
your input is great and it looks like you all seem to like the AMC

Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:55 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Earle Horton wrote:
>Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)
>
>A 304 will "bolt right in with no problem", but then you have to worry about
>an exhaust system, motor mounts (maybe), linkage to the carburetor, and
>making all the accessories fit. Add to that the fact that the cheapest
>place I can find gas today is $2.709 a gallon, and the 304 swap becomes less
>of a no-brainer. I vote for rebuilding the 232. If you are on a budget you
>can hone, re-ring, and replace the bearing inserts for less than $700, plus
>all the other doodads you will need to make a 304 really fit.
>
>Earle
>
>> Ok guys don't laugh to loud. I have a 1976 AMC Hornet Sportabout with a 232
>> the car is a tank we love use it for camping mostly. We take it places our

>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about rebuilding the
232 the car really can't get out of its own way with that engine. We live in
Colorado and do alot of camping in the high country its also my daily driver.
I was hoping to get a little more power out of it with the 304. We are also
planning on lifting the car a-bit. Like I said we love the car and really
would not trade it. The car was hit by a 99 Ford F-250 the truck had to be
towed away I got a little blue paint on the rear pumper. Again thatnk guys
your input is great and it looks like you all seem to like the AMC

Johnny U 05-24-2006 10:59 PM

Re: AMC engine swap
 
Johnny U wrote:
>>Did I see you at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head last July? ;^)
>>

>[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>> done anything like this before. Any ideas or suggestions (no we are not
>>> junking the car) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time

>Ok it looks like the 350 is out but I am still not sure about rebuilding the
>232 the car really can't get out of its own way with that engine. We live in
>Colorado and do alot of camping in the high country its also my daily driver.
>I was hoping to get a little more power out of it with the 304. We are also
>planning on lifting the car a-bit. Like I said we love the car and really
>would not trade it. The car was hit by a 99 Ford F-250 the truck had to be
>towed away I got a little blue paint on the rear pumper. Again thatnk guys
>your input is great and it looks like you all seem to like the AMC

No that was not me at Middle Fork Cimarron trail head I was in Miami all last
year. Again thanks for the info it is a great help


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