AMC engine swap
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Re: AMC engine swap
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
>I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>little bugger would MOVE!
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>>>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>>>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
>> a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
Yea thats what I keep hearing and one of the reasons I am even thinking about
the swap. A Gremlin with a 4.0 I would not want to be in front of you in the
fast lane.
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>Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
>I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>little bugger would MOVE!
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>>>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>>>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
>> a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
Yea thats what I keep hearing and one of the reasons I am even thinking about
the swap. A Gremlin with a 4.0 I would not want to be in front of you in the
fast lane.
--
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Re: AMC engine swap
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
>I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>little bugger would MOVE!
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>>>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>>>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
>> a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
Yea thats what I keep hearing and one of the reasons I am even thinking about
the swap. A Gremlin with a 4.0 I would not want to be in front of you in the
fast lane.
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
>I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>little bugger would MOVE!
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>>>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>>>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
>> a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
Yea thats what I keep hearing and one of the reasons I am even thinking about
the swap. A Gremlin with a 4.0 I would not want to be in front of you in the
fast lane.
--
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Re: AMC engine swap
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
>I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>little bugger would MOVE!
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>>>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>>>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
>> a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
Yea thats what I keep hearing and one of the reasons I am even thinking about
the swap. A Gremlin with a 4.0 I would not want to be in front of you in the
fast lane.
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
>I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>little bugger would MOVE!
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>>>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
>>>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
>> a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
Yea thats what I keep hearing and one of the reasons I am even thinking about
the swap. A Gremlin with a 4.0 I would not want to be in front of you in the
fast lane.
--
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Re: AMC engine swap
Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> little bugger would MOVE!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> > Will Honea wrote:
> >
> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
> >>
> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >>
> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
> >>>here Thank you John
> >>
> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >>point you to someone elase.
> >>
> >
> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >
markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> little bugger would MOVE!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> > Will Honea wrote:
> >
> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
> >>
> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >>
> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
> >>>here Thank you John
> >>
> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >>point you to someone elase.
> >>
> >
> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >
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Re: AMC engine swap
Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> little bugger would MOVE!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> > Will Honea wrote:
> >
> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
> >>
> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >>
> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
> >>>here Thank you John
> >>
> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >>point you to someone elase.
> >>
> >
> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >
markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> little bugger would MOVE!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> > Will Honea wrote:
> >
> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
> >>
> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >>
> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
> >>>here Thank you John
> >>
> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >>point you to someone elase.
> >>
> >
> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >
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Re: AMC engine swap
Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> little bugger would MOVE!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> > Will Honea wrote:
> >
> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
> >>
> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >>
> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
> >>>here Thank you John
> >>
> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >>point you to someone elase.
> >>
> >
> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >
markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>
> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> little bugger would MOVE!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> > Will Honea wrote:
> >
> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler club
> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they have
> >>
> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >>
> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more answers
> >>>here Thank you John
> >>
> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >>point you to someone elase.
> >>
> >
> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed down
> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an eye out
> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will give him
> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >
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Re: AMC engine swap
Back-in-the-day the AMC 232 probably put out 120 'old' horsepower.
The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
289-190hp, 302-210hp)
The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
it are readily available..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>>
>> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>> little bugger would MOVE!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
>> > Will Honea wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
>> >>>>club
>> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
>> >>>>have
>> >>
>> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >>
>> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
>> >>>answers
>> >>>here Thank you John
>> >>
>> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>> >>point you to someone elase.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
>> > down
>> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
>> > eye out
>> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
>> > give him
>> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
>> >
The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
289-190hp, 302-210hp)
The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
it are readily available..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>>
>> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>> little bugger would MOVE!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
>> > Will Honea wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
>> >>>>club
>> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
>> >>>>have
>> >>
>> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >>
>> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
>> >>>answers
>> >>>here Thank you John
>> >>
>> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>> >>point you to someone elase.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
>> > down
>> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
>> > eye out
>> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
>> > give him
>> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
>> >
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Re: AMC engine swap
Back-in-the-day the AMC 232 probably put out 120 'old' horsepower.
The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
289-190hp, 302-210hp)
The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
it are readily available..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>>
>> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>> little bugger would MOVE!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
>> > Will Honea wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
>> >>>>club
>> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
>> >>>>have
>> >>
>> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >>
>> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
>> >>>answers
>> >>>here Thank you John
>> >>
>> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>> >>point you to someone elase.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
>> > down
>> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
>> > eye out
>> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
>> > give him
>> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
>> >
The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
289-190hp, 302-210hp)
The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
it are readily available..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>>
>> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>> little bugger would MOVE!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
>> > Will Honea wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
>> >>>>club
>> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
>> >>>>have
>> >>
>> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >>
>> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
>> >>>answers
>> >>>here Thank you John
>> >>
>> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>> >>point you to someone elase.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
>> > down
>> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
>> > eye out
>> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
>> > give him
>> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
>> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: AMC engine swap
Back-in-the-day the AMC 232 probably put out 120 'old' horsepower.
The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
289-190hp, 302-210hp)
The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
it are readily available..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>>
>> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>> little bugger would MOVE!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
>> > Will Honea wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
>> >>>>club
>> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
>> >>>>have
>> >>
>> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >>
>> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
>> >>>answers
>> >>>here Thank you John
>> >>
>> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>> >>point you to someone elase.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
>> > down
>> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
>> > eye out
>> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
>> > give him
>> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
>> >
The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
289-190hp, 302-210hp)
The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
it are readily available..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
>> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
>>
>> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
>> little bugger would MOVE!
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt
>>
>> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
>> > Will Honea wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
>> >>>>club
>> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
>> >>>>have
>> >>
>> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >>
>> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
>> >>>answers
>> >>>here Thank you John
>> >>
>> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
>> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
>> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
>> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
>> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
>> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
>> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
>> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
>> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
>> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
>> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
>> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
>> >>point you to someone elase.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
>> > down
>> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
>> > eye out
>> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
>> > give him
>> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
>> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: AMC engine swap
They had a 401 that hauled *** didn't they? That is the transplant I
was thinking about. The Javelin or AMX had it too. If you are going to
go V8, well.... The AMC V8's were all the same block I think. The 360
was a pretty common one for the old big Jeeps too I think.
Now that 401 would sure make a sleeper.....
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Back-in-the-day the AMC 232 probably put out 120 'old' horsepower.
>
> The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
> 289-190hp, 302-210hp)
>
> The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
> about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
>
> The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
> they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
>
> So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
> and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
> it are readily available..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> > Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> > markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> > the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> > overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> >>
> >> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> >> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
> >>
> >> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> >> little bugger would MOVE!
> >>
> >> Jeff DeWitt
> >>
> >> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> >> > Will Honea wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
> >> >>>>club
> >> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
> >> >>>>have
> >> >>
> >> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >> >>
> >> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
> >> >>>answers
> >> >>>here Thank you John
> >> >>
> >> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >> >>point you to someone elase.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
> >> > down
> >> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
> >> > eye out
> >> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
> >> > give him
> >> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >> >
was thinking about. The Javelin or AMX had it too. If you are going to
go V8, well.... The AMC V8's were all the same block I think. The 360
was a pretty common one for the old big Jeeps too I think.
Now that 401 would sure make a sleeper.....
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Back-in-the-day the AMC 232 probably put out 120 'old' horsepower.
>
> The small V-8s of that era put out about 200 'old' horsepower.(i.e.
> 289-190hp, 302-210hp)
>
> The 4 liter puts put 190 'new' horsepower which is probably equivalent to
> about .....225-230 'old' horsepower.
>
> The autobox is probably a rebadged Dodge Torque-Flight which if I recall
> they called the Torque-Command and will easily take the increased power.
>
> So basically you can get double the output with a direct bolt in application
> and as the 4 liter was in production for 20 years the engine and parts for
> it are readily available..
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4478536C.A6874AC0@sympatico.ca...
> > Back in the day, the RCMP had a V8 Gremlin and a V8 Camaro in full
> > markings, lights, etc. as highway chase cars. I saw the two of them hit
> > the start of the highway at full throttle. I was standing on an
> > overpass watching. The Gremlin kicked the Camaro's ***.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> >>
> >> Johnny, keep in mind the Jeep 4.0 is an updated version of your 232 and
> >> ought to pretty much bolt right in.
> >>
> >> I've long thought a fun project would be a Gremlin X with a Jeep 4.0,
> >> little bugger would MOVE!
> >>
> >> Jeff DeWitt
> >>
> >> Johnny U via CarKB.com wrote:
> >> > Will Honea wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>>Johnny, have you checked to see if there is an active AMC/Rambler
> >> >>>>club
> >> >>>>in your area? Those are the folks you need to hook up with, they
> >> >>>>have
> >> >>
> >> >>[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >> >>
> >> >>>our friends SUV's.You guys have been great here I have gotten more
> >> >>>answers
> >> >>>here Thank you John
> >> >>
> >> >>Check with the U-Pull-it yard down on 87 just North of Academy -
> >> >>between Academy and I-25. Last time I was down there they had at
> >> >>least 15 6-cylinder XJs (Jeep Cherokee) all with the engine still in
> >> >>them and all the electronices to move the FI 4.0 liter engines
> >> >>straight into your body. Even if you don't want to go tha route they
> >> >>can probably point you to a decent mechanic who might work on yours
> >> >>for you. You might also check with Harry Wichman at #1 Garage on
> >> >>Willamette just west of Platte. He used to do a lot of that kind of
> >> >>stuff when he was running stockers in the Hill Climb but I don't know
> >> >>whether he's still into it or not. He's honest enough to tell you
> >> >>straight out as evidenced by the amount of business he does even in
> >> >>that hidden location. If he is out of that business, he can probably
> >> >>point you to someone elase.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I know one U-pull yard out east that had quite a-few AMC was closed
> >> > down
> >> > by the EPA a few years back. I do have a couple of places keeping an
> >> > eye out
> >> > for me. The No 1 Garage is still around and not far from here I will
> >> > give him
> >> > a call. Thank you your info is a great help John
> >> >